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Thread: Thief Reloaded Contest Entry: To The End With Nothing (5-Feb-2011)

  1. #1
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    Registered: Mar 2005
    Location: The Inverted Manse

    Thief Reloaded Contest Entry: To The End With Nothing (5-Feb-2011)

    We'd like to take this opportunity to announce our entry to Brethren's Thief Reloaded Contest. This mission is a joint effort between me and my partner Marisa.

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    * Story *

    You are Haunty von Joinus, the haunt who has been haunting the catacombs below the mechanist seminary for many years. However you have grown tired of patrolling the same hallways for what seems to have been an eternity, so you decide to bid farewell to your friend, break out of the seminary and find something more worthwhile to haunt.

    The exit is blocked by a magical barrier, which can only be passed by holding the Talisman of Death. You need to first destroy the four elemental talismans. Doing so will give you access to the Talisman of Death.

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    * Our goal *

    We wanted to take an OM and give it a totally different story without altering the mission. Therefore the changes to the original mission were minimal; a handful of brushes were added and a couple of hundred objects were replaced, mostly ambient sounds and scripting elements.

    Our goal was to provide you with a unique experience and let you view the Thief world from a totally different angle. Above all, we wanted to make you think.

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    * Important Notes *

    - You are a haunt. You can run faster with your hammer drawn, so don't tuck it away. Being a haunt, you don't have an inventory; therefore all the items that appeared as junk before might play a more important role in this mission. Finally, you don't have the hiding skills of Garrett. There is no light gem. You can still hide in the shadows, but not as effectively as Garrett does.
    - Haunts don't see the world as the living do, so don't adjust your TV sets.
    - Don't save during the opening conversation, it might break the mission.
    - Don't go too fast. Slow down and read whatever there is to be read.

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    * Download *

    From the main contest thread here: http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134784
    As usual, please use hints instead of outright spoilers to help the players who might be stuck.

    Thanks to everyone who helped us with the mission, in particular the beta testers.

    A lot of material used in this mission had been put aside for The Acid Trip II. I started working on TATII last year, but when it became clear that I was not going to finish it (due to the sheer amount work necessary), we decided to use the ideas in this mission. I guess you could call this mission the spiritual sequel to The Acid Trip. We hope you will enjoy playing it!
    Last edited by Haplo; 5th Feb 2011 at 17:46.

  2. #2
    Member
    Registered: May 2000
    Location: Thunder Bay, On., Canada
    Congratulations on the release, Haplo! This is definitely not your run-of-the-mill FM but then, we don't expect that from this particular author. We always look for something different and he always delivers!

  3. #3
    Member
    Registered: May 2009
    Location: Germany
    Thanks very much for this mission, Haplo and Marukpa !
    Well, this mission provides a perfectly different perspective.
    And I had lots of fun playing it - although at the end I wondered if I did everything as planned.
    Anyway, somehow I made it.
    Thanks !

  4. #4
    Member
    Registered: May 2003
    Location: Normally I'm in the batcave.
    I'm loving this mission, man- brilliant concept, I was laughing my ass off after reading the readme "You are Haunty Von Joinus". CAN'T. MOVE. PARALYZED. BY. AWESOMENESS.

    But yeah, I'm stuck of course.
    I've destroyed all the talismans except for the fire one behind the fan. How do you get back there without getting owned by the blades? I had a couple failed ideas that I still thought were pretty clever (jamming the blades with a crate and, when that failed, throwing loot over the blades at the talisman to try and shatter it from a distance, also I tried looking in the machine room for a fusebox or something that I could smash). Anyway, I'm totally clueless here.

  5. #5
    Summer Vacation Contest Winner 2010
    Registered: Sep 2003
    Location: PacificNorthWest...Near Forks
    Hi Ali, Hey, that was creative ! I love your innovation ! A lot of fun ! Thankyou !

  6. #6
    Member
    Registered: May 2000
    Location: Thunder Bay, On., Canada
    The Mike
    hint 1: look farther afield.
    hint 2: outside

  7. #7
    Member
    Registered: May 2003
    Location: Normally I'm in the batcave.
    Thanks Nightwalker, that put me in the right direction!

    Just beat it- I'm really curious as to whether or not how I got up to the second floor at the end was right or if I was just being dense:

    Basically I gathered ever crate I had access to at that point and made a giant crate tower up to one of the archer parapets. If that wasn't what I was suppose to do, I at least demand a high-five for thinking so outside-the-box.

  8. #8
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2005
    Location: The Inverted Manse
    Thanks all, glad you liked the mission!

    Did you guys use the haunting feature? It can be a lot of fun. Run around the level and get many mechanists to follow you, then haunt them all in one go. This way you'll have an army at your disposal.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mike View Post
    Thanks Nightwalker, that put me in the right direction!

    Just beat it- I'm really curious as to whether or not how I got up to the second floor at the end was right or if I was just being dense:

    Basically I gathered ever crate I had access to at that point and made a giant crate tower up to one of the archer parapets. If that wasn't what I was suppose to do, I at least demand a high-five for thinking so outside-the-box.
    You can go back upstairs through the crypt entrance from outside.

    I wonder how many people will finish the watcher puzzle the way we intended it, and how many others will find their own way.

