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View Poll Results: Should Britain leave the European Union?

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  • YES!...Must Brexit!

    20 33.33%
  • NO!...We Must Remain!

    32 53.33%
  • I have no idea what I want, yet I will vote anyway!

    8 13.33%
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  1. #251
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    "This is a victory for the decent, for honest, real ordinary people."
    "We have done it without a bullet being fired."

    -- Nigel Farage, scumbag extraordinaire

  2. #252
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    I guess I don't want to post on Facebook because I feel I'm probably better off not knowing what reactions I'd get.
    But this is what I wanted to say:

    Well, possibly researching at EU Institute in the near future, I wonder if they'll bother being English-friendly anymore. I wonder if they'll bother ever translating any EU document or ECJ decision into English again. I'm probably most annoyed at my research getting more complicated as anything, second perhaps just to #Brexit being a blow to cosmopolitanism & an open world.

    Lest we forget, open borders and markets are what the Right used to fight for. Thatcher & Reagan are probably up in heaven shouting down, "No no no! You're doing the exact opposite of what we said." This isn't the conservatism anybody Conservative ever wanted. (Needless to say it doesn't even pass the laugh test for progressives.)
    :blugh:

  3. #253
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Oh, stuff will probably still get translated into English. I'm not sure about the future of the English language department, though. There will certainly be less demand for it, so there could be some downsizing. Might see French become more of a... er... lingua franca, but English is still used a lot in business and spoken widely as a second language.

  4. #254
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2010
    Location: A Former Forest
    Seems like 1913 all over again. Not quite 1914 tough. Similar, but very different. Same players with similar aspirations. This time has a bit of unity. Heaven help the meek. Those that do not tow the line for the masters. Heaven help those that rely upon international bankers and their empty promises. And lastly, my heart felt sorrow for those that are displaced by the action. NAFTA killed my career. Good luck with your EU debacle. If you're are a professional, expect to be laid off, or given a chance to work for 45% of pay. Best of luck. Tick tock...

    Oh wait, as you all slumber... the tide has turned. See BREXIT is on. Hum? What to make out of this? I will be watching.
    Last edited by bjack; 24th Jun 2016 at 00:16.

  5. #255
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    So I saw elsewhere that the British pound is taking a beating the likes of which it's never taken in its thousand year history. Now explain to me, ignorant USian that I am, what exactly this accomplishes beyond giving a general warm fuzziness in the cockles of the English nationalists' hearts? From what I gather, the only thing the EU controls is trade and workers rights laws among its member countries. So why is everyone screaming about this being a victory for sovereignty?

  6. #256
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2009
    Location: The Spiraling Sea
    Yeah, it's definitely over, folks...All of the news outlets have called it, and Birmingham has voted for Leave

    --- BBC Realtime EU Referendum Results ---

    Predicted Result = 52% Leave, 48% Remain

  7. #257
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    So why is everyone screaming about this being a victory for sovereignty?
    Um, see, now the UK can make its own trade deals all over again. Y'know, the ones that have been painstakingly put together over the decades with the EU. Except this time it will be as a proud independent country instead of one of the biggest members in one of the biggest markets in the world.

  8. #258
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: East Coast Elite :D
    I feel bad for whoever is the next scapegoat after this doesn't magically solve peoples perceived problems. Fear and anger always need find a focal point.

  9. #259
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Cameron, most likely. Even if he somehow survives this, I don't expect him to have a bright future in politics.

  10. #260
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Quote Originally Posted by Starker View Post
    Um, see, now the UK can make its own trade deals all over again. Y'know, the ones that have been painstakingly put together over the decades with the EU. Except this time it will be as a proud independent country instead of one of the biggest members in one of the biggest markets in the world.
    So basically this was nothing more than a masturbatory excursion that could end up having some dire consequences of the UK economy. SOUNDS GRAND!

  11. #261
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2009
    Location: The Spiraling Sea
    As expected, there will be high volatility for a while.
    Last edited by Vae; 24th Jun 2016 at 00:36.

  12. #262
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    So basically this was nothing more than a masturbatory excursion that could end up having some dire consequences of the UK economy. SOUNDS GRAND!
    Well, it can also cut some red tape like workers rights, safety regulations and environmental protection stuff.

  13. #263
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Hmm... now Sinn Fein calls for reunification...

  14. #264
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Their "own trade deals" must be code for closing markets as tightly as possible until UK businesses are selling to a few sheepherders in Abruzzo.
    Volatility for a while; deflationary trap indefinitely.

  15. #265
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2004
    also seems it's done. UK is leaving. Well...

    By the way, stupid question: is Brexit vote by Britain OR whole UK? i.e. is north Ireland/Scotland/Wales going to leave too or just Britain?

  16. #266
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2009
    Location: The Spiraling Sea
    The Brexit vote was for the whole UK.

  17. #267
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    The whole UK. Which is why there is talk of Scotland and NI going their own way.

  18. #268
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Starker View Post
    Well, it can also cut some red tape like workers rights, safety regulations and environmental protection stuff.
    They could - but such actions could even further damage its EU trade (since the EU has rules about its trading partners that look a lot like its internal rules), which is, to put it mildly, not good for the U.K.'s GDP. London is a major financial center for the EU, if that becomes an even slightly uphill proposition, the listings will quickly migrate to France, Germany, whatever. That would basically look like a major transfer of income (specifically brokerage and other financial transaction fees) from the UK to the (remaining) EU.

    EDIT: Wait, Northern Ireland is considering splitting from the UK? Presumably without joining the rest of Ireland, I would guess? Would they form their own little country? Join Scotland?

  19. #269
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2009
    Location: The Spiraling Sea
    For anyone still holding on to hope...It is now mathematically impossible for Remain to win.

  20. #270
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrian View Post
    EDIT: Wait, Northern Ireland is considering splitting from the UK? Presumably without joining the rest of Ireland, I would guess? Would they form their own little country? Join Scotland?
    The idea is reunification, of course.

    As for relations with the EU, I don't see much hope for them remaining good. EU won't be likely to offer UK a good deal because they would want to dissuade others from leaving. Far right forces in the EU are unlikely to miss the opportunity to get their countries to follow UK's lead.
    Last edited by Starker; 24th Jun 2016 at 01:36.

  21. #271
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2002
    Location: Pacific Northwest
    Eustados Unidos says goodbye UK....

    WAIT

  22. #272
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2009
    Location: The Spiraling Sea
    Farage's first words on Brexit win...


  23. #273
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2010
    Location: A Former Forest
    The UK left the EU? So what? They never were really in it. Not really. Oh you can say that they were in it, unless you put your money where your mouth is... The Pound never became the Euro. The UK was always 1/2 in an 1/2 out, with a varied degree of in and out over the last decade. Time for Scotland, Wales, and No. Ireland to bail, if they choose to. Freedom baby! Yeah!

  24. #274
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Landahn
    Unlike SOME here, I've still got my German passport, at least...

  25. #275
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2009
    Location: The Spiraling Sea
    Final Results...UK Votes to LEAVE the EU


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