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  1. #10626
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2009
    Location: The Spiraling Sea
    *** BREAKING NEWS ***

    *** THIS IS A PEE TAPE ALERT ***

    Good News!...We've caught up with those hookers involved in Drumpf's dastardly deed!...



    What do we want?!...

    THE PEE TAPE!...

    When do we want it?!...

    RIGHT NOW!...

  2. #10627
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    I'd settle for Trump the rapist behind bars. You still defending him, Vae?

  3. #10628
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    I only said that Tony didn't know how to google, because the alternative would be quite a lot worse. But point taken, Renz. I'll try to be constructive, then, to make up for it, and lay out a couple of basic things about googling to show why I think Tony is bad at it.

    So, why was Tony able to get just one result where I got 34 results on my first try? To google things effectively, you need to be able to narrow things down as well as exclude less useful results, and Google gives you quite a few tools for that. For example, encasing (a part of) your search in quotes is a good way to do it, because it searches only for the exact phrase within the quotes. However, you have to think a bit about what to search for. Would the phrase be something that's actually used? In our case, "tim pool" is a good enough of a specific phrase that someone would realistically use and that would exclude quite a lot of irrelevant results, so let's use that as our starting point. But we need to be quite a bit more specific than that and search its appearance on one particular site. Luckily, Google has a syntax exactly for that purpose. For example, to search TTLG, you can include site:ttlg.com in the search and it will only search this domain.

    Just these two simple things will improve the results immensely, though this doesn't necessarily mean that Google is able to find all the results and it might actually be a better idea to just use the site's own search engine. Of course, that still leaves being able to critically evaluate sources and to comprehend them, but that's a topic for another day.

    Now, the question remains, did Tony know all this and was simply too lazy to make use of it? When he writes that Tim Pool is one of the co-founders of Vice, does he just not know that it's not true or does he knowingly lie to add prestige to his source? He keeps doing things like these again and again and it makes it really difficult to gauge whether he just doesn't know better of whether he is being deliberately misleading. I've been inclined to take the more charitable interpretation, but even the most disinterested of my students have eventually picked up on at least some things through sheer accident or constant repetition, and Tony has had these things pointed out to him over and over and over without any improvement whatsoever.

  4. #10629
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Deep inside mediocrity
    Am I allowed to say that Trump is retarded on this site or is that too much of an insult to those with mental handicap?

  5. #10630
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    We prefer you say "brain damaged fuckshit" if at all possible.

  6. #10631
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Deep inside mediocrity
    I can get on board with that. It's nice to know there is still a safe space in the Interwebs where I can make political statements without being Zucked.

  7. #10632
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Politics are just as in play here as anywhere else on the internet. We're hardly exempt.

    Just, you know, be considerate when consideration is called for, and try not to be annoying, and you'll do fine.

  8. #10633
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Follow-up on Epstein:

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffre...hattan-mansion

    Federal authorities revealed Monday that a raid on Jeffrey Epstein’s Manhattan mansion turned up hundreds of nude photos of girls and young women—and notes and messages that allegedly back up new sex-trafficking charges against him.

    The details were disclosed in a memo filed by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Manhattan laying out its reasons for asking the court to hold the billionaire financier without bail until trial.

    It said Epstein’s vast wealth and international holdings make him an “extreme flight risk”—and noted that he is in serious jeopardy of spending the rest of his life behind bars because of the evidence against him.

    To that end, prosecutors outlined some of the material it has gathered to corroborate allegations that Epstein paid underage girls for sex acts and then turned some of them into recruiters to bring him more victims.

    A raid on his Upper East Side residence, which is said to be worth $77 million, yielded “an extraordinary volume of photographs of nude and partially-nude young women or girls,” the memo states.

    It said Epstein, a registered sex offender had “hundreds—and perhaps thousands—of sexually suggestive photographs of fully- or partially- nude females,” and some of them appear to be of underage girls.

    Some were in a locked safe that contained CDs labeled “Misc nudes 1,” and “Girl pics nude,” or even individual names, prosecutors said.

    The evidence, however, is not limited to the photos.

