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  1. #76
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    Registered: Jun 2006
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzman View Post
    God, you all are such nerds.
    Nerds, on a website dedicated to a company that made video games? Is there nowhere left? Next they'll be taking over our library's and star trek conventions ...

  2. #77
    Taking a break
    Registered: Dec 2002
    Screw you guys, now I need to rewatch it.

  3. #78
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: they/them mayhem
    I just did, a couple weeks ago. I own the Quadrilogy box set.

  4. #79
    BR796164
    Registered: Dec 2000
    Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
    Do you people have earwax, or what? We have been here three hours. How many different ways do you want me to tell the same story?



    (I intend to buy the Quadrilogy set as well. Does it contain extended version of both Alien and Aliens, and possibly deleted scenes from Alien 3?)

  5. #80
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    Registered: Oct 2002
    Location: London / London / London
    On repetitive watching, Aliens is kinda stupid. Alien 4 is baffling. Alien and the extended Alien 3 are the only ones worth having. Plus running, context-less sci-fi quotes, what the fuck is wrong with you guys? Are you allergic to sex or something?

  6. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phatose View Post
    If it bleeds, we can kill it.
    Isn't that Predator?

  7. #82
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    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Landahn

    There.

    I. AM. BEOWULF!

    I'm here to kill your Mon-STAH!

  8. #83
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    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: Tatoine
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivian View Post
    Are you allergic to sex or something?
    heh thats really funny. main reason for sex-less boys is girls being allergic to sex. or something.

  9. #84
    BR796164
    Registered: Dec 2000
    Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
    Vivian, baby... Let the guys do their thing!

    (I'm allergic to Crysis.)

  10. #85
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    Registered: Apr 2007
    Location: Land of the bar stewards
    Quote Originally Posted by Vivian View Post
    what the fuck is wrong with you guys? Are you allergic to sex or something?
    Hey, I sure wouldn't mind getting me some more of that Arcturian poontang! Remember that time?

  11. #86
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    Registered: Oct 2002
    Location: London / London / London
    Ok, heres a question: Which is worse, James Cameron dialogue or Interpol lyrics?

  12. #87
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: they/them mayhem
    Quote Originally Posted by BR796164 View Post
    (I intend to buy the Quadrilogy set as well. Does it contain extended version of both Alien and Aliens, and possibly deleted scenes from Alien 3?)
    Yup, yup, and yup. Theatrical versions of all 4 movies, plus extended versions of each. The director's cut of Alien 3 is really quite different from the original.

    Also, Vivian have you been taking Koki pills?

  13. #88
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    Registered: Apr 2002
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    Quote Originally Posted by dethtoll View Post
    The director's cut of Alien 3 is really quite different from the original.
    Yeah, but is it better and - more importantly - good enough to be a proper movie now? I quite liked a lot of the ideas and the atmosphere in Alien 3, but you could definitely see that the movie was 'broken'. It just required a tad more coherence and for some ideas to be properly fleshed out. Does the new cut do that?

    Resurrection, on the other hand, was complete dogshit, imo.

  14. #89
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: they/them mayhem
    I would say it's better. It provides quite a bit more character development and fleshes out further some ideas. There are a few things that are quite different, as well- the alien host is an ox, rather than a dog.

    Resurrection is an abortion. I don't get why people talk so much shit about Alien versus Predator ruining the Aliens franchise when Alien Resurrection did it first. Thanks, Joss Whedon!

  15. #90
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    Registered: Apr 2007
    Location: Land of the bar stewards
    Quote Originally Posted by N'Al View Post
    Yeah, but is it better and - more importantly - good enough to be a proper movie now? I quite liked a lot of the ideas and the atmosphere in Alien 3, but you could definitely see that the movie was 'broken'. It just required a tad more coherence and for some ideas to be properly fleshed out. Does the new cut do that?

    Resurrection, on the other hand, was complete dogshit, imo.
    The story behind A3 is really quite sad. Quite a few of the actors recalled that the movie was on track to be great, until the suits decided to "rescue" it.

    I'm sure you know that already, tho.

  16. #91
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: they/them mayhem
    That's part of why critics have cut it a lot of slack in recent years, now that it's becoming apparent that the movie's development was quite troubled.

  17. #92
    Taking a break
    Registered: Dec 2002
    Quote Originally Posted by dethtoll View Post
    Also, Vivian have you been taking Koki pills?
    It's koki balls actually

  18. #93
    BR796164
    Registered: Dec 2000
    Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
    A3 is good in it's own different terms but most fans can't get over the fact that it's not just Aliens 2.0. It was a good decision not to follow the mold of Aliens (it had imitations later) and I praise Fincher for finishing his debut as good as he could, even with producers' interception. This guy deserves it for the trouble he's been through. If you realize that even William Gibson failed in making a decent script, go figure. I despised it when it came out, but meh, I was just a clueless 13 years old and fortunately later I learned to appreciate it's gloomy aesthetics. I also like Goldenthal's OST, so sad but uplifting as well.
    Last edited by Rogue Keeper; 5th Dec 2007 at 03:29.

  19. #94
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    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: they/them mayhem
    It was actually my first Alien movie (and that's what made me a fan... they fucking showed it on network TV!) In later years after I'd seen the other films it always struck me as a kind of throwback to the first movie. Not a bad thing to be, in my opinion.

  20. #95
    El Shagmeister
    Registered: Jul 2000
    Location: Under your fingernails.

    I'm probably a softie, but I still feel sad, and find it somewhat unfair, that
    spoiler:
    Newt, Hicks -and- Ripley had to die (plus Bishop's deactivation),
    after all the shit they lived through.

