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  • 1 Term (4 Years)

    26 20.16%
  • 2 Terms (8 Years)

    40 31.01%
  • 1st Term Impeachment/Assassination

    47 36.43%
  • 2nd Term Impeachment/Assassination

    3 2.33%
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    13 10.08%
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  1. #11551
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    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    So Mexicans are invading us, and the Irish are invading you?

    I think we need to start putting the blame where the real blame is due: the catholic church.
    burn that shit to the ground.

  2. #11552
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    Registered: May 2004
    Oh, and of course Republicans have diligently worked to make sure that what happened to Nixon would never happen again:

    https://theintercept.com/2019/09/28/...xon-watergate/

    [...]
    At the beginning of Nixon’s second term in 1973, he told his chief of staff H.R. Haldeman that they needed to create “a new establishment.” This would first involve creating “our own news,” which would engage in “a brutal, vicious attack on the opposition.” The Nixon administration asked outside supporters to “buy a television network.” TV was perfect, according to an earlier White House memo titled “A Plan for Putting the GOP on TV News.” Why? Because “People are lazy. With television you just sit — watch — listen. The thinking is done for you.” Roger Ailes, then an outside adviser to the Nixon administration, responded that this concept was an “excellent idea” that “should be expanded.”

    Then there was the judiciary. Shortly before Nixon nominated corporate lawyer Lewis Powell to the Supreme Court in 1971, Powell promulgated a detailed manifesto explaining that “the judiciary may be the most important instrument for social, economic and political change” — one that for the corporate right was “a vast area of opportunity.” John Ehrlichman, another Nixon aide, later wrote in 1982 that the president had wanted to fill the court with “young justices who would sit and rule in [his] own image.”

    Over the next several decades, Nixon’s dream became a reality, led by Ailes and Simon. Ailes’s story is well known.

    Post-Nixon, Ailes soon became news director of “Television News Incorporated” with funding from ultra-conservative beer magnate Joseph Coors. He later worked for Reagan, and then founded Fox News with Rupert Murdoch.

    Simon’s efforts are less recognized but equally significant. After Nixon’s ouster, Simon became a leveraged buyout specialist on Wall Street while also serving as president of the conservative Olin Foundation from 1977 until his death in 2000. “The only thing that can save the Republican Party,” Simon stated, “is a counter-intelligentsia.” So he set about creating one.

    “Funds generated by business,” Simon said in 1978, “must rush by the multimillions … to scholars, social scientists, writers and journalists.” With his help, they did: Simon organized the flow of hundreds of millions of dollars out of Olin and other conservative foundations.

    The National Review later described the Olin Foundation “as a source of venture capital for the vast right-wing conspiracy.” It helped support what became marquee names on the right: Linda Chavez, Irving Kristol, Charles Murray, and Dinesh D’Souza, as well as numerous professors, and think tanks like the Heritage Foundation and the Manhattan Institute.

    Most significantly, Olin helped nurture the Federalist Society, which grew out of a 1982 conference of conservative law students and professors. As Fox News is to milquetoast corporate news outlets, the Federalist Society is to the American Bar Association. Membership in the Federalist Society demonstrates, as Politico puts it, that if nominated for a judgeship, a Republican lawyer will not “‘drift’ to the left” once seated. It is now close to a litmus test for judicial appointments by Republican presidents. Five justices on the current Supreme Court, including Trump nominees Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh, are current or past members. At last count, the same was true for 25 of Trump’s 30 appointees to the federal appeals courts.

    The power of this counter-establishment was notable even when it was in its embryonic stages during the Iran-contra scandal in the late 1980s. Reagan had almost certainly committed impeachable offenses by engaging in a byzantine scheme to secretly sell arms to Iran in hopes of using the proceeds to fund the Nicaraguan contras.

    The special prosecutor appointed to look into this, Lawrence Walsh, was a Republican, and conservative enough that 15 years previously, Nixon had hoped Walsh might be chosen to investigate Watergate. But now there was Rush Limbaugh and the Washington Times, which relentlessly attacked Walsh as the second coming of Alger Hiss. Without the instructions from Limbaugh and the Washington Times, the Republican grassroots might have grown confused and disheartened, knuckling under to whatever the Democrats wanted. With them, Republican politicians heard constantly that they had to stop this liberal zealot from impeaching Reagan or Bush.

    The right’s judicial push bore fruit as well. Walsh secured convictions of Oliver North and John Poindexter. However, Walsh later wrote, “a powerful band of Republican appointees waited like the strategic reserves of an embattled army.” The convictions were overturned with key votes from three judges on the D.C. appellate court — all appointed by Reagan, all members of the Federalist Society.

    Thus thanks to the new counter-establishment, what could have been a mortal threat to Reagan and Bush became merely an inconvenience. And that was 30 years ago. Like a small amount of bacteria exploding exponentially in a patient with a weakened immune system, the conservative counter-establishment has taken over the host organism and become the establishment itself. Millions of Republican voters are told in loving detail why all the accusations made against Trump are damnable Democratic lies. There may be, as former Arizona GOP senator Jeff Flake claims, 35 Republican senators who’d vote to impeach Trump if they could do so in secret. But they can’t. It’s difficult to imagine any will fear being primaried for being insufficiently supportive of Trump less than the consequences of sticking with him.

    So Nixon might have lost 45 years ago. But Nixon’s vision has almost certainly won, all to the benefit of a president even more venal than he was.
    And there you have the result:

  3. #11553
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Quote Originally Posted by Starker View Post
    And there you have the result
    All politicians in the 1950's: Any party that panders exclusively to the ultra rich won't ever win any elections.

    Barry Goldwater: Hold my beer.

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