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    26 19.26%
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    43 31.85%
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    49 36.30%
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    4 2.96%
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    13 9.63%

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  1. #11926
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    As a further example of the lack of journalistic integrity of people like Cernovich, another (now former) Infowars staffer talks about what it was like to work for Alex Jones:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/05/m...-infowars.html

    [...]
    In December 2015, the day before Jones interviewed Donald Trump, still a candidate at the time, on his radio show, I made my way to upstate New York on assignment, along with a reporter and second cameraman. We were sent to visit Muslim-majority communities throughout the United States to investigate what Jones instructed us to call “the American Caliphate.” After the California Geiger-counter debacle, we had meetings with Jones before trips in order to ascertain exactly what he wanted. If we “hit some home runs,” he said, we would get significant bonuses.

    We landed in Newark at 12:30 p.m. on Dec. 1, 2015. The first stop was Islamberg, a Muslim community three hours north of Manhattan. It was founded in the 1980s by mostly African-American followers of a Pakistani cleric named Mubarik Ali Shah Gilani, who encouraged devotees of his conservative brand of Sufi Islam to establish small settlements across the rural United States. Gilani was suspected of association with the organization Jamaat ul-Fuqra, which was briefly designated as a terrorist group by the State Department in the 1990s; Gilani has denied any connection to the group. His followers in Islamberg had no record of violence, and some of them had denounced the Islamic State in an interview with Reuters earlier that year, saying they didn’t believe Islamic State members to be real Muslims. But unfounded rumors circulated around far-right corners of the internet that this community was a potential terrorist-training center. Jones, who thought the media consistently ingratiated themselves with Islamic extremists, believed them.

    We pulled in, unannounced, to a dirt drive leading to the community, stopping at a flimsy cattle gate guarded by two men. The reporter, wearing a hidden camera, approached the entrance as we filmed the interaction from the vehicle. The men were calm and polite, if a little suspicious — reasonable given the circumstances. They denied our entry into Islamberg but took our number and told us we could return after they verified who we were.

    It was only later, after listening to the audio from the reporter’s hidden camera, that I heard what he told the two men guarding the gate. “Basically, what we do is, we go around, and we do videos debunking claims of stuff,” the reporter said. “The word is, people say this is some kind of training camp, so we wanted to come in and get some footage and kind of put that whole rumor to rest.”

    He gave them his real name — a name that, with a quick Google search, would lead back to Infowars, with its headlines like “Inside Sources: Bin Laden’s Corpse Has Been on Ice for Nearly a Decade,” “Special Report: Why Obama Brought Ebola to U.S. Exposed” and “VIDEO: ‘Demon’ Caught on Camera During Obama Visit?” Those headlines could be described by many words, but none of them would be “debunking.”

    Because of the conspiracy theories about the place, Islamberg was a constant target of right-wing extremists. That April, a Tennessee man was arrested and later convicted of plotting to raise a militia to burn Islamberg’s mosque to the ground. Only days before we arrived, the F.B.I. issued an alert to law enforcement to be on the lookout for a man named Jon Ritzheimer, the leader of an anti-Muslim movement in Arizona who posted a video threatening violence against Muslims less than two weeks earlier. In the video, he brandished a handgun, saying: “I’m urging all Americans across the U.S. everywhere in public, start carrying a slung rifle with you, everywhere. Don’t be a victim in your own country.”

    So the phone call we received later that night from a law-enforcement agent shouldn’t have come as a surprise. The officer who contacted us said he simply wanted to verify who we were after receiving a concerned call from someone in Islamberg. We told Jones about it, and he chose to believe the call was a veiled threat, an attempt to intimidate us into silence. To him, this verified that we were onto something. He even went so far as to include Michael Bloomberg, the former mayor of New York City, in the purported conspiracy, claiming he wanted to abolish the Second Amendment — and that somehow intimidating us would achieve that.

    Jones told us to file a story that accused the police of harassment, lending credence to the theory that this community contained dangerous, potential terrorists. I knew this wasn’t the case according to the information we had. We all did. Days before, we spoke to the sheriff and the mayor of Deposit, N.Y., a nearby municipality. They both told us the people in Islamberg were kind, generous neighbors who welcomed the surrounding community into their homes, even celebrating holidays together.

