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View Poll Results: How long will Trump be President?

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  • 1 Term (4 Years)

    26 18.06%
  • 2 Terms (8 Years)

    51 35.42%
  • 1st Term Impeachment/Assassination

    50 34.72%
  • 2nd Term Impeachment/Assassination

    4 2.78%
  • I don't know what's going on!

    13 9.03%

Thread: ✮✮✮ !Trump Dump! ✮✮✮

  1. #12526
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    What else did you expect? They're not going to further investigate, they're not going to call any witnesses. They're just going to say "we don't think Trump did anything wrong", then bail on the whole affair before it makes them look any worse.

    Did any of us think it was gonna be any different?
    Last edited by Renzatic; 27th Jan 2020 at 17:24.

  2. #12527
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    Genocide is a pretty specific thing, JK. Bush, Obama, and Trump have targeted paramilitary or government groups such as Al Qaeda, ISIS, or Iran. For it to be a genocide, they'd have to be going over a much broader target, like Arabic Shiite Muslims, and would be spending a lot of time purposefully killing civilians.

    So yeah, quit trying to be a goddamn edgelord.


    How can the US presidents bring war to their Saudi friends.....it's not genocide. It's called "strategy", ruthless as it can be. Not genocide.

  3. #12528
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Our Middle Eastern policy is pretty shitty and overbearing, but it's not genocide. We're more concerned about maintaining the petrodollar and our links to various oil supplies than eradicating an entire indigenous people for the simple sake of it.

    It's the difference between Vietnam and the Holocaust.

  4. #12529
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    Did any of us think it was gonna be any different?
    Lord Dampnut could sell nuclear secrets to Iran and there wouldn't be 20 votes in the Senate to convict him.

    If he were to waltz heave his fat ass over to the National Archives and take a big steaming dump on the Constitution, his supporters would be high-fiving each other over how he's triggering libs and the quote unquote elites.

    And of course Republicans are trying to shut the trial down as fast as possible to try to wash their hands of it. With the recent Bolton book revelations, there's no telling how much is yet to hit the fan.
    Last edited by Starker; 27th Jan 2020 at 18:45.

  5. #12530
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    It's not just the book. He wants to testify directly in front of the senate.

    His testimony is terrible for Trump because he corroborates everything the previous witnesses have said, and the Republicans can't write it off as hearsay, because he was Trump's own National Security Advisor, and had first hand knowledge of everything going on. The Republicans won't be able to defend against him without looking terrible, because he's born and bred one of their own, a once regular fixture on Fox News, and a stalwart defender of the neoconservative way of life.

    All they've been able to do thus far is say he's testifying because he wants to up his book sales. Maybe so, but he'll be testifying under oath. If he's lying to drive attention to himself at Trump's expense, then charge him with perjury, and put him under the jail.

    If they don't allow to testify though, then it'll straight up look like a coverup to protect the president from facing criminal liabilities, and the entire Republican party are co-conspirators. Right now, they're saying they don't want to call new witnesses because the factwork and testimonies should've been started and finished in the House. That's a hard sell though, given that the Republican defense is made up by the very people who pushed the Clinton impeachment, and they themselves forwarded three witnesses, and introduced something like 9000 pages of new evidence during his Senate hearing.

    It's really not looking good for them. They barely even have plausible deniability by this point. Not that this will stop Trump from walking away scot free, and running again in 2020.

  6. #12531
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Bolton one of their own? You're kidding, right? He's just a leftist plant:





    Besides, he was nobody of significance and worked there only for a brief time. Lord Dampnut doesn't even know him.

  7. #12532
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2002
    Location: In the flesh.
    This evening they tried again to assert Trump was right to hold up funding to Ukraine because Biden is somehow unspecified crooked for having a son who took a job he shouldn't have. They even called it nepotism but how someone being hired by someone who is not kin is nepotism is beyond me. Despite Biden getting rid of the prosecutor who would not prosecute Barisma, or any other crook, he is somehow a crook for doing so. Of course all of this is stated while simultaneously claiming Trump did not hold up funding.

    They are quite slippery in their statements too. They keep saying Trump gave the promised funding before the investigation started which is technically true. What they don't say is it was not released until the whistle blowers complaint was filed. As long as you drop the TV before the investigation starts on your robbery you are A okay I guess.

  8. #12533
    BANNED
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    republicans are tied to trump just like clinton was tied to the democrats, I don't see trump being removed or voted out of office.

  9. #12534
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2002
    Location: In the flesh.
    All things considered I would rather be tied to someone getting a BJ.

  10. #12535
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Whoever put Pam Bondi in charge of arguing the Ukraine part must be severely regretting it by now. Her performance was one of the worst even by the current "TV lawyers pandering to Fox viewers" standards.

    Also, funny how Lord Dampnut, out of all the corruption that happens in Ukraine, just happened to focus on one specific company where his political opponent's son happened to be a board member. I mean, what are the odds on that.

    And after all that I still don't know what Hunter Biden's crime was supposed to be.

  11. #12536
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Quote Originally Posted by Starker View Post
    Besides, he was nobody of significance and worked there only for a brief time. Lord Dampnut doesn't even know him.
    I knew Bolton would end up on one of the QAnon's crowd's ever growing flowcharts sooner or later, but I didn't expect Fox to be one to spearhead it. I do love how anyone who doesn't bend over and kiss Trump's ass somehow ends up being part of...

