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Thread: The Last of Us (PS3)

  1. #126
    verbose douchebag
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Lyon, France
    I don't think it is wholly a confirmation bias, but I'd say that there is an extent of amplification by post facto cherry picking to reinforce the initial point. I just think the case would be strengthened by a more empirical account of the problem, since that might gauge the extent and even highlight if the problem is concentrated in any specific areas - if there are co-factors.

    It's not restricted to games either, as the Bechdel test for films points out nicely. Someone should devise an equivalent for games and see where it applies.

  2. #127
    Level 10,000 achieved
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland

    One year later...

    Playing TLOU Remastered on PS4 right now. On Survivor difficulty this time around, was surprised to see the echo location mechanic straight up removed on this higher difficulty. This is not gonna be easy, is it?

    Also, there's a Photo Mode. God I love photo modes.







    Last edited by henke; 16th Sep 2014 at 12:40.

  3. #128
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    If you haven't already seen this, you might find it interesting:

    A War Photographer Embeds Himself Inside a Video Game

    I didn't rate the article very highly, but I like the idea itself.

  4. #129
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    Location: Finland
    Yeah I saw that on FB and read it just after I'd posted here. The guy's rightly been called out enough on suggesting that videogame violence would desensetize you to real violence, so enough about that, but I know what he means about the characters appearing to not show distress. I don't think anyone would accuse TLOU's characters of not showing distress if they just played through the game regularly, but with the Photo Mode's ability to freeze the action at any moment and look around I was struck by how blankfaced the characters often are (see Ellie in my top screenshot) while all kinds of carnage is going on. Of course it's very hard to notice that if you're just playing the game, but the Photo Mode shines a light on that shortcoming.

  5. #130
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    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Landahn
    I'm assuming - and these are very big assumptions since I've neither played the game nor really looked into its Photo Mode - the developers probably felt coding for 'distressed faces' would be a waste of time since you're normally mostly looking at the back of the characters' heads when playing the game? I guess one alternative would be to give them Max Payne faces, he seemed to be distressed 24/7...

  6. #131
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    Location: Finland
    All done. Here's some pictures from the trip.
















  7. #132
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    That third shot is fucking magnificent.

  8. #133
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    Location: Finland
    Thanks.

    I don't know if it's been posted itt, but there's this really great documentary about the making of this game, called Grounded.



    Fascinating to see how the game changed during the development, and how different certain parts/elements could've ended up.

  9. #134
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland

    Let's be all poetic and loose our minds together

    Left Behind was really good. That one scene in the middle is so sad and beautiful. Reminded me of being a kid, and of the heartache of having to let go.

  10. #135
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    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    I got through this now. Might have been a bad idea to start watching Walking Dead at the same time, since things meshed together, but it's sort of like alt histories of the same situation, so interesting to compare them.

    Anyway, I have a lot of thoughts, but I'll say something just on the ending for now, regarding Joel's decision to save Ellie.

    Of course it was because he'd grown so attached to her, and with his past he'd be damned to lose another daughter-like person from his life, world be damned. But the subtext I also got was that honestly, maybe most of humanity, or what it had turned into, himself included at one point in his past, frankly didn't deserve saving. The best we deserved was a compound for the best of us to live out life with the people we love, and let the rest kill itself off.

    The game made a point to even say that wasn't really fair, since innocent people are needlessly suffering too, and Ellie listed some of them to make the point. But after slogging through so much backstabbing and moral decay for so long, I wasn't unsympathetic with Joel's thinking that civilization maybe crossed a line that couldn't or didn't deserve to be uncrossed so easily, at least not at the cost of one more life he cared about. Makes you think about how we value life too, from the faceless masses to the beloved individual, which is probably the message of the whole game TBH.
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  11. #136
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Naughty Dog are such a great developer, gaiz. They sure do go the extra mile to create immersive worlds!!!!111



  12. #137
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    https://archive.ph/DcTzH
    Who asked for a remake?

  13. #138
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    No one! Considering TLOU Remastered runs on PS5 as well this really is unnecessary.