    The information did not meet our expectations, so we made it up, preying on the vulnerable and feeding the prejudices and fears of Jones’s audience. We ignored certain facts, fabricated others and took situations out of context to fit our narrative, posting headlines like:

    Drone Investigates Islamic Training Center

    Shariah Law Zones Confirmed in America

    Infowars Reporters Stalked by Terrorism Task Force

    Report: Obama’s Terror Cells in the U.S.

    The Rumors Are True: Shariah Law Is Here!

    Our next stop was Hamtramck, a Muslim-majority city embedded within Detroit that alarmists in neighboring communities called Shariahville. As we headed west, my phone vibrated, and a news alert appeared on the screen. There were reports that a mass shooting that week in San Bernardino, Calif., had been perpetrated by Islamic extremists, making it at the time the deadliest Islamic attack in the United States since Sept. 11.

    I knew that when the details emerged, they would substantiate the lies we pushed to Jones’s audience. It didn’t matter if the attack took place on the other side of the country or if the people in Islamberg had no connection to the perpetrators in San Bernardino. Jones’s listeners would draw imaginary lines between the two, and we were helping them do it.

    [...]

    There wasn’t a single moment that persuaded me to leave, but there was a turning point: a moment that stuck with me long after it happened. I thought of it as I sat next to Jones speeding recklessly down the highway on Election Day, when I walked out of the office for the last time and when I decided to sit down and write this article.

    It was early morning, and we were headed back to Austin after the trip that began in Islamberg. As we boarded our flight, I took my window seat close to the rear of the plane. An older woman wearing a hijab sat next to me. With her was a young girl, giddy with excitement, who bounced in the middle seat, holding a bag of pretzels. The woman leaned over and asked if I would let the girl sit by the window. “This is her first time on a plane,” she said. I agreed and moved my bag from under the seat.

    I thought of the children who lived in Islamberg: how afraid their families must have felt when their communities were threatened and strangers appeared asking questions; how we chose to look past these people as individuals and impose on them more of the same unfair suspicions they already had to endure. And for what? Clickbait headlines, YouTube views?

    As I sat on the aisle, the plane now lifting up into the pale blue sky, I glanced over at the little girl staring out the window in wonder, her face glowing from the light reflecting off the clouds. She was amazed, joyful, innocent, carefree and completely unaware of the world beneath her.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/01/22/68756...ted-police-say

    Police in upstate New York have arrested three men and a 16-year-old youth on weapons and conspiracy charges. The four allegedly plotted a bomb attack against an Islamic community. At a news conference Tuesday, police chief Patrick Phelan from Greece, N.Y., a suburb outside Rochester, said the suspects assembled an arsenal including more than 20 firearms and three improvised explosive devices.

    "There was a plan to attack this community with weapons," Phelan said. "If they had carried out this plot — and there's every indication is that they were going to — people would have died. I don't know how many and who, but people would have died."

    [...]

    In recent years Islamberg has become the target of suspicion and conspiracy theories among right-wing groups and conservative media, including the Alex Jones program Infowars. One broadcast on Fox News suggested that people in the Islamic "compound" were "stockpiling guns" in response to the election of President Trump.

    In 2017 a Tennessee man was sent to federal prison for nearly 20 years after plotting to burn down Islamberg's mosque and school. At the time, then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions described the plot as an attack on religious freedom. "People of all faiths have the fundamental right to worship freely, and this administration will not tolerate attempts to violate that right," Sessions said.

    State police and the FBI have regularly debunked claims that Islamberg poses a danger to the wider community. Still, anti-Muslim activists regularly hold protests nearby. Lisa Joseph, a conservative activist from Syracuse, joined a rally in 2017 and told NPR that she would "not tolerate ISIS training camps, militant-style training camps, radicalized training camps" in upstate New York.
    [...]

  2. #11927
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    The greatest thing about being Alex Jones? You can get away with anything, because you've been cultivating paranoia for so long, if someone does an expose of your behind-the-scenes antics, you can deny it by saying it's a bunch of lies perpetrated by the Deep State. AND YOUR FANBASE WILL BELIEVE YOU!