    “Such corroborating evidence also includes documents and other materials, such as contemporaneous notes, messages recovered from the defendant’s residence that include names and contact information for certain victims, and call records that confirm the defendant and his agents were repeatedly in contact with various victims during the charged period.”

    The prosecutors argued that evidence, along with the testimony of the alleged victims, “will be devastating evidence of guilt at any trial in this case and weighs heavily in favor of detention.”

    Photos of nude girls were also found during a 2005 raid on Epstein’s Palm Beach, Florida, mansion—but he never went to trial then. Instead, federal prosecutors in Miami allowed him to plead guilty to a state prostitution charge—a deal that is now under investigation.
    [...]
    One curious thing is that the case is handled by the Southern District of New York's public corruption unit, which has led people to speculate that maybe it will target some of Epstein's famous friends who took part in his crimes or perhaps the prosecutors and defense lawyers who mishandled his case in Florida (who are also public officials and therefore fall in the PCU's sphere of interest).

    Also, more than a good chance of a superseding indictment:

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile...rruption-unit/

    A few things about this stuck out to criminal defense lawyer and Law&Crime trial analyst Gene Rossi. First and foremost, it’s “extremely bad news” for Epstein that the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York is involved.

    “They don’t play nice,” Rossi told Law&Crime in a phone interview Sunday.

    Also, it means that other charges are possible. It could mean money laundering, public corruption, or tax-related charges.

    “Who knows?” he said. “The sky’s the limit.”

    He said it would be a surprise if the case only involved the sex trafficking charges.

  9. #10634
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    If this is true, it's kind of hilarious, considering how often Seth Rich's death is used as an example of The Clinton Conspiracy.

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-for-dnc-hack/

    Though of course it could just be the Deep State posting disinformation about Russians posting disinformation in order to de-inform a population meant to be kept in the dark about the secret dealings of our inner circle elites. It's all rabbit holes within rabbit holes within rabbit holes, yall.

  10. #10635
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Speaking of Russia, Cristopher Steele was interviewed as part of the investigate the investigators campaign that's suddenly popular after the Justice Department got a new, overtly partisan leader:

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...er-doj-1403318

    Christopher Steele, the former British spy behind the infamous “dossier” on President Donald Trump’s ties to Russia, was interviewed for 16 hours in June by the Justice Department’s internal watchdog, according to two people familiar with the matter.

    The interview is part of an ongoing investigation that the Justice Department’s inspector general, Michael Horowitz, has been conducting for the past year. Specifically, Horowitz has been examining the FBI’s efforts to surveil a one-time Trump campaign adviser based in part on information from Steele, an ex-British MI6 agent who had worked with the bureau as a confidential source since 2010.

    Horowitz’s team has been intensely focused on gauging Steele’s credibility as a source for the bureau. But Steele was initially reluctant to speak with the American investigators because of the potential impropriety of his involvement in an internal DOJ probe as a foreign national and retired British intelligence agent.

    Steele’s allies have also repeatedly noted that the dossier was not the original basis for the FBI’s probe into Trump and Russia.

    The extensive, two-day interview took place in London while Trump was in Britain for a state visit, the sources said, and delved into Steele’s extensive work on Russian interference efforts globally, his intelligence-collection methods and his findings about Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, who the FBI ultimately surveilled. The FBI’s decision to seek a surveillance warrant against Page — a warrant they applied for and obtained after Page had already left the campaign — is the chief focus of the probe by Horowitz.

    The interview was contentious at first, the sources added, but investigators ultimately found Steele’s testimony credible and even surprising. The takeaway has irked some U.S. officials interviewed as part of the probe — they argue that it shouldn’t have taken a foreign national to convince the inspector general that the FBI acted properly in 2016. Steele’s American lawyer was present for the conversation.

    [...]

    Page had been on the FBI’s radar since 2013, when he interacted with undercover Russian intelligence agents in New York City. A trip to Moscow in the summer of 2016 further aroused the bureau’s suspicions, according to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant the FBI got approved in October 2016, allowing the bureau to intercept his electronic communications.

    Steele’s defenders have noted that the information he provided which made it into the FISA warrant application to monitor Page was not far off. According to Steele’s sources, Page met with high-level Russian officials while in Moscow in July 2016, including the CEO of Russia’s state-owned oil giant Rosneft.

