Thief Series FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (Technical / Purchasing / Etc.) - 2012

[Summer]

The FM folder will be created by FMSel if you start it and install a mission (it doesn't matter which one). Just edit the cam_mod.ini like this -- and start thief2.exe

Found the file folder. Check. Changed the cam_mod.ini file. Check. Tried to enter the correct FM path. NOT check. I keep getting a pop-up window that says: "The archive path may not be inside the FM path, or vice versa."

Does this mean that I have to have my folder for FMs somewhere other than the FMs folder that formed when starting the FMSel for the first time?

Pardon my stupidity. Clearly I don't speak techie...

EDIT: Never mind. I used the FM mission folder as archive path, and now they all show up there, same way as they do on Darkloader. I guess all that's left now is to try one out. Thank you for all your help, Unna

EDIT 2: Works! Tried with two FMs, and both work! Yay! I really can't thank you enough, Unna. I feared I might not get a Steam version of T2 to work this beautifully, or at all. Thank you!!!

[Tannar]

I'm sorry I wasn't around to help you out with this, but I'm glad Una was, and I'm glad you have it working. There is some good news on the horizon. R Soul is developing a new version of Darkloader. He says he isn't too far from having it finished, and when it is, it will likely be more appealing to Darkloader users than FM Sel. It's too bad he wasn't finished with it in time to help you here, but at least you have things working.

[Kupildivan]

How can I run Thief in old 8 - 16 bit color? Using NewDark and DDFIX, of course.

[Unna Oertdottir]

1. NewDark.
Edit cam_ext.cfg like this

; enable Direct3D 9 based display system (instead of the legacy DirectX 6 one)
;use_d3d_display

2. ddfix
Disable hardware rendering in cam.cfg

game_hardware 0

(the game might crash then, but you can run it without ddfix)

[The Black Cat]

I'm playing Thief Gold with Tfix installed. I'm in the Song of the Caverns mission, and Constantine's sword appears to be broken. It doesn't show up on screen. When I click the mouse button, I hear the swinging sound, but there appears to be no damage; when I try to cut down banners, nothing happens. I can't find any information about this issue. How can I fix it?

[Unna Oertdottir]

Did you install the enhancement pack? Then deinstall it with Tfix. If the game is in a protected folder, move it and install EP again.

[voodoo47]

repatch, don't do any manual edits to anything.

[The Black Cat]

Reinstalling Tfix fixed it. Thank you!

[jiansonz]

I've run into a problem I know I've read about, but I have forgotten what the fix is.

I play Thief 2 fan missions using NewDarkLoader, the one that you start by starting Thief 2. Been playing a couple of missions like this with no issues.

But now:
- All AI in the mission are 'frozen' with arms straight outstretched. I can still hear their voices and they react to me like normal but they don't move.
- My weapons do not show up on the screen (only the little icons in the inventory) and I can't use them.


EDIT: Problem solved (hopefully)
For some reason, my Thief 2 folder was suddenly missing the motiondb.bin file.

[The Black Cat]

EDIT: Ignore this, I fixed it.

[The Black Cat]

Recently I have had very slow saving in Thief Gold and Thief 2. I reinstalled Thief Gold and Thief 2, and Tfix and Tafferpatcher. I seem to have fixed TG but I can't figure out T2. It actually didn't have a problem until I installed Tafferpatcher, and now I can't figure out how to uninstall it. Saving used to be fine for me, I don't know what's changed. For some reason there are zero TTLG threads on this which is weird because surely someone else has had this issue. Does anyone know a possible solution?

[Unna Oertdottir]

Copy the T2 folder to another folder, maybe
C:\Games
Delete the old savegames.

[nickie]

. . . and now I can't figure out how to uninstall it.

Obviously I'd do what Unna Oertdottir suggests but for future reference, to return T2 to its original state, just run Tafferpatcher again and untick everything you selected when you ran it the first time. I occasionally mess up my T2 installation so I always keep a 'vanilla' version of T2 on my hard drive which is then easy to copy somewhere else and then run TP on that which usually resolves all my problems.