    I mean, hell, it worked for when he got kicked off of Facebook and Youtube. That just about marked the moment when all the chucklefucks started screaming about liberals censoring conservatives.

    Which reminds me, if I see one more idiot try to be edgy with the newspeak, claiming they're victims of "wrongthink" or something like when someone calls them out for their BS, I'll be pretty tempted to double-plus fucking shoot myself.

  3. #11928
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Yes, he's just a humble water filter salesman who wants to entertain people by saying stuff like the parents of children killed in Sandy Hook faked the whole thing.

  4. #11929
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2010
    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrian View Post
    Lol. He was the head, insofar as you redefine head to mean whatever you need it to mean, for him to be it. Got it. I mean, really, you could've just said "technical director" in the first place; it's not like it's central to the argument. Or, admitted you were wrong. You know, like people who actually care about facts do.
    If you think that the man who DESIGNED THE NSA SOFTWARE ARCHITECTURE was not the HEAD OF THE NSA then you are willfully blind to the truth.

    IT IS CENTRAL TO THE ARGUMENT BECAUSE THE ARGUMENT IS EMPIRICAL!!! AND BILL BINNEY CAN JUST OPEN PALANTIR \ XKEYSTORE AND QUERY THE ACTUAL COLLECTED DATA.

    BECAUSE HE WROTE THE DAMN SOFTWARE!!!

    YOU CAN LITERALLY GATHER "IT FORENSICS" ON ALL INVOLVED PARTIES AND FIND OUT THE TRUTH DIGITALLY INSTEAD OF "INFERRING"
    WHAT HAPPENED FROM SECOND HAND "REPORTS" AND WITNESS TESTIMONY.

    BUT WHATEVER.

    ALLOW THE CIA CONTROLLED MEDIA TO CALL "REAL WHISTLEBLOWERS" LIKE SNOWDEN, ASSANGE, BINNEY, SHIP, SOLOMON, ETC "CONSPIRACY NUTS".

  5. #11930
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    He was technical director, Nbhor. That's quite a bit different than being the head.

  6. #11931
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2010
    They opted not to include his modifications which limited the scope of what was collected.

    It doesn't matter, even a low level secretary can use Palantir to query a collections database. Bill can certainly go deeper than that...

  7. #11932
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    It seems that Binney has recanted his initial statement.

    Some former intelligence officials, from a group called Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), backed up the claim. A group, including William Binney, a former technical director at the US National Security Agency (NSA), and former CIA officer Ray McGovern, were persuaded, without checking the file data, to say that the hacking was the work of insiders.

    According to former NSA technical manager Tom Drake, “Ray’s determination to publish claims he wanted to believe without checking facts and discarding evidence he didn’t want to hear exactly reproduced the Iraq war intelligence failures which the VIPS group was formed to oppose”. He and other VIPS members refused to sign McGovern’s report.

    But the VIPS endorsement was repeated by American media, from respected left-wing publication The Nation to controversial right-wing site Breitbart News. The ploy succeeded – and made it to the White House. Binney was invited on to Fox News and said allegations that Russia had hacked the DNC were unproven. Trump then told CIA director Mike Pompeo to see Binney to find evidence to support the claims. Pompeo met with Binney on 24 October 2017.

    Binney said he told the CIA chief that he had no fresh information. But he said he knew where to look – in the surveillance databases of his former intelligence agency, NSA.

    As a former top NSA insider, Binney was correct, but not in the way he expected. NSA’s top secret records, disclosed in the DoJ indictment earlier this month, lifted the lid on what the Russians did and how they did it.

    A month after visiting CIA headquarters, Binney came to Britain. After re-examining the data in Guccifer 2.0 files thoroughly with the author of this article, Binney changed his mind. He said there was “no evidence to prove where the download/copy was done”. The Guccifer 2.0 files analysed by Leonard’s g-2.space were “manipulated”, he said, and a “fabrication”.

  8. #11933
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Though, admittedly, this could be a fake news article planted by the Deep State. I mean, you just can't tell these days.