    Unless they're planning on bringing it to other systems as well, then it's cool.

  14. #139
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    Registered: Apr 2000
    Location: The Docks

    The Last of Us, Part 1 (Remake)

    This does feel somewhat unnecessary, but then again, I'll probably buy it:

    https://www.pcgamer.com/the-last-of-...-coming-to-pc/

    https://media.direct.playstation.com...cement-trailer

    Sept 2nd on PS5, PC version "in development"

    Edit: I'm hoping they won't be bold enough to charge $60-70 for it. If so, forget it.
    Last edited by Brethren; 11th Jun 2022 at 00:18.

  15. #140
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Quote Originally Posted by Brethren View Post
    Edit: I'm hoping they won't be bold enough to charge $60-70 for it. If so, forget it.
    1. $70 confirmed. 2. Just wait for a discount, PS first party tend to fall in price sharply within a short few months.

    Surely we'll get the refined mechanics from the 2nd game? (Eg prone shooting.)

  16. #141
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: Edmonton
    I just played the original on PS5 a few months ago, and it kinda already felt like a remaster; it's held up really well. That said, I found the story rather unpleasant and am not eager to experience it again soon.

  17. #142
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Quote Originally Posted by Aja View Post
    I just played the original on PS5 a few months ago, and it kinda already felt like a remaster; it's held up really well.
    ...because it literally was a remastered PS3 game. Are you okay?

  18. #143
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: Edmonton
    I mean it didn't feel like an old PS4 game; it felt closer to a native PS5; maybe not exactly, but close. In any case, it didn't seem like it needed a remake at all.

  19. #144
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Quote Originally Posted by Aja View Post
    In any case, it didn't seem like it needed a remake at all.
    100% agree, but at the very least this means that the game will be on PC now.

    At present there's been mixed reception to the art direction changes. At least with a PC version they can be potentially reversed by modders.


  20. #145
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2001
    Location: Marlboro, MA, USA
    The remastered has a nice style, and is pretty sharp. The new version definitely looks much more REAL, which could increase my immersion, so I might have to try it.

  21. #146
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Kind of a big deal to me if it comes to PC. I'm not a console kind of person, but sometimes there are games that come out I think are so important I need to at least watch a walkthrough video of them, and the two big examples were this and RDR1. But if this comes out on PC, it gives me a chance to actually play it.

    I was going to say that I wish I could say the same about RDR1, but a little research brings up a few articles floating a rumor that they're working on a remake of that too which will also come out on PC.

  22. #147
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Quote Originally Posted by demagogue View Post
    I was going to say that I wish I could say the same about RDR1, but a little research brings up a few articles floating a rumor that they're working on a remake of that too which will also come out on PC.
    There's been remake rumours forever. Just like the Bloodborne PC port rumours, I wouldn't hold your breath for it.

    RDR1 seems playable using the RPCS3 emulator. It's a very good emulator. I recently replayed The Darkness 1 and 50 Cent: Blood in the Sand using it.
    https://wiki.rpcs3.net/index.php?tit...ead_Redemption



    EDIT:
    Apparently it runs a lot better under the Xbox 360 emulator, Xenia.
    Last edited by EvaUnit02; 15th Jun 2022 at 15:59.

  23. #148
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    1:1 remaster confirmed, the leaks about a month back were 100%. It's a $70 USD cash grab, with less content considering that they removed the PvP MP.

    Last edited by EvaUnit02; 31st Aug 2022 at 15:34.

  24. #149
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    I looked into getting this on PC, ~$85 NZD. That much for a decade old game? LMAO, no.
    https://isthereanydeal.com/game/lastofusparti/info/

    I think I paid $35 for a PS3 copy when it was about a year old + $20ish for the PS4 ver when it was a similar vintage. (One down side to PC gaming is that there's no physical copies that you can pick up on heavy discounts, cuz retailers are wanting to clear out their stock.)

  25. #150
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2000
    Location: The Docks
    Plus they're riding on the success of the show.

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