[The Black Cat]

Recently I started having problems with alt-tabbing Thief Gold and Thief 2. I used to be able to tab in and out of them instantly, but now, when I click on them to go back into them, they take a few seconds to pull up, with "Thief 2 Final 1.25" displayed in the corner of my screen. It also takes a few seconds to exit the game. Reinstalling Tfix did not work. Both games are running at the correct resolution. I am using the GOG versions.

This issue seemed to coincide with a Windows update if that means anything. I will try a clean install of the games. In case that fails, does anyone know what to do?

EDIT: Clean install does nothing.

[Unna Oertdottir]

Same issue with other games/programs?

[The Black Cat]

I don't have any other games installed besides Thief 3 (which has always been impossible to alt tab out of) and TF2. I tried TF2 and I am having the same issue.

[Unna Oertdottir]

Try to disable Aero Peek.

[The Black Cat]

Aero Peek is already disabled.

[Unna Oertdottir]

Maybe it's a (un)known issue with that Windows update you mentioned? Which one?

[The Black Cat]

This is the update, along with a security update for Flash.

[Unna Oertdottir]

A quick search

FIX FOR SLOW ALT+TAB WHILE GAMING, APRIL UPDATE 1803.

So here is the fix for the slow alt tab while gaming

Windows key--->Configuration(the gear)--->System--->Focus Assist--->DISABLE everything!

[The Black Cat]

I noticed that after the update, Windows started telling me it would be "quiet" while gaming and I had a feeling the issue might have been related to that. Thank you so much!

[<Username>]

Trying to install Thief Gold (German version) on Windows 8.1 Pro. The last time I played the game was in 2011. I gave my original CDs away since then but I still have the archive copies of fresh installs I made to make reinstalling the game easier.

I seem to be missing 3 of 12 crf files during installation of TFix_1.26a: bitmap.crf, books.crf and interface.crf. Any idea where to get these three files? I could just buy another copy from GOG.COM, but I prefer the German version of the guard voices and they only have the English version.

Here is what I did, step by step:

1. Downloaded TFix_1.26a from https://drive.google.com/uc?id=1IBHr...xport=download
2. Downloaded Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86) from http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=5582
3. Installed Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86), selecting the option "Repair" during the installation since I already had it installed
4. Downloaded DirectX End-User Runtimes (June 2010) from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/down...s.aspx?id=8109
5. Installed DirectX End-User Runtimes (June 2010)
6. Copied the content of my archive folder with the German version of Thief Gold from "Fresh Installs\The Dark Project" to C:\Thief
7. Started Thief Fixer Installer via TFix_1.26a.exe
8. Deselected ALL components to install (T2 Skies, T2 Water etc.)
9. Installed Thief Fixer to C:\Thief\
10. Error: "bitmap.crf move has failed. Move all 12 files with crf extension from your Thief folder into RES manually when you're done patching (no crf files must be left in the Thief folder). Reinstall Thief (full install) if some crf files are missing completely."
11. Error: "books.crf move has failed. Move all 12 files with crf extension from your Thief folder into RES manually when you're done patching (no crf files must be left in the Thief folder). Reinstall Thief (full install) if some crf files are missing completely."
12. Error: "interface.crf move has failed. Move all 12 files with crf extension from your Thief folder into RES manually when you're done patching (no crf files must be left in the Thief folder). Reinstall Thief (full install) if some crf files are missing completely."
13. Continued installation of Thief Fixer
14. Message: "Disable anti-aliasing? Choose yes if you use an onboard (especially Intel) or very slow dedicated graphics card. If you have no idea, Yes is the safer option."
15. Selected "Yes"
16. Finished installation of Thief Fixer
17. Checked C:\Thief\ and found 0 files with crf extension
18. Checked C:\Thief\RES\ and found 9 files with crf extension
19. Checked \Fresh Installs\The Dark Project and found 9 files with crf extension (bitmap.crf, books.crf and interface.crf are missing.)

[Unna Oertdottir]

Create a folder "RES" if it isn't there already and copy the crf resources from the archive into this folder.

Check install.cfg
It has to point to the RES folder (resname_base).
PM me.

[nightchild]

Hi! It has been some months that I haven't been playing and now that I try to start any T1/gold mission with FMselector an: unable to initialize 7 zip libraries pops up and I can't install T1 missions. It might have been answered here previously but I seem to be unable to find it.. What should I do please?