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Thread: T2 FM: The Mirror of Return by PsymH (Feb. 23rd 2010)

  1. #526
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2009
    Location: Germany

  2. #527
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2002
    Thanks for that! Too bad the rest of it was never done.

  3. #528
    Moderator
    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    I started again on expert and have now finished. I couldn't complete mission 2 (?) because I mislaid a talisman and had no idea where to find it again. Thank you PsymH - this was great fun and I'll definitely be playing it again soon - I still haven't managed to do the letter bit.

  4. #529
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Deep inside mediocrity
    I just started playing this one again after a long rest and I am in Part III and I can't find Larius because it's been so long I don't remember where I met him the last time. I'm currently camping out at the big obelisk in the castle. I need a hint.

    Nevermind I figured it out and finished the game.
    Last edited by mxleader; 3rd Oct 2010 at 02:20.

  5. #530
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: US
    I need help with part 1. I am playing on Normal. I have the green and red gems only. I know where the white one is and I know where to use that one but I found the red gem before I found where the white one is located. Where do I use the red gem? And, where is the blue gem located and where do I use that one? I need some specific spoilers. I have been running around this mission for a long time now.

  6. #531
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2009
    Location: Germany
    You can use the red stone in
    spoiler:
    top of SW Tower
    . As for the blue stone I'm not sure. Try it in the basement in a shelf or in the bathroom with the dead fish. After this you can use it in the
    spoiler:
    top of SE Tower
    . Sorry, but for me it's a long time ago

  7. #532
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: US
    Yeah, I've read that in the posts here but it's not making sense to me. I'm not sure where the SW and SE towers are. I know where the round tower is where the white gem is located but I have no idea how to reach the SW and SE towers. Also, it seems like I have been all over the place but I never saw a bathroom with dead fish.

  8. #533
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2002
    Location: Texas
    Keep looking and remember to use your map.

  9. #534
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: US
    Ok, I found the towers and I found the blue gem too. Man, those wall ladders were hard to see.
    Thanks guys.

  10. #535
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2002
    Location: Texas
    Our pleasure! And yes they are hard to see. I missed then too the first time..lol

  11. #536
    Ghost
    Registered: Aug 2003
    I think I'm missing something really basic. I've stumbled across the green, blue, and white gems (I think I found the white one first, then the green, then the blue... does the order one finds them matter? If so, how are we to know that?) I've gotten a bit of loot (about 2000), but I haven't found Larius.



    I cannot seem to "use" the gems; they don't respond to right-clicking, and they cannot be dropped. Maybe when I find the red gem, they'll all become usable?

    I need a juicy hint for finding the red gem and getting into the southern courtyard. Any suggestions?

    Thanks,

    Dafydd

  12. #537
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2002
    Quote Originally Posted by Dafydd View Post
    I think I'm missing something really basic. I've stumbled across the green, blue, and white gems
    "Use" the green stone where you found it (in the tower). The environment will change a little bit. This will take you to Larius if you climb down

  13. #538
    Ghost
    Registered: Aug 2003
    Thanks, Fibanocci.

    ~

    I've gotten quite a bit farther:

    I have all the stones
    All the elemental icons
    I have 10 out of 12 secrets


    I'm still looking for the rest of the secrets; but what I'm really curious about now is the unfrobbable door in the north half of the map, the room in between the bathroom on that side and the secret tunnel by which Garrett entered the compound at the very beginning. I looked in the rooms on either side using the Eye of Revealing (whatever it's called), but I didn't see any secret entrance. I even went to the south side and tried to find a way in via the courtyard. Nada.

    Dafydd

  14. #539
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2009
    Location: Germany
    Unfrobable doors cannot be entered, but in the third mission one of those doors is open. For the secrets: Look in the lootlist.

    http://www.ttlg.de/de/fm_walkthrough...ist_part_1.htm

  15. #540
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2006
    Location: Italy
    [QUOTE=bob_doe_nz;1968525]Once you have taken the envelope from Part 1, take it to Kafee's place in Part 2. Use it on the letterbox.

    Does this mean that if I don't have the envelope I have to go back to part 1 and replay all part 2????

  16. #541
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2009
    Location: Germany
    No. You can finish the mission without having the letter. It's just a bonus objective.