  9. #11934
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2010
    That 2018 article is contradicted by this 2019 video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjHs-E2e2V4

    The writer of the article also seems pretty hell-bent on doxxing and smearing the forensicator author along with
    any site or forum that isn't DNC narrative aligned.

    Interesting author, "cleared" Pete Townsend of Child Porn charges:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan...2005_and_2007)

    I wonder if he ever visited Epstein's island...

  10. #11935
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: Qantas
    The head of the NSA is the Director of the NSA, that was Gen. Hayden when Binney retired. Binney was A technical director, not THE technical director. He retired disgruntled because his data analytics program was shelved in favor of a competing approach that Hayden supported. He's more crank than whistleblower.

    Publicly mouthing off about the agency's collection ability eventually caused him to lose his security clearance (in 2007 I think?). So by 2016, he had been out of the NSA for 15 years and out of the intelligence world for nearly 10. And I haven't found any credible source that suggests he has any background in cybersecurity or that he can code.

  11. #11936
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Robert Reich, the secretary of labor under Clinton, pens the latest instalment to fall under the category of "drain the swamp":

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...mocracy-decade

    Trump is the natural consequence of our anti-democracy decade

    We’re coming to the end of what might be called the anti-democracy decade. It began on 21 January 2010 with the supreme court’s shameful decision in Citizens United vs Federal Election Commission, opening the floodgates to big money in politics with the absurd claim that the first amendment protects corporate speech.

    It ends with Donald Trump in the White House, filling his administration with corporate shills and inviting foreign powers to interfere in American elections.

    Trump is the consequence rather than the cause of the anti-democratic decade. By the 2016 election, the richest 100th of 1% of Americans – 24,949 very wealthy people – accounted for a record-breaking 40% of all campaign contributions.

    That same year, corporations flooded the presidential, Senate and House elections with $3.4bn in donations. Labor unions no longer provided any countervailing power, contributing only $213m – one union dollar for every 16 corporate.

    Big corporations and the super-wealthy lavished their donations on the Republican party because Republicans promised them a giant tax cut. As Lindsey Graham warned his colleagues, “financial contributions will stop” if the GOP didn’t come through.

    The investments paid off big. Pfizer, whose 2016 contributions to the GOP totaled $16m, will reap an estimated $39bn in tax savings by 2022. GE contributed $20m and will get back $16bn. Chevron donated $13m and will receive $9bn.

    Groups supported by Charles and the late David Koch spent more than $20m promoting the tax cut, which will save them and their heirs between $1bn and $1.4bn every year.

    Not even a sizzling economy could match these returns.

    The tax cut has contributed to record corporate profits but almost nothing has trickled down. Companies have spent most of their extra cash on stock buybacks and dividends. This has given the stock market a sugar high but left little for average workers.

    Such workers have been shafted. Despite the longest economic expansion in modern history, real wages have barely risen. The share of corporate profits going to workers still isn’t back to where it was before the 2008 financial crisis. Never in the history of economic data have corporate profits outgrown employee compensation so clearly and for so long.

    The so-called “free market” has been taken over by crony capitalism, corporate bailouts and corporate welfare.

    Citizens United itself is a corporate front group, founded by a Washington political consultant and backed by major funding from the Kochs. In 2008 it sought to broadcast TV ads for a film criticizing Hillary Clinton, in direct violation of the 2002 McCain-Feingold Act, which barred corporations from buying ads mentioning candidates immediately preceding elections.

    After the case made it to the supreme court, Justice Anthony Kennedy – defying all logic and reason – declared for the court that “independent expenditures, including those made by corporations, do not give rise to corruption or the appearance of corruption”.

    Tell that to most Americans. Confidence in political institutions has plummeted. In 1964, just 29% of Americans believed government was “run by a few big interests looking out for themselves”. By 2013, 79% believed it. In Rasmussen polls in autumn 2014, 63% thought most members of Congress were willing to sell their vote for either cash or a campaign contribution and 59% thought it likely their representative already had.

    Enter Trump.

    “Big business, elite media and major donors are lining up behind the campaign of my opponent because they know she will keep our rigged system in place,” he charged at the Republican convention in 2016.

    He then rode the rigging all the way into the Oval Office.