    Page denied the claim publicly until pressed under oath by lawmakers in 2017, when he acknowledged meeting “senior members of the presidential administration” during his trip, as well as the head of investor relations at Rosneft. Page had originally claimed only that he went to Moscow to give the commencement address at the New Economic School.

  11. #10636
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Lord Dampnut apparently feels very badly... for the man who helped Epstein get off and in the process broke the law by keeping the deal secret from the victims:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...icking-charges

    “I feel very badly actually for secretary Acosta because I’ve known him as being somebody that works so hard and has done such a good job,”
    I'm glad that I still live in a country where a minister like that not only would have stepped down voluntarily, but would face the equivalent of impeachment proceedings otherwise. Seriously, how spineless can the Democrats get?

    The House speaker, Nancy Pelosi, tweeted that Trump had all the information he needed to make a decision about Acosta.

    “Secretary Acosta must step down,” she wrote. “As US attorney, he engaged in an unconscionable agreement with Jeffrey Epstein kept secret from courageous, young victims preventing them from seeking justice. This was known by [Trump] when he appointed him to the cabinet.”

    But Pelosi stopped short of calling for a congressional investigation.

    “It’s up to the president, it’s his cabinet,” she told reporters. “We have a great deal of work to do here for the good of the American people and we have to focus on that.”
    Last edited by Starker; 9th Jul 2019 at 23:22.

  12. #10637
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    As if Brexit wasn't enough, the UK now faces an even greater task:

    https://www.newyorker.com/humor/boro...mp-is-an-idiot

    LONDON (The Borowitz Report)—Following the resignation of its Ambassador to the United States, Kim Darroch, the government of the United Kingdom has disclosed that it has been unable to find a replacement for Darroch who does not also think that Donald J. Trump is a blithering idiot.

    At a press conference at 10 Downing Street, the British Prime Minister, Theresa May, revealed that the search for a new ambassador who does not believe that Trump is an imbecile has thus far come up empty.

    “We did not want a repeat of the unfortunate Kim Darroch incident, so we made the first question on the job application, ‘Do you think Donald Trump is a moron?’ ” May said. “So far, none of the applicants has checked the ‘no’ box.”

    May acknowledged that the government might have to expand its search for applicants beyond those with diplomatic experience in order to find a replacement for Darroch who does not consider Trump a dolt.

    “We will search high and low until we find someone in this country who doesn’t think Donald Trump is a nitwit,” she said. “We’re starting by interviewing people who don’t think Boris Johnson is a nitwit.”

    While affirming her government’s determination to find someone in the U.K. who does not think Trump is an unmitigated bonehead, May warned that the difficulty of the task must not be underestimated. “This is turning out to be harder than Brexit,” she said.

  13. #10638
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2000
    Location: Portreath Cornwall UK
    Has to he Farage


    Send in the clowns, to late by far.
    Last edited by Medlar; 11th Jul 2019 at 15:44.

  14. #10639
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Some group got Mark Bowden, the guy that wrote Black Hawk Down & Killing Pablo, to re-write the Mueller Report in a more narrative & readable form. And then they got the art director for Archer to illustrate it.

    It's definitely a ton more readable than the original report. The story always had lot of inherent drama from the start. This form actually draws on that to tell a good story, even aside from the fact that this should be essential reading for everyone wanting to talk about the fate of the Republic & all. So if you ever wanted to read it & get all the gory details, but didn't want to swim through all of its jargon, here's your chance. It's also worth sharing with people you think need to read it but need it in this kind of form to do so.

    Anyway, here it is: https://www.insider.com/mueller-repo...-archer-2019-7

  15. #10640
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Even as Epstein is finally facing justice, another one of Lord Dampnut's pedophile friends seems to think now is the right time for a comeback:

    https://floridapolitics.com/archives...y-for-comeback

    Mark Foley is ready to return to Congress, and the only things standing in his way may be reapportionment … and reputation.

