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View Poll Results: How long will Trump be President?

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  • 1 Term (4 Years)

    26 19.26%
  • 2 Terms (8 Years)

    43 31.85%
  • 1st Term Impeachment/Assassination

    49 36.30%
  • 2nd Term Impeachment/Assassination

    4 2.96%
  • I don't know what's going on!

    13 9.63%
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Thread: ✮✮✮ !Trump Dump! ✮✮✮

  1. #12476
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Let's break down how much each president added to the budget during their tenure by year.


    2017 - $671 billion
    2016 - $1.423 trillion
    2015 - $327 billion
    2014 - $1.086 trillion
    2013 - $672 billion
    2012 - $1.276 trillion
    2011 - $1.229 trillion
    2010 - $1.652 trillion


    Projected 2020 - $1.281 trillion
    2019 - $1.260 trillion
    2018 - $1.271 trillion

    It looks like Trump is matching Obama nearly 1:1, having not slowed down government spending in the least, despite claims to the contrary. If Trump gets two terms in office, he'll at least match him in money spent.

    I expect when this happens, the Trump defenders will start comparing the two not by dollars spent, but by percentage added to the deficit to better excuse it. Here's how I imagine these conversations will go then.

    "Yeah? So what if Trump spent $9-10 billion! He only increased the deficit by 50%! Odipshit jumped it up by nearly 75%! That's the most of any president in history!"

    "If you're going by percentages, then Obama's the 5th most expensive president. Reagan increased the deficit by nearly 200%, and W. Bush by around 100%. Obama's only the most expensive if you go by pure dollar amount, and don't account for inflation."


  2. #12477
    Registered: May 2004
    Not only that, they'll conveniently forget all about the recession Obama inherited.

  3. #12478
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    he did not inherit shit, he campaigned for it.
    trump is indeed worse than obama, that clown is kicking the can down the road and he was supposed to be the "fiscal conservative" .. libtards, republitards, libertariantards, we are ALL going to pay for the shit when the bill is due.

  4. #12479
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    The question is, who's gonna force us to pay the bill? It's mostly money the government owes to itself on our behalf. It's less "we borrowed a ton of money from the banks,and eventually we'll have to mortgage the house", more "sorry, we used the money you gave us for social security on war."

    Now, don't get me wrong. Having a high deficit isn't exactly great, because eventually paying the interest on it will become something of a burden. But don't make the mistake of assuming government debt is the same as the debt you or I have. If there ever comes a point where it becomes a true problem, it means the economy is in the process of imploding in upon itself, and the American people won't care, because we'll be too busy fighting each other in the streets over the last bags of affordable beef jerky.

    ...and then it won't be a problem at all, because the government will probably fall soon after, then it won't owe money to itself anymore. We'll have a new government soon enough, with a brand new economy, probably based around bartering.

    Wow. Perpetual growth capitalism really is a self-correcting system.

  5. #12480
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    don't we owe china a bit?
    why beef jerky? meat is murder my friend, try tofu instead.

  6. #12481
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Ain't no one gonna murder each other in the street for damn tofu.

    And yeah, China owns about $1 trillion of our debt, housed in treasury holdings. Thing is, they can't do anything with it, since if they decided to collect on it all at once, it'd immediately devalue the dollar, sending both of our economies into a tailspin. Massive amounts of money would be lost all around for nothing more than a political stunt.

    See, we're not really borrowing from China, at least not exactly. It's not that we're asking them to lend us a buck because we're short on change, but as a vote of assurance upon our mutual continued prosperity. Our debt with China grows as the dollar strengthens, because the worth of the treasury holdings they own rise in value alongside it.When it comes to foreign debt, think of it less as a loan, and more as an investment they've paid into us that we're obligated to honor. They're shareholders in the US economy.

  7. #12482
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    I need to figure out how to explain that to some chinese hookers in a way that benefits me...........

  8. #12483
    Registered: May 2003
    Location: Minecraft
    If meat is murder, tofu is suicide.

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