  9. #9
    Member
    Registered: May 2005
    I solved the watcher puzzle by blocking off the watcher's view with the big crate nearby. It was fairly easy that way. To solve the mission, I needed Nightwalker's hint for the fan puzzle. I had seen the piece of rubble in the cemetary before, but didn't remember it when I was chucking crates and chalices into the fan.

    That was a pretty fun mission, Haplo and Marukpa! Yes, I used the haunting feature once on two mechanists at the front entrance of the seminar.

  10. #10
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2009
    Location: Situation's changed, Tom.
    Quote Originally Posted by View Post
    I solved the watcher puzzle by blocking off the watcher's view with the big crate nearby.
    Me too. Really enjoyed that puzzle.

    I was a bit disappointed that my solution for the fan didn't work. I bashed the small bot till I could pick up his 'corpse' and tried that to jam the fan.

    Overall a nice mission, with excellent innovative gameplay and a good atmosphere. I was kinda curious at first when I saw the 'Don't kill any innocents' objective. Who would Haunty consider an innocent?

  11. #11
    Moderator
    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    His pal and then anyone else he makes into a haunt.

    Beat ya to it Username!

    I would do the squiggles either side of your name but they seem to hide you.

  12. #12
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    Registered: May 2005
    Quote Originally Posted by PotatoGuy View Post
    Who would Haunty consider an innocent?
    The mission fails if you kill the other haunt in the mission.

  13. #13
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Albertslund, Denmark
    Hmm, i can't seem to find the earth talisman i think. I found and destroyed the 3 others, but that one eludes me. Please help.

  14. #14
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    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    Well I always have trouble remembering which is where but have you looked on the roof with the patrolling archer/s?

  15. #15
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    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Albertslund, Denmark
    Quote Originally Posted by nickie View Post
    Well I always have trouble remembering which is where but have you looked on the roof with the patrolling archer/s?
    Thanks, I completely missed that one.

  16. #16
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: USA

    missing 1 elemental talisman

    I found water, earth? and fire. Missing air. What can be done in the room atop the stairs with the metal floor near the cemetary?

    a hint would help please.
    "To live in the light is to see everything, to live in the dark is to see everthing you missed in the light."

  17. #17
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2005
    Location: The Inverted Manse
    Quote Originally Posted by View Post
    I solved the watcher puzzle by blocking off the watcher's view with the big crate nearby
    Correct!


    Quote Originally Posted by View Post
    The mission fails if you kill the other haunt in the mission.
    Killing ANY haunts will fail the mission.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowcrawler View Post
    I found water, earth? and fire. Missing air.
    a hint would help please.
    It is behind the leaking holy water font.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowcrawler View Post
    IWhat can be done in the room atop the stairs with the metal floor near the cemetary?

    Many people have asked me about the two doors for which Haunty says "Interesting..." and "I was expecting something more". These are the two doors to the Karras/Truat conversation chamber in the OM. They could not be opened in the OM, but in the FM I let the players open them, and I left what was behind them untouched. I thought it would be interesting for the players to see what was behind those doors.

    Anyone found the mini-easter-egg?

  18. #18
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    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: USA

    talisman of death.

    Ok, now have all 4 elemental talismans destroyed. Now looking for the Talisman of death and so far stuck. a hint please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Haplo View Post
    Correct!




    Killing ANY haunts will fail the mission.




    It is behind the leaking holy water font.





    Many people have asked me about the two doors for which Haunty says "Interesting..." and "I was expecting something more". These are the two doors to the Karras/Truat conversation chamber in the OM. They could not be opened in the OM, but in the FM I let the players open them, and I left what was behind them untouched. I thought it would be interesting for the players to see what was behind those doors.

    Anyone found the mini-easter-egg?
    "To live in the light is to see everything, to live in the dark is to see everthing you missed in the light."

  19. #19
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    Registered: Mar 2005
    Location: The Inverted Manse
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowcrawler View Post
    Ok, now have all 4 elemental talismans destroyed. Now looking for the Talisman of death and so far stuck. a hint please.
    It is somewhere in the main cathedral hall.

  20. #20
    Member
    Registered: May 2008
    Location: Poland
    Just finished it. It seems Haplo can always be counted on to do something original AND playable. Classic sneaky-blackjacky-lootgetty missions are all well and good, but sometimes you need something like the adventures of mr. von Joinus to break free of the routine.

    More of this sort of thing, please!

  21. #21
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    Registered: May 2009
    Location: Germany
    Quote Originally Posted by Haplo View Post
    Anyone found the mini-easter-egg?
    Huh ?? Not me. That's for sure.
    Damn.
    Would we recognize it if we see it ?
    Is is about maggots ?
    Last edited by gnartsch; 7th Feb 2011 at 17:17.

  22. #22
    Moderator
    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    Yes.
    No.

  23. #23
    Member
    Registered: May 2009
    Location: Germany
    Quote Originally Posted by nickie View Post
    Yes.
    No.
    Ok, so I am 50% right already
    Maybe about 'blackjack' ?
    If so: I did not find it ... and I am again at 50%

  24. #24
    Moderator
    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    Yes.

    Someone as inventive as you will not get any hints from me!

  25. #25
    Member
    Registered: May 2009
    Location: Germany
    Oh, there it is !!

    I would not have thought of searching for the easteregg at that place !
    Better get back into my coffin before I catch a cold.
    Last edited by gnartsch; 9th Feb 2011 at 18:52.

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