    Still, I guess how
    spoiler:
    Ripley died was a way of "getting over" her fear/trauma of the Aliens themselves.


    Well, a small comfort is that the DarkHorse comics go lol at the A3 ending and decided to continue things with the whole crew.

    spoiler:
    I'm pretty sure 99% of the pop here have seen A3, but I still decided to use STags, just in case

  21. #96
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    Registered: Sep 2007
    Aliens is my personal favorite. It was also the 1st R-Rated movie I saw in theaters. I was 12. Scared the SHIT out of me. I had to leave for a few minutes
    once and take a quick breather outside.

    Anyway, it will ALWAYS be my favorite Alien movie, no matter if/when they ever release any sequel(s). I am somewhat embarrassed to say so, but I have seen it 72 times, and almost know it word-for-word.

  22. #97
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    Registered: Apr 2007
    Location: Land of the bar stewards
    Quote Originally Posted by MrDuck View Post
    I'm probably a softie, but I still feel sad, and find it somewhat unfair, that
    spoiler:
    Newt, Hicks -and- Ripley had to die (plus Bishop's deactivation),
    after all the shit they lived through.
    It didn't really bother me that they died, but the casual way that they were dismissed did. I mean, weren't they were ejected for unspecified reasons, as far as I remember?

    And why wasn't Ripley ejected with them? It's been a while so I probably forgot something.

  23. #98
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: they/them mayhem
    Trying to think of the first R rated movie I ever saw in theaters... you'd think for a guy who doesn't get to go see movies very often this would be easy, but it's not.

    I very tentatively want to say Gladiator.

    First PG-13 movie, however, I can tell you right off was the original Jurassic Park.

    Quote Originally Posted by HybridVision View Post
    It didn't really bother me that they died, but the casual way that they were dismissed did. I mean, weren't they were ejected for unspecified reasons, as far as I remember?

    And why wasn't Ripley ejected with them? It's been a while so I probably forgot something.
    BZZZZZT

    The sleeping chamber they were all in caught fire and was summarily jettisoned from the Sulaco. Ripley was the only survivor when it crashed on Fiorina 161.

  24. #99
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    Registered: Jun 2000
    Location: Wellington, New Zealand
    Quote Originally Posted by dethtoll View Post
    BZZZZZT

    The sleeping chamber they were all in caught fire and was summarily jettisoned from the Sulaco. Ripley was the only survivor when it crashed on Fiorina 161.
    It also implies that the reason Ripley survived is because she had a face hugger on her feeding her oxygen whereas Newt drowned. Hicks was done in by the stanchion piercing his cryo-sleep capsule.

    That said Alien 3 still ranks third in my picking because it requires Ripley to be so stupid as to not check out the ship with a flamethrower after kicking the Queen off and then also messing with the established life-cycle of the Alien again. Huggers in an egg have never spontaneously decanted themselves to then go exploring.on the off chance a host is about. I also vehemently hated the swan dive shot towards the end of the film - pure cinematic cheese even as a I got what the subtext and point of the scene was. Just really badly done.

    Which is a shame as the film does definitely have atmosphere and style. The other thing that sabotaged it at the time of theatrical release was the early teaser trailers done for the film that strongly implied the story was going to about the Aliens finally reaching Earth. To not have that after building it up in the first place is just asking for fan outrage...

    I have the Alien Quadrilogy myself and have never got around to watching the directors cut of the third film. Given the discussion here I must drag it out and fix that...

    Still Alien was the best of the series for me. I just love what Ripley did both cinematicly and story wise in making it a gritty lived in science fiction universe instead of the pristine cleanliness that had been the norm up to that point.

  25. #100
    BR796164
    Registered: Dec 2000
    Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
    The death of Newt, Hicks and Bishop is cruel, since they were so sympathetic characters and had potential for more development. But the Alien universe is a cruel one. The A3 screenplay doesn't give audience much to hope for, it dumps the audience right into depression, dirt, despair. If the keywords of Alien were 'mysterious dread', the keywords for Aliens 'thrilling shock', then the keywords for A3 are 'dirty despair'. But hey, fans of Aliens have sea of expanded universe around their film, comic books, novels, computer games, so I think they were generously compensated. That said, I like Aliens enough, but not to the point that I'd like every Alien movie to look like Aliens. Aliens is a very 'standard' American sci-fi thriller, while in Alien and Alien 3 you feel that British influence of directors, setting, overal feeling of gothic horror, the way of storytelling. I have feeling that Europeans appreciate A3 more than Americans, well maybe I'm generalizing... However the decision to hand out Resurrection to an avantgarde French director was rather doubtful. I don't know what the keywords for Resurrection would be... sick bizarreness?

    It seems that Fox has decided to unoficially abandon the series, since they came with comic book pastiche Aliens vs. Predator. I'm sad that these two most dreadful alien races of late 20th century cinema have experienced this fall from grace and were reduced to childlike action toys, in proto-B flicks, with teenagers as the target audience in mind. A crossover which may look good in comic books and videogames, but on the film medium it's crap. But what we can do? The quality of Alien movies was degrading with each new installment, although good things can be found in every Alien movie. The Alien xenomorpf has been corrupted, debilitated. If there will be another Alien movie, it should be a REBOOT. Somebody serious, skilled and renown should take the stuff into his hands and redefine Alien universe from scratch - a similar thing Nolan did with Batman. Scott gives some hope, as he suggested he would like to make another Alien movie unrelated to previous films. But I don't know if it'll ever happen.
    Last edited by Rogue Keeper; 6th Dec 2007 at 04:32.

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