That video is so low-resolution that it's not at all obvious what exactly is inside the bay.Originally Posted by Zygoptera
But even granting that there may be platforms in that shot, it's much more likely that they would be maintenance lifts, not permanent elevated fixtures.
What view is there to block at the hangar entrance anyway? They look out into empty space.
Part of the platforms are lifts. I was thinking aircraft carrier, but when it comes right down to it for a bay that size and considering how relatively small the shuttles look it doesn't really make sense for a carrier like lift system, just a quick throughput unload/load system with parking space.
As for the view, the still shows it pretty well, you ought to be able to see down to view the 'top' of the lower levels: med/research etc which is really unnecessary detail from a design pov.
Several (if not all, can't remember) of SS1's levels are divided into quadrants: alpha, beta, gamma, and delta.
This looks totally awesome! Keep up the good work.
Thank you very much for your support!
this looks amazing. keep up the good work.
Thanks!
Just noticed this forum today. This is an excellent idea, and I hope it is left alone by ...those who don't like to leave this type of project alone. Might be safer not being public till it's too late...
As a big fan, I'll dare to say: I hope you won't try to remain too purist with regard to adhering to the original level design, verbatim. Example: all of those diagonal floors and ceilings are the way they are because they couldn't do much else in the engine. Without going outright crazy and changing everything, I hope you'll take liberty to enhance design and details as the dark engine will allow.
You've never heard of the Citadel Conversion Project before now?
The basic floor plans will remain the same, but the levels will be enhanced with more detail, architectural and otherwise. The screenshots in this thread are a good indication of what we're trying to do.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Yep. I don't stray much from the Thief forums if at all. In fact, I only noticed it today because someone (Nameless Voice I think?) posted a link here, on the Thief forums.You've never heard of the Citadel Conversion Project before now?
It's a shame that System Shock (SS2 being one of the best games ever created, in my opinion) doesn't get more attention here, but I think Thief is so huge here and in general that it just gobbles up the majority of visits.
Any screenshots of Cyberspace yet?
I'll upload a couple when I do Storage, though whether they will actually be used as is is undecided- while the current version of cyberspace is fairly faithful to the original it's also a lot of work and some things cannot be done as it is in SS1, there's no way to get a fully rotateable camera for example.
Ah, so you have been doing it. I wasn't sure if you were or not.
I think what we'll end up doing is redesigning cyberspace to fit our needs. Hopefully it won't be too much of an overhaul...just enough to make it easier to navigate with the fixed camera orientation.
Hack water to be invisible, and not force a "swimming" motion. This might allow for something close to the "6-degrees-of-freedom" cyberspace had.
Oh, and it's shocking and depressing how little attention System Shock 2 is getting these days. Much as I love thief, I can't be the only one that's crying out for more fan-campaigns for SS2.
Weightlessness isn't the problem; that was figured out long ago. The problem is that SS1's cyberspace was designed with complete axis freedom; that is, there was no real "up" or "down"; and the player could turn 360 degrees in every and any direction. This is impossible with SS2; the engine is designed so the player's head only rotates so far up and so far down. Therefore, cyberspace will likely be somewhat redesigned in order to better fit with the way player orientation works in SS2. It's pretty much unavoidable.
Damn I totally forgot about this thread. Some DAMN NICE pics throughout. Keep up the great work guys
Though you know, and I'm quite possibly milking this topic for what it's worth, the Dark Engine sources discovery could lead to some wonderful modifications, that could make the camera seem more like the old System Shocks.
Yes, I've considered this possibility. We'll see what actually comes out of all of this; hopefully there will be some sweet modifications that can be made to the Dark Engine due to it.
I want to play this so bad. ><
The lack of posts here is worrisome though.
Even if it isn't finished until 2020, I hope you guys keep working on it when you can.
This mod is worth making, if any mod is.
Everything I see so far looks superb.
One year later and I must know,
if this project is dead or slow?
I didn't plan on such a rhyme,
but now that I've amused myself,
I've felt it to be worth the time.
Um... (Syllables) Elf.
G'Len hasn't even signed in for a year and a half, so I'd assume dead.
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