    It doesn’t have to be this way. Even if Citizens United isn’t reversed by the supreme court or defanged by a constitutional amendment, a principled Congress and decent president could still rescue our democracy.

    House Democrats have begun with their For the People Act, the first legislation they introduced when they gained a majority. It expands voting rights, limits partisan gerrymandering, strengthens ethics rules and limits the influence of private donor money by providing $6 of public financing for every $1 of small donations, up to $200, raised by participating candidates.

    On the other hand, a second Trump term could make the anti-democracy decade a mere prelude to the wholesale destruction of American democracy.

    Trump couldn’t care less. As he said in 2016: “I give money to everybody, even the Clintons, because that’s how the system works.”

    These might have been the most honest words ever to come out of his mouth.

  12. #11937
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Continued...

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...jewelry-077761

    A top Trump health appointee sought to have taxpayers reimburse her for the costs of jewelry, clothing and other possessions, including a $5,900 Ivanka Trump-brand pendant, that were stolen while in her luggage during a work-related trip, according to documents obtained by POLITICO.

    Seema Verma, who runs the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, filed a $47,000 claim for lost property on Aug. 20, 2018, after her bags were stolen while she was giving a speech in San Francisco the prior month. The property was not insured, Verma wrote in her filing to the Health and Human Services department.

    The federal health department ultimately reimbursed Verma $2,852.40 for her claim, a CMS spokesperson said.

    Verma’s claim included $43,065 for about two dozen pieces of jewelry, based off an appraisal she'd received from a jeweler about three weeks after the theft. Among Verma's stolen jewelry was an Ivanka Trump-brand pendant, made of gold, prasiolite and diamonds, that Verma’s jeweler valued at $5,900.

    Verma’s claim also included about $2,000 to cover the cost of her stolen clothes and another $2,000 to cover the cost of other stolen goods, including a $325 claim for moisturizer and a $349 claim for noise-cancelling headphones.

    A spokesperson for the Department of Health and Human Services, which includes CMS, said the department has a longstanding policy of paying for certain goods when they are lost during a work trip, so long as they “are not inherently for other uses,” which is why Verma was partially reimbursed.

    [...]

    The news of the large request for stolen luxury items comes at a time of unusual scrutiny for Verma, who formerly served as a consultant to then-Indiana Gov. Mike Pence in Indiana and has led CMS since March 2017. The $1 trillion health agency administers Medicare, the nation’s health insurance program for seniors; Medicaid, the program for low-income Americans; and Obamacare, among other programs.

    Verma has been engaged in an acrimonious feud with HHS Secretary Alex Azar that has spilled over into policy matters and prompted separate closed-door meetings for each official with Vice President Pence. Her spending of taxpayer money has also been under scrutiny by the HHS inspector general, after POLITICO reported in March about her extensive use of outside public relations consultants, some of whom worked to burnish Verma’s personal brand.

    The $2.25 million public relations contract was put on hold pending the probe, and Verma has been under investigation from congressional Democrats.

    [...]

    Verma’s San Francisco speech marked a notable point in her tenure: It was the first time the nation’s Medicare chief had publicly attacked “Medicare for All” proposals, arguing that Democrats’ ideas for single-payer health care would destroy the federal health program for older Americans and lead to “Medicare for None.”

    Verma won plaudits for the speech inside the White House, POLITICO reported, and she touted it online as part of a months-long campaign against Democrats’ proposals. A watchdog group later filed a complaint that Verma’s continued attacks on Medicare for All allegedly violated the prohibition on federal officials engaging in political activity.

  13. #11938
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    On the other hand, in the interest of being "fair and balanced", it should be pointed out that not too long ago The Washington Times landed a big scoop that AOC had spent nearly 300$ of her own money on a haircut:

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...airdo-last-ta/

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has allowed life in Washington to go to her head — literally.

    The self-declared socialist, who regularly rails against the rich and complains about the cost of living inside the Beltway, spent nearly $300 on her hairdo at a pricey salon she frequents in downtown Washington, The Washington Times has learned.

    The New York Democrat ventured into Last Tangle Salon on 19th Street Northwest last month and shelled out $80 for a haircut and $180 for lowlights, according to sources familiar with the salon.

    [...]