  17. #542
    New Member
    Registered: Jan 2011
    Quote Originally Posted by Sticky Fingers View Post
    Real sorry to hear you're having so much trouble with this one, tafferjim - haven't played version b (yet), so don't know if any locations changed, but:

    Blue Gem - basement under the prison tower, it should just be sitting on a shelf in a storeroom. Use in the s-e tower (top-right on the map).

    Red Gem - Use this in the s-w tower (the one in the bottom-right corner of the map) in the room immediately under the roof. Have a good look around after using it: it's not real obvious that you've 'moved'.
    Yep, thnks. Passed it two time, while it looked like some cheap pottery thing...you see often

    Aldo i enjoy this mission there are several keypoints bad employed.

    The gems; first you do not even know that you must look for them, so missing the white one is quite possible. All gems in general; it is a pity that these important objects are "hidden" in such silly places.
    Those thinks should atleast be locked, that's what i should do. In fancy boxes, so you know there is some important stuff to be found, instead of missing them (see my blue gem remark) while they look like a normal object.

    The atmosphere: in some area's i feel it is too dark. Too dark in general
    The Music: poor, hearing the wind all the time is getting on my nerfs and in the fortress it's not much better.

    The Storyline: Beside the gem issue i think there are more "gaps"; like after you have the four stones.
    So you open the gate, go to that door....then what? Did i miss a clue ?

    Must be in the book in the lib with the hidden switch. The switch, i could not find while examining ALL the bookshelves! Some people make a art of hiding switches, i know. I will go back...sigh.

    And when it has nothing to do with that book, how do you figure out opening that big door ? Just some luck ?

    See, these kind of things put me, and i gues, others too, off.

    The Fortress; interiour wise it is quite boring. Some fancy rooms with fancy furniture have stone on the floor; i mean; the hallways are better of with carpet ! LOL

    Courtyard? bland
    Gem area;s ? empty and bland

    Now, i know the makers have put alot of effort into this and they did some nice stuff, like the gem thing and the time-portal. The thing is, it all aint too well executed into the game and into the story.

    Just my 2 cents

    Game score 7.5 Overall
    Last edited by nickie; 28th Jul 2012 at 15:26. Reason: Spoiler cover added

  18. #543
    New Member
    Registered: Jan 2011
    Quote Originally Posted by Dafydd View Post
    I think I'm missing something really basic. I've stumbled across the green, blue, and white gems (I think I found the white one first, then the green, then the blue... does the order one finds them matter? If so, how are we to know that?) I've gotten a bit of loot (about 2000), but I haven't found Larius.



    I cannot seem to "use" the gems; they don't respond to right-clicking, and they cannot be dropped. Maybe when I find the red gem, they'll all become usable?

    I need a juicy hint for finding the red gem and getting into the southern courtyard. Any suggestions?

    Thanks,

    Dafydd
    in every tower, on the first floor there is ladder, climb that up towards the room above it. There you must use the stones, except the white one. That White one you use in the big round tower.

    Quote Originally Posted by cavador_8 View Post
    Yeah, I've read that in the posts here but it's not making sense to me. I'm not sure where the SW and SE towers are. I know where the round tower is where the white gem is located but I have no idea how to reach the SW and SE towers. Also, it seems like I have been all over the place but I never saw a bathroom with dead fish.
    You have six towers in total, the towers you are NOT looking for are those parralel to the front gate. Cant make it easier said then that

    Own issue: i see why i cannot end part 1; i still need 142 gold (why o why, now you are forced to go all the castle over again, hoping to find something you missed).

    Someone sais you do not need this Lib secret, but it surely would help you to get that 5000 loot:

    LC Jar
    20

    LC Jar
    20

    LC Tapestry
    150

    LC Canopic Jar
    75

    LC Jar
    20

    So, where is that %^#$& switch

    oke, another 200 gold found, one hidden behind well, you never looked for it there. Terrible. Now, made my way into the city.... quite spooky and quite.... blue. Sorry, too blue to make it look beautifull.
    Anyway, i talk with woman, 1000 loot. Oke, lets loot some....wtf, 90% of this village doors are fakes ? oke, two doors will open, the milky bar and the house next to it, another door stay locked, my tools wont help there and i seen a nice postbox...locked too. Right, 670 or so gold found...what next ?