    Responding to a May 29 Federal Election Commission inquiry as to why he was still spending 13-year-old campaign contributions, a representative for Foley indicated the West Palm Beach Republican kept his campaign account active because he is plotting another run for office and he “anticipates making a final decision sometime following the reapportionment resulting from the upcoming decennial census.”

    Foley, 64, resigned in disgrace in 2006 after he was caught sending lewd messages to underage boys who served as Congressional pages. He never faced any criminal charges related to the incident, and it took two years for him to apologize publicly.

    [...]

    Foley’s visibility has grown in South Florida in recent years, appearing at multiple events for Donald Trump, who also happens to be his friend and a frequent campaign donor. According to federal records, then-businessman Trump made a series of 10 contributions to Foley’s campaign between 1997 and 2006, totaling $9,500.

    It’s not clear if reputation or reapportionment are the biggest hurdles standing in the way of a Foley comeback; it could depend on how the Florida Legislature draws congressional districts ahead of the 2022 election.

    [...]

    Foley has declined recent requests for comment, but said in 2017, before the release of the “Zombie Campaign” investigation: “There’s a slim likelihood I could run for office again … the world’s changed, so I may one day want to run for a seat.”

    Polls show the nation’s opinions on same-sex relationships have evolved, but there’s not much polling when it comes to tolerance for adults who send inappropriate messages to underage teens.
    In other disturbing news, child abuse at the US Southern border is still continuing:


  16. #10641
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    Registered: Jun 2009
    Location: The Spiraling Sea


    What is going on here?......This must be a fake video manufactured by the Nazi Republicans, because otherwise our Democrat masters would be racist!...

    So that means, what the Dems say now is the truth about how orange man is racist for securing the border!...

  17. #10642
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2003
    Location: Location, Location
    Because the Democrats were definitely talking about blowing billions on a giant physical wall across the border and crowding thousands of people into barely habitable detention camps when they talked about their own desire for border security, right? It's the only possible course of action that exists!

    Straight-up, shameless propaganda, Vae. That's all you're giving us.

  18. #10643
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    You would pretty much only see a discrepancy if you buy into the bullshit idea that Democrats are for "open borders" and that they want to bring in as many immigrants as possible. Hell, Obama deported more immigrants than any other president in the history of the US.

    Anyway, that corporate welfare bill that was supposed to pay for itself has led the US to run out of cash:

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/12/p...sis/index.html

    Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin on Friday issued a warning Friday that the US government is at risk of running out of cash sooner than expected.

    [...]

    The federal government has not been able to borrow money since March, when congressionally-mandated borrowing limits went back into force. The US Treasury, which is facing a growing deficit thanks in part to President Donald Trump's 2017 tax cuts, had said it had enough cash to last until the fall.

  19. #10644
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Deep inside mediocrity
    This morning, while out on a bike ride, I saw a guy wearing a red MAGA hat. Up to this point I have only seen people in videos and photos wearing those hats. I think that I was creeped out and now I need therapy.

  20. #10645
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Hey, Starker. GMD wants to know why you're talking about satanic pedophile cults all the time. I think he might be concerned you've been caught up in something, and might need some help.

  21. #10646
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Tell Goldmoon that he can go back to sticking pins in his Qanon board and that there's nothing to worry about. Or is there? Maybe that's what they want you to think? Hmm...

  22. #10647
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Okay, I'll tell him.

  23. #10648
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2003
    Location: Cambridgeshire UK
    There is an interesting article in the Mail on Sunday, who have the British Ambassador's leaked memos. (Yes, it's a dodgy newspaper but they are the ones who have the leaked info.)

    Donald Trump abandoned the Iran nuclear deal as an act of ‘diplomatic vandalism’ to spite his predecessor Barack Obama, Britain’s Ambassador to Washington wrote in a bombshell memo to Downing Street.
    Full article here: https://tinyurl.com/y3jpe5k3

  24. #10649
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    I'm not sure it can be called bombshell when it's such an obvious point I'd worry more about an analyst that didn't conclude that. Obviously he did it to spite Obama. There's not an alternative logic that even makes sense, cf. criticizing Iran for reneging on the treaty before it was even signed.

  25. #10650
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2003
    Location: Cambridgeshire UK
    Yes, that's a typical example of what makes it a dodgy newspaper.

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