I have similar concerns here. These are very nice textures, but are they replacements for the originals? I don't think so.Originally Posted by zappen
Well, it's a little bit late but regarding http://nameless.zanity.net/epterrain/index.php there still might be something to add:
city/win5 (based on the new texture bluestn.png):
city/win5l (based on the new texture bluestn.png):
city/win51 (based on the new texture bluestn.png):
city/win51l (based on the new texture bluestn.png):
city/win52 (based on the new texture bluestn.png):
city/win52l (based on the new texture bluestn.png):
I'll have to agree with Larry here. Very nice, but a bit too different by EP standards.
Meanwhile, I've adapted some of Revae's stuff.
bafford/b04
terrain scale 64
tile factor 2
bafford/b06
terrain scale 64
bafford/b22
terrain scale 64 128
tile-factor 2 1
bafford/b24
terrain scale 64 128
tile-factor 2 1
city/cfwinf01
terrain scale 64 128
include darkwindow material
city/cfwinl01
terrain scale 64 128
rescore/wgrain01 & wgrain02
terrain scale 64
wgrain01: tile factor 2
wgrain02: tile factor 4
2nd try for the keeper textures (posting above deleted):
keeper/kwall03a (used the existing new kwall02a.png as background):
keeper/kwall07a and keeper/kwall06a (used the existing new kwall02a.png as background, so this one can be combined with it):
keeper/kwall11a (used the existing new kwall02a.png as background, so this one can be combined with it):
Brilliant overall, except for the pixelated cobwebs.
It may help rescaling the original and putting it side by side with your version to compare. As you can see the window ledge is not present in the original, the frame starts a little below the top of the texture, and the window is longer.
Here you can see the proportions are wrong in places as well as the surface texture and shadowing / depth of the material.
Last edited by LarryG; 8th May 2015 at 10:36.
One other thought to consider: the textures aren't always used full frame. Some times they are used for just a portion of the texture. IIRC a slice of oven2 is sometimes used in steps to visually provide a step ledge above an inset vertical. If you change where the ledge is in the frame, you can ruin that usage. It really is important to keep the proportions of the texture elements correct.
This doesn't look right. I believe the original texture is based on a dry ground (lake bed/mud flat) texture.
I believe the texture city/win2 is related to core/brnstn2s. They don't seem to match up exactly, but the extremely close style and color indicates that their differences are probably the result of palette conversion.Well, it's a little bit late but regarding http://nameless.zanity.net/epterrain/index.php there still might be something to add:
city/win2:
Bonus, core/brnston2s is also related to core/rock1 but I don't think that relationship needs to be retained.
I think you'll find that city/win2 is related to core/blubrik1city/win4 (based on the new textures stnwal3.png and win322.png):
Here's an album of the Blubrik1 related textures.
core\Blubrik1
city\Clmn1
city\Door2
city\Dortop1
ruined\RFirep03
ruined\Rfirep3g
ruined\Rwall11
ruined\Rwall11a
ruined\rwall11b
city\win4
How's this?
Last edited by Necrobob; 9th May 2015 at 04:08.
That looks nice, but I think the window needs a black border to make it look like it was made to fit the opening. Something like this, but nicer:
Win2, now with borders and alpha mask. Include darkwindow.mtl
Also, Revae's Bafford banners, adapted.
banner08
banner09
Great work. Lord Bafford would be pleased.
Win2, now with borders and alpha mask. Include darkwindow.mtl
Also, Revae's Bafford banners, adapted.
banner08
banner09
Marvelous, ain't they? But just to be entirely clear, I only upsampled them and slapped some extra fabric and fold texture overlays over them.
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Hey, nice! It's good to see my stuff is going to get some use.
Has there been any discussion on utilizing NewDarks environment mapping? I think it worked really well in many places in my pack. Also: What's been done for the water? Was thinking of batching out an upscaled version of mine maybe.
We use enviroment mapping on unlit windows and a cube map on the water, but not much else. It's definitely an effect that can be overused, considering how innefficient the added render passes are. It's okay for stuff that are generally flat planes, such as windows and water (and outside of Thief, computer screens) but if more high poly geometry has two or three extra render passes performance gets real ugly real fast.
But speaking of water, I for one don't particularily like the water effect we have in the EP right now, so I'd defintely welcome an alternative. Then, of course, it's up to consensus if it's gonna replace what we have now.
I also use environment mapping on polished tabletops, paintings, copper dishes and different tiny details.
Revae, I liked very much how this effect looks on your metal textures.
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CivicBui/detail01 terrain_scale 256 128
CivicBui/detai01a terrain_scale 128
CivicBui/Detail02 terrain_scale 128 64
Rescore & rescor_2/stain3 & stain3a terrain_scale 128 & terrain_scale 64 respectively
Core_3/mstn4128 terrain_scale 128
https://goo.gl/photos/Fy2y28N1s9JX9ZaG6 to make sure you get the full size version because Google has apparently decided Google Photo should be crappy
Core & Core_2/wallcrud terrain_scale 64 tile_factor 2
https://goo.gl/photos/CAMy47DzXWyyAd448
More to come.
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CivicBui/ODoor01a terrain_scale 256
https://goo.gl/photos/NQabvxCdZQZvmsmx5
Cave/cave1 terrain_scale 256
https://goo.gl/photos/qYPBKK72oUXmxY2F7
Inasmuch as a texture called wallcrud can be beautiful, it is beautiful!
It would be interesting to see a few missions entirely reskinned with all these textures. I bet a lot of them are close to complete / 90-95% replacement.
Finally a beautiful bathroom Centaur \o/
Nice work !
Is there better version of feather.gif (for arrows)? "HD" ; )
There is an updated version in the EP2, but it's only 32x16. I assume you'd like a larger version.
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