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Thread: Your thoughts on Crysis?

  1. #151
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: ideally far away
    The sound of a plane overhead is that of Phatose missing the point.

  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by dethtoll View Post
    guys i want hundred precent accurate science in my entertainment whos with me
    aperture science? MORE LIKE APERTURE STUPIDS THE GUN VIOLATES CONSERVATION OF ENERGY AND MAYBE IMMIGRATION LAWS AHASFFDFSDF

    shut up and watch the damn movie/play the damn game/jerk off to the damn porn even though she's obviously north of thirty and not a cheerleader.

  3. #153
    Taking the Death Toll
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    Location: ideally far away
    Go to bed, Kerin. It's past your bedtime.

  4. #154
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    Quote Originally Posted by dethtoll View Post
    Go to bed, Kerin. It's past your bedtime.
    done

  5. #155
    Taking a break
    Registered: Dec 2002
    Quote Originally Posted by dethtoll View Post
    guys i want hundred precent accurate science in my entertainment whos with me
    Science fiction doesn't mean you can throw science out of the window. Just like historical fiction doesn't mean you can make Napoleon win Waterloo by nuking it with Tzar dropped from Enola Gay.

  6. #156
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: ideally far away
    That's just not an example, that's an X-TREEM example. Cue energy drink commercial.

    It's also missing the point.

    The point is, just because it's sci-fi doesn't mean it has to have 100% accurate science. A little wiggle room can work wonders. For that matter, I don't see why the quadruped alien is so scientifically incorrect anyway. First of all DNA was never mentioned in the movie so I don't know wtf Phatose is talking about. Second of all the thing's a fucking alien. Hell, it's not even that, it's a biomechanical construct. It's a weapon created by an alien species. (Look up some of the stuff on the Space Jockeys sometime, you'll see they at one point planned to have something about how the Space Jockeys created the Xenomorphs as a weapon.) Who's to say it's going to play by the same genetic rules life on Earth does?

  7. #157
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    Registered: Dec 2007
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    Quote Originally Posted by dethtoll View Post
    (Look up some of the stuff on the Space Jockeys sometime, you'll see they at one point planned to have something about how the Space Jockeys created the Xenomorphs as a weapon.) ?
    I just took your advice. I was amazed by the derelict ship being referred to as a 'bomber', w/Alien eggs as it's payload.

  8. #158
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2004
    Eh, fuck it. You can have your opinion, I'll have mine. If you're gonna accept EU profiteering as part of the series, there ain't no point in further discussion.
    Last edited by Phatose; 9th Dec 2007 at 14:18.

  9. #159
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: ideally far away
    Huh??

  10. #160
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    Er, the Space Jockeys are canon as far as I know; Ridley Scott originally came up with them, didn't he?

  11. #161
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2004
    The race themselves, sure. Anything about them being the creators of the aliens as a bioweapon, no.

  12. #162
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: ideally far away
    BZZZZT

    Ridley Scott specifically stated in a commentary track that the Space Jockeys used aliens as weapons.

  13. #163
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    Registered: Mar 2004
    and where can I find this?

  14. #164
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: ideally far away
    ...

    Gee, I dunno, perhaps the commentary track for the Alien DVD?!

  15. #165
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2004
    Which version? There's the Quadrilogy version, the stand alone DVD, and the directors cut with the egg morphing retcon.

  16. #166
    Taking a break
    Registered: Dec 2002
    Quote Originally Posted by Phatose View Post
    and where can I find this?
    On Wikipedia.

  17. #167
    Taking the Death Toll
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phatose View Post
    Which version? There's the Quadrilogy version, the stand alone DVD, and the directors cut with the egg morphing retcon.
    The stand-alone DVD is the Quadrilogy version, just sold separately, and the commentary is in both the theatrical version and the DC.

