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Thread: T2 mission by SlyFoxx: Unnecessary Risk (Nov. 29/2007)

  1. #76
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: Sheffield, UK
    well I got dewdrop, I can't believe I did what I did to get her though, 285 short of max loot didn't use Garrett level though I like my BJ too much

    Verrrrrry nice looking level, nice simple layout but surprisingly difficult, for 2 months effort this is damn good, I would have liked a stealthy way into the guard towers though

    Slyfoxx : I've pm'd you with how I got her can you PM me with the other way .. ways ( I really don't believe I went the way you intended ) ?

  2. #77
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2007
    Location: Cragscleft, Bedfordshire, Eng.
    WooHoo ! Just got Dewdrop!

    As with you Esme, I'm surprised at what I was able to do...didn't expect that.

  3. #78
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: Sheffield, UK
    apparently there are at least two other ways, the way I went isn't far off one of them but it is different so there are at least three ways

  4. #79
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Making Larry Miserable
    Quote Originally Posted by shadows View Post
    The fake golden bones, it's not complete, one of the leg bones is missing... Is this significant?
    spoiler:
    There is another golden bone in the attic but I'm not sure how or if you can get there.

  5. #80
    Member
    Registered: May 2002
    Location: The Netherlands
    I missed a lot here ... ???
    Thanks for the big hug Sly Foxx! I'm sending one right back to you! 000 + XXX!

    I don't understand: about the singing of Garrett .... the secret room ánd about Dewdrop!!!

    I miss her!

    I tried to find her .... and I know I've got 2 speedpotions and somewhere to climb, but I'm numb now I tried A LOT!!!

    I tried climbing around "the hole" .... tried jumping to the "chimney thing" in the garden .... It doesn't work!
    I don't know what to do here anymore?

    Please tell me what to do here?
    I'd like to at least find Dewdrop!!!

    Gloria Creep
    There're angels who playThief and angels who don't ........ both go to heaven ............
    Dare to join .............

  6. #81
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2003
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Dude View Post
    spoiler:
    There is another golden bone in the attic but I'm not sure how or if you can get there.
    Not sure, but i think someone mentioned that there's another secret room apart from the one that most people have found, perhaps it's this attic area?

  7. #82
    Keeper of FMs
    Registered: Oct 2004
    Location: Meraux, LA
    Here's a little help, Gloria!

    Garrett's Song:
    Garrett was singing a song from "Song of the Caverns", one of the missions added for Thief Gold.

    Dewdrop:
    spoiler:
    Stand on the ledge just outside the hole & look across the valley to the tall rock. You may need to zoom in to see her. Once you see her, there are at least 3 different ways to get up there.


    Secret Room:
    spoiler:
    Stand on top of the wall around the house, and you can jump over to the chimney with a speed potion, but you will lose health points when you fall down. There is an easier way into the secret room in the downstairs display room. Look near the banner. There is another secret area inside the secret room.

  8. #83
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2002
    Location: swirling in the night wind
    This is an incredibly nice fm for being just an obligation fulfillment to the aurhor. Thank you, Slyfoxx! I only played on 'Hard' because I'm waaay too fond of bean-bopping to let go of my trusty blackjack.

    Found all the goodies, but needed help with finding the
    spoiler:
    key to open the booze box (doh!)
    And Ahhh, Gloria dear, sorry but I'm so tired from trying to reach DewDrop that I have to lie down and rest for a bit. In my alternate Thiefy universe, she'll have to stay where she is for now.

  9. #84
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Louisiana
    redleaf,

    Could you (or anyone?) give me a little hint as to where that key is? Drove me batty, being unable to open that. I still need to go back in and get that open, and rescue Dewdrop, since my previous *splat* attempts were *splat* very *splat* unsuccessful.

    Thanks!
    ~Shaz
    ....*splat*.

  10. #85
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2001
    Location: 0x0x0
    Quote Originally Posted by Shaz View Post
    redleaf,

    Could you (or anyone?) give me a little hint as to where that key is? Drove me batty, being unable to open that.
    Thanks!
    ~Shaz
    ....*splat*.

    It's in the most obvious and convenient place imaginable. You can even look directly at it depending on where you stand.



    Just to add. It was a bit of a go around on how to handle the loot requirement for expert difficulty. In the end I decided that only loot in plain view would be required to win the mission. The rest is there for those players who are true scroungers or just plain damn good. I like fulfilling objectives that have no clues and wish more missions contained such things. The tough finds in this mission are not meant to annoy. They are meant to reward the seasoned veteran (like me). :grin:
    Last edited by SlyFoxx; 5th Dec 2007 at 01:10.

  11. #86
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Making Larry Miserable
    spoiler:
    Top of the door to the bathroom

  12. #87
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Louisiana
    Oh, I fully agree with you, SlyFoxx! I'll frequently set myself personal goals in missions just for the fun of it, and I adore it when I do something as one of my goals (like getting to really hard to get to areas!), or just because 'it makes sense'/'it feels right', that winds up being a hidden/bonus objective. I really, really love those!