    Ms. Ocasio-Cortez declined to comment.

    She could have saved roughly $100 for the same hairstyle at the government-subsidized Capitol Hill barbershop.

    The lawmaker could have saved money on the same services by visiting highly reviewed salons in her own district in the Bronx.

    Her high-dollar hairdo stands in stark contrast to that of former Attorney General Jeff Sessions, a former senator from Alabama who is a regular customer at Senate Hair Care Services in the basement of the Russell Senate Office Building.

    At that place, open to members of Congress and the public, a men’s cut runs about $20, though men’s haircuts there and everywhere else are cheaper than women’s.
    [...]
    It's almost as bad as that time when she briefly put on a 3000$ suit for a photoshoot. Almost.

  14. #11939
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2011
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    Though, admittedly, this could be a fake news article planted by the Deep State. I mean, you just can't tell these days.
    How does somebody get elected to office?
    Through reaching the public voter on the platform of the media?

    So would control over the platform,
    be control over access to the process?

    And if the media were run by liberals,
    would they ALLOW somebody who was a political threat to themselves,
    to promote themselves on the liberals platform.

    You could buy all the commercial space you want.
    And don lemon would would trash you all night back from the commercial break and you got nowhere.

    The only peopel who get anywhere on a liberals media platform,
    ARE POEPLE VETTED BY THE LIBERALS WHO RUN IT.

    A democrat approved by the liberasl who run the platform,
    a new york times poll has determined that any other democrat gets to play on the undercard,
    and A LIBERALS "REPUBLICAN".

    A john mccain.
    Who isn't actually working for the republican voter,
    but is th eonly choice they get on that platform.

    THATS THE DEEP STATE.

    Its a rigged supreme court of 9 new york and california Jews and Catholics.
    NOT a representative democracy.

    If I'm being "anti-semetic" again I apologize.

  15. #11940
    Remember when I said earlier that the mediaís reporting during the Wars was bullshit because they just uncritically repeated lies told by the brass that had nothing to do with the reality of the situation?

    From WaPo today: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...ial-documents/

  16. #11941
    Quote Originally Posted by nbohr1more View Post
    They opted not to include his modifications which limited the scope of what was collected.

    It doesn't matter, even a low level secretary can use Palantir to query a collections database. Bill can certainly go deeper than that...

    Interesting.....You just inadvertently let slip that you know more than you’ve been saying.

    I haven’t seen anyone else on here who actually has a clue how those systems work. The lack of user controls compared even to regular back office corporate systems is stunning.

  17. #11942
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: Qantas
    Quote Originally Posted by robthom View Post
    How does somebody get elected to office?
    Through reaching the public voter on the platform of the media?

    So would control over the platform,
    be control over access to the process?

    And if the media were run by liberals,
    would they ALLOW somebody who was a political threat to themselves,
    to promote themselves on the liberals platform.

    You could buy all the commercial space you want.
    And don lemon would would trash you all night back from the commercial break and you got nowhere.

    The only peopel who get anywhere on a liberals media platform,
    ARE POEPLE VETTED BY THE LIBERALS WHO RUN IT.

    A democrat approved by the liberasl who run the platform,
    a new york times poll has determined that any other democrat gets to play on the undercard,
    and A LIBERALS "REPUBLICAN".

    A john mccain.
    Who isn't actually working for the republican voter,
    but is th eonly choice they get on that platform.

    THATS THE DEEP STATE.

    Its a rigged supreme court of 9 new york and california Jews and Catholics.
    NOT a representative democracy.

    If I'm being "anti-semetic" again I apologize.
    In 2016, which candidate got the most media coverage and free air time to promote himself?
    Donald Trump.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony_Tarantula View Post
    Interesting.....You just inadvertently let slip that you know more than youíve been saying.

    I havenít seen anyone else on here who actually has a clue how those systems work. The lack of user controls compared even to regular back office corporate systems is stunning.
    How about some common sense?

    What's the likelihood that one of TTLG's posters is a high level agency employee? It's not impossible, but I'd say the odds are low. And if there is one, what are the odds they're going to violate their NDA to drop some secrets in here? Even if they wanted to leak something, you think they'd leak it on TTLG?