  18. #168
    BR796164
    Registered: Dec 2000
    Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
    Quote Originally Posted by Sulphur
    Just realised that Blade Runner (1982) came out before Neuromancer (1984), though both of them share similar influences.
    Gibson once said that when he watched BR in cinema in 1982 (he was writing Neuromancer at that time), after the film he left the cinema quite shocked, because the world in the film looked far greater than the Neuromancer world in his head. Dick is a grandfather of cyberpunk, at least one of the grandfathers, for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harvester
    So what did you think of it? Has the image quality been improved from the kind-of-lousy previous Director's Cut DVD? And have they fixed the '6 replicants, 1 dies, that leaves 4' error?
    The image is perfectly clear. Unlike the 2006 DC remastered DVD, which is actually a cleaned digital image of the 1997 DVD, for Final Cut they digitalized original film prints they digged up from Warner archive (which were thought to be lost or deteriorated beyond repair back in 2000 when the FC works started) and then worked with them further. But some people don't like the new color scheme tint, though.

    The replicant error is corrected, just like many other glitches and goofs. Most people won't even notice the small corrections. Of course with the replicant math problem eliminated, there is one less Deck-a-Rep argument.

  19. #169
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    Registered: Sep 2004
    Location: Maritime Provinces (Canada)
    Question: What is your opinion of the workprint version of the film compared to the others? Are you missing out on much by going with the 4-disc set, instead of the 5-disc that's almost 2x the price?

  20. #170
    BR796164
    Registered: Dec 2000
    Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
    It just depends on how big enthusiast you feel to be - and how you like all the goodies/toys coming in the 5-disc package. Frankly said I didn't get to Workprint yet, but BR FAQ sums up it's specifics as follows:

    US Denver/Dallas Sneak Preview/Workprint--70mm (113 min):
    --------------------------------------------------------
    - Webster's 2012 definition of a replicant used in lieu of opening crawl
    - voiceovers deleted except at Batty's death
    - Bryant says TWO replicants were fried running through an electric field
    - conversation between snake-maker and Deckard is different and matches their lips
    - includes shot of nearly nude dancers in hockey masks outside Taffey's bar
    - Batty says, "I want more life, father."
    - Pris lifts Deckard up by his nostrils when she beats him up
    - different voiceover used after Batty's death
    - ends with the elevator doors closing
    - features "If I Didn't Care" by Ink Spots
    - shorter than other versions
    It should also have only modest placeholder soundtrack, the editing is somehow rough and the image allegedly looks bad and scratched as the original WP film print didn't go through the same level of remastering than Final Cut. Most of the more interesting short scenes it has above 82OV/92DC are either reintroduced in Final Cut or to be found/discussed among bonuses on other discs. But overall sense of the story is the same, don't expect any shocking new revelations in the plot. WP is just that thing for hopeless geeks.

    Damn, originally I wanted to post a thread in commchat about the Final Cut DVDs but I guess hijacking a Crysis thread is more efficient.

  21. #171
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    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Landahn
    I haven't watched the Workprint version myself yet either, but I don't think it'll be something to warrant multiple viewings, i.e. you'd watch it once just to see what it's about, but then that's it. So I'm guessing it's not necessarily worth it.

    But the fifth disc did have another documentary on it as well, which went into the differences between the versions, and how they approached making the Final Cut. Don't know whether you'd lose that one as well if you went for the 4-disc set.

  22. #172
    BR796164
    Registered: Dec 2000
    Location: Bratislava, Slovakia
    I think that 3-hours long Dangerous Days documentary (which comes even with 2-disc edition) pretty much answers everything essentially important for normal people and the featurettes on other discs are just additional in-depth tidbits.

  23. #173
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Landahn
    BR Numbers, did you have problems playing the Dangerous Days commentary? My disc seems to stutter and hang ever now and then, no matter which DVD drive I play it in (1 Xbox, 2 laptops).

  24. #174
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Landahn

    Omzg, double post!

    I finally got around to seeing Alien 3 SE - much better than the theatrical cut. Greater characterisation of pretty much everyone in the film, less incoherent cuts, etc. Good, even.

    The only thing I found strange was why they had to get rid of the chestburster scene at the end. Ah, well.


    And so, to finally get this thread back on track: Lotsa dead Koreens.

  25. #175
    New Member
    Registered: Dec 2007
    Quote Originally Posted by N'Al View Post
    BR Numbers, did you have problems playing the Dangerous Days commentary? My disc seems to stutter and hang ever now and then, no matter which DVD drive I play it in (1 Xbox, 2 laptops).
    I don't, but I am playing it in a traditional DVD player.

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