    And my going splat a lot shooting for Dewdrop wasn't annoying. I think I just put myself in a 'THIS is the way I'm gonna get to her!' mindset, and the way my mind was set in is not the way you get to her. Ergo, much splatting was to be had, hehe.

    I probably had a hard time finding that key because I'm unaccustomed to ghosting. I love my blackjack and I love being able to freely scour every inch of a place, without dodging servants. I did it though, quite successfully, using hardly any water arrows at all, and felt really proud of myself for it!

  13. #88
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2001
    Location: 0x0x0
    One of my goals with AFIN and UR was to make two missions that were not too difficult to ghost or at least semi-ghost. There is a special satisfaction that can only be had by getting by with just lock-picks, rope, head, hands and feet.

    In earlier alpha and beta versions most of the patrolling AI were set to patrol at random. It made it even a challenge for the designer because even I couldn't be sure where they were going! But since I used as few patrol points as possible the pathfiniding was a bit buggy at times so I went with standard patrols for the release version.

    If anybody wants to try the mission that way grab the mission file below.
    The mission is exactly the same as the original release save the change to the AI's patrol behavior.

    http://rapidshare.com/files/74505611...ndomPatrol.zip

    1) Make a copy of the original (UR_V1.zip) zip file.
    2) Rename it to something else ...say Mod_UR_V1.zip
    3) Extract the contents of the new zip.
    4) Rename the file UR_V1_RandomPatrol.mis to miss20.mis.
    5) Replace the old miss20.mis file with the new one.
    6) Zip the contents of Mod_UR_V1 back up.
    7) Play through Darkloader.

  14. #89
    Clearinghouse
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Siberia, Russia
    Interesting. Thanks!

  15. #90
    Member
    Registered: May 2002
    Location: The Netherlands
    Can you be specific where to enter the secret room
    spoiler:
    (look near a banner) through the displayroom downstairs.
    I tried jumping to the chimney with a speedpotion, but I never reached it.

    I can see Dewdrop now, tried rope arrows, never got there. It's tough. Any further hints?

    Gloria Creep
    There're angels who playThief and angels who don't ........ both go to heaven ............
    Dare to join .............

  16. #91
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: Jafaville New Zealand
    Quote Originally Posted by Gloria Creep View Post
    Can you be specific where to enter the secret room
    spoiler:
    (look near a banner) through the displayroom downstairs.
    I tried jumping to the chimney with a speedpotion, but I never reached it.
    spoiler:
    An easier way, go into the house, go downstairs to where Bafford keep shis trophies (e.g Garretts 'blackjack' & Hammerite relics) Start slashing the banners, it should reveal a door. Now in one of the corners is a statue (I think) frob around there, you should be able to activate a switch.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gloria Creep View Post
    I can see Dewdrop now, tried rope arrows, never got there. It's tough. Any further hints?
    spoiler:
    Save first. Drink the speed potion and run straight to it. In my case, I ran into the cliff, but could just frob Dewdrop in time.

  17. #92
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Making Larry Miserable
    spoiler:
    I used rope arrows.

  18. #93
    If you can't find the special
    spoiler:
    key to the secret liquor cabinet
    then do the obvious:
    spoiler:
    bash it open with your sword!

  19. #94
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
    Damnit, I blink for a few seconds, and I miss Slyfoxx post a new mission.

    What a world. Downloading now, and I'm looking forward to playing it!

    .j.

  20. #95
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2003
    Location: United Kingdom
    I'd stop blinking then, if I was you!

  21. #96
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2004
    Location: Sweden & Florida

    Gloria

    As for the secret room. I took a crate, put it next to the chimney & mantled up, but you have to do it on the corner of the chimney, not in the middle 'cause that won't work...

  22. #97
    Member
    Registered: May 2002
    Location: The Netherlands
    Thanks Taffers, for all the help.
    I found the secret room and even managed to get Dewdrop!!!
    This definately is one to play more than once

    Gloria Creep
    There're angels who playThief and angels who don't ........ both go to heaven ............
    Dare to join .............

  23. #98
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: Jafaville New Zealand
    Quote Originally Posted by Gloria Creep View Post
    Thanks Taffers, for all the help.
    I found the secret room and even managed to get Dewdrop!!!
    This definately is one to play more than once

    Gloria Creep
    Gloria:
    spoiler:
    Did you get the secret room inside the secret room? Apparently there is one. And I ain't got it. Nor do I have it.


    Guys, a hint would be great

  24. #99
    Keeper of FMs
    Registered: Oct 2004
    Location: Meraux, LA
    Quote Originally Posted by bob_doe_nz View Post
    Gloria:
    spoiler:
    Did you get the secret room inside the secret room? Apparently there is one. And I ain't got it. Nor do I have it.


    Guys, a hint would be great
    Hint:
    spoiler:
    Look closely around the bookcases.


    Spoiler:
    spoiler:
    There is a wall hanging above the bookcase next to the fireplace. It can be opened.

  25. #100
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Padded Cell
    Now, I know this is a funny thing to whine about... but I finished the mission, got the secrets (including the easter egg) and grabbed dewdrop - but Garrett didn't sing for me - what did I miss?

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