    Anybody who actually knows how the current systems work won't be posting about it in public unless they want to rot in jail or emigrate to Russia. That should be obvious to you guys. Even Bill Binney is smart enough not to discuss system requirements, algorithms, methods, and detailed capabilities in public. And he's been out of the loop for a long time now.

  18. #11943
    This whole saga has played out expertly even among a lot of guys who consider themselves wise. It's been incredibly hypnotic to them.

    I keep reading about how Trump is playing 4D chess and easily beating this "impeachment nonsense" but nobody is stopping to ask what he's really getting done in the meanwhile. They seem to think that Trump not going to jail means the American people somehow win the game. All I can see is a guy playing rope-a-dope against an opponent who is by definition inexhaustible leading to the obvious (to me at least) conclusion that by the end of the tenth round he loses on points, and not by a small margin either.

    That's presuming he doesn't take a dive somewhere in the tenth.

    Even guys like Vox "my IQ is higher than everyone else's" Day seems to be pinning their entire premise of victory on the Q garbage about some sort of clean sweep of the enemies of the republic. I don't see any evidence of it whatsoever, which to them only indicates just how clever and elite the plan is.

    I have to wonder how they're going to spin their delusions if/when Trump loses in 2020 or leaves in 2024 and the deep state is still untouched. It's all very reminiscent of "Stealth Jeff" who was supposed to be poised to strike like the sword of Damocles, and who unceremoniously simply resigned leaving all the theorists with their dicks in their hands.

  19. #11944
    Quote Originally Posted by heywood View Post
    What's the likelihood that one of TTLG's posters is a high level agency employee? It's not impossible, but I'd say the odds are low. And if there is one, what are the odds they're going to violate their NDA to drop some secrets in here? Even if they wanted to leak something, you think they'd leak it on TTLG?
    That you jump to THAT bizarre interpretation shows that you're far less informed than he is. You went in exactly the opposite direction of what I was referring to because you don't exactly have to be a "high level agency employee" to be aware of how much of the reported news is completely fabricated bullshit.

    Read his post again.

  20. #11945
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2011
    Quote Originally Posted by heywood View Post
    In 2016, which candidate got the most media coverage and free air time to promote himself?
    Donald Trump.
    How about some common sense?
    Indeed.

    Do you know what Donald Trump's "superpower" to "capture your mind" and "drive us against each other" was?

    He understood how the media worked.

    From hanging around with hollywood liberals for 40 years.
    During which time they also never mentioned what a Russian spy/groper/White supremacists he is.

    They COULDN'T stonewall him from the process.
    Becasue he knew how to create HIS OWN media.

    Especially now in combination with the internet age.
    Thats why the liberal media is so mad about "fake news" on facebook.

    Its not fake news thats the issue,
    its not controlling the narrative that they're very upset about.

    Other then that he's just a guy.
    He likes hanging around with holllywood liberals and porn people.
    He's not perfect by any means.

  21. #11946
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    We're all kind of fucked, aren't we?

  22. #11947
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony_Tarantula View Post
    Interesting.....You just inadvertently let slip that you know more than you’ve been saying.
    He knows about Lexis Nexis. I bet he's a real lawyer! With knowledge!

  23. #11948
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Nobody knows the real story, not even the people who think that they at the center of the Deep State web.

    Except maybe Lexis.

  24. #11949
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    And every time you think that Rump has hit rock bottom, he excels, dishing anti-Semitic gruel at an event for the Israeli American Council.

    Coming in at #2 - “A lot of you are in the real estate business because I know you very well. You’re brutal killers, not nice people at all.”

    Dishonorable mention - On peace in the Middle East... “if Jared Kushner can’t do it, it can’t be done”.

  25. #11950
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Quote Originally Posted by robthom View Post
    He likes hanging around with holllywood liberals and porn people.
    He's not perfect by any means.
    Now he likes hanging out with ultra rich fucks with zero morals and Republican politicians with even less spine. What's your point? Who are you going to blame next?

    It doesn't matter who got him here, what matters is who is keeping him in power and why. That would be the GOP. And if you want to know why, why the fuck not, eh? The world is burning and Jesus will be back any day now, so party before country!

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