    Oh well, maybe i can pick some guards, who knows. Are wonder around in the dessert and hope to find some precious stones. Honestly cannot say i enjoy this very much, wundering around for miles and miles dor some lousy coin. Rather do some houses, with guards and/or pissed owners. Old scool, i know
    Last edited by Jediron; 28th Jul 2012 at 18:27.

  19. #544
    New Member
    Registered: Jan 2011
    Quote Originally Posted by Daisy View Post
    I couldn't find a place to mantle up on the fourth ledge, so I took a different route.

    I crossed the skinny ledge near the tree and went through the cave. Thanks, Aspirin.
    Could not get up there either, after zillion tries. Hate these impossible jumps, not good for my morale and more encouraging me to wipe this FM form my harddrive. Gonna try that tiny ledge you speak of later, at that small tree you mean? then to the right....oke

    Must say i am glad Looking Glass did not went this route. This Thief engine does not look pretty with large landscapes so i am glad they took the "urban" city road.

    Problem i have with this FM is not only the loose ends at the beginning, but a bigger issue lies in the fact that there a long periods you hardly have anything to do and then suddenly, you get alot to do and often in a frustating way. The distances to "rewards", little bonusses are too long for me and so it winds up in a boring, long walk from a to b, then the "fun" starts. However, the fun given isn't enough to satisfy my hunger.

    Take that tomb stone key for example, it just lies there, somewhere in a meaningless building. Then you have to figure out on your own, you can use it there at the zombies. No book, no clues, nada.
    The magic flame on the other hand, thats oke, like a bit is revealed in the book/notes.

    then there is the impossible hidden secrets, sometimes you never see a switch or so, you just try at some "suspicious" texture and prey. I know, it is a secret..but ala, how far do you go ?
    Till the point the player strafe every inch of your map, just to not miss any secret/clue whatever ?
    Otoh are the stones just lyijng somewhere, for you to pick up. Easy does it. Weird.

    Played Rowena's "the seven sisters" before this and i must say; they do not compare in quality. That FM was hard too, but in different way; more enjoyable and less frustating.

    Just hope i finish this FM one day, because right now; i am fed up with it
    Last edited by nickie; 29th Jul 2012 at 03:12. Reason: Spoiler cover added

  20. #545
    New Member
    Registered: Jan 2011
    Quote Originally Posted by elkston View Post
    I'm playing mission #2 on "Hard", but don't know how to end it. I've completed all the objectives Have the mirror and the 4 tablets except for "Find a Comfy Inn to Sleep in". I thought this would be the Milky bar, but it is not. Where should I go to end the mission?

    EDIT: Nevermind, I found it. 2nd floor of house next to the bar! . BTW Pyhsm, the name placard on that house is blank -- at least in the v1.0 of the mission.
    Any idea how to get there, because i cannot find a entrance

    Tried the roof legt from the door..and then futher up..nope, balcony...nothing. At the back, on the bif fat wall, nada. HOW?

    Emply name plates doesn't help you find anything either

  21. #546
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2002
    Location: Texas
    If I remember correctly its the building that when you leave the bar is on the right! The door and blank sign should be at the far end! Hope this helps!

  22. #547
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Bremerton Washington
    I am stuck in mission 2. I have the mirror and 4 pieces of code Logically they should be the solution to get back but I have tried every combination to no avail. Can someone post the code so I can get back Having to use trial and error as the only solution is really frustrating.
    Last edited by bedwine; 5th Feb 2013 at 00:31.

  23. #548
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2004
    Location: Sweden & Florida

    lol

    Quote Originally Posted by bedwine View Post
    I am stuck in mission 2. I have the mirror and 4 pieces of code Logically they should be the solution to get back but I have tried every combination to no avail. Can someone post the code so I can get back Having to use trial and error as the only solution is really frustrating.
    Me too, me too

  24. #549
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Bremerton Washington
    Quote Originally Posted by Acolyte6 View Post
    Me too, me too
    I finally found it. It is the sequence of codes and how they are stored in your inventory. Starting with your compass cylce through the codes and enter them accordingly.

  25. #550
    Member
    Registered: May 2010
    Location: THE NETHERLANDS
    Stuck, can anyone tell where to find the tombkey in mission 2,
    i've been everywhere in the ruins just before the cementry?
    searched every building top to bottem...

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