    ...The Leftist Deep State Conspiracy. BUM BUM BUUUUUUMMMMMM!

    Of course Bolton is connected to Romney and Comey. THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME GODDAMN PARTY, YOU STUPID SHITS! THEY PROBABLY EVEN GET THE SAME NEWSLETTERS! JESUS CHRIST ON A CRACKER!

    As for nepotism and cronyism, it's shitty, but it's not illegal. Good thing too, cuz that would just be something else Trump could be charged with.

  12. #12537
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Quote Originally Posted by Starker View Post
    And after all that I still don't know what Hunter Biden's crime was supposed to be.
    Hunter didn't commit a crime, other than being hired to a position he was wholly unqualified for simply for his connections. The Republicans are arguing it was Biden Sr. who broke the law, abusing his powers of office for the benefit of his son and his new company. It's roughly the same accusation Trump is being charged with now.

    There is a massive conflict of interests there, but...well, we've already been over this time and again. In digest, it looks terrible, but it was more than likely above board, given that the Ukrainian anti-corruption push was a bipartisan effort, and the entirety of congress and the Executive branch was well aware of his actions and reasoning.

  13. #12538
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Also, wasn't it the executive branch that tasked him with the effort in the first place as official US policy? Not like he just decided to do it on his own.

  14. #12539
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    ...so Obama's involved too?

  15. #12540
    BANNED
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    exactly what the deep state conspiracy theories allege, alex jones type make that damn claim.
    possible? yes. I keep hearing about the massive corruption involving not just bidens but pelosis kids, all getting massive paybacks with our tax dollars but it only comes from the hard core alex jones followers.

  16. #12541
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Yeah, well, those people are all a bunch of windowlickers.

    The thing is, there is enough suspicious at a glance goings on to justify an investigation into the Biden's. If Trump went through the usual channels, tasking the DOJ and/or congress into forwarding a look-see into Joe's actions during that time, we'd not only have a perfectly legitimate inquiry, but it'd also be a burden on him during the election. The Democrats wouldn't be able to do anything except bitch about it.

    Instead, Trump decides to go ahead and hold up 400 million in congressionally approved funding for the Ukrainian war effort without informing anyone outside of his inner circle on what he's doing, uses these funds to coerce a foreign government into investigating a political rival for future campaign ammo, and all the while, Trump's friend and personal lawyer is, at his behest, and without any official reasoning or sanctioning, running around with people roughly attached to this same foreign government, all allegedly funneling foreign money towards Republican campaigns without anyone's direct knowledge, and spreading unkind rumors about one of our own ambassadors in an attempt to force a seemingly justifiable removal from office to implant a more Trump friendly ambassador for reasons currently unknown.

    The whole thing smacks of what-the-fuckery. It's like Trump and Co. were trying to find the most convoluted, most legally questionable way to go about doing things, simply to see if they could get away with it.

  17. #12542
    BANNED
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    trump is a POS CEO who operates that very way. that said just how many politicians DO indeed have their hands in the cookie jar? enough probably to stop investigations from ever happening & that includes BOTH dems & repubs who are dirty, fucking Epstein was murdered in jail by all these dip shits wanting to stay out of the limelight.
    then you have our POS media

  18. #12543
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    No, they didn't, or at least CBS didn't. Here's a recording of it right here.

    Twitter!

    Though in the end, it's a waste of time, considering the most they could hope to gain from this line of arguing is that Trump did this wholly illegal thing for what seemed to be entirely sound reasons. Like the Reagan administration going behind congress' back by selling arms to Iran to fight communists in South America. Plus, if they find Trump innocent for his alleged misdeeds, then Biden is innocent by connection, since they're being accused of basically the same crime. You can't say that abuse of office is okay in Situation A, while lambasting abuse of office in situation B, because THEY'RE BOTH ABUSE OF OFFICE!

    And yeah, there are tons of politicians who are guilty of engaging in petty corruption. Back scratches here and there. Putting names ahead of others in contract bids. Stuff like that. It's not outright illegal, but it's definitely in the dark grey area of the moral spectrum that shouldn't be tolerated, but always slides.

    ...but hell, concerning yourself over that when Trump is around doing his thing is like offering a stern lecture on casual sexual harassment issues at the yearly office parties right after letting a violent serial rapist loose in the building.

  19. #12544
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2002
    Location: In the flesh.
    Reckon they figure to get away with that lie because they know their true believers only watch Fox?

  20. #12545
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    They don't want you to know about that thing we've been endlessly talking about for three months now, and everyone already knows about.

  21. #12546
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Like this article about another blurb in Bolton's book draft --
    Bolton told Barr he was concerned Trump did favors for autocrats: report

    Haha, yeah, shocking news at 11.

  22. #12547
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    I think the highlight of the whole charade so far has to be Ken Starr saying how impeachments have become far too common these days and how did we even get here: https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1221863406690557957

  23. #12548
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Ken Starr is the type of guy who could murder a child in the crib right in from a crowd of people, then call them all sick fucks for watching.
    Last edited by Renzatic; 28th Jan 2020 at 03:37.

  24. #12549
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    Ken Starr is the type of guy who could murder a child in the crib right in from a crowd of people, then call them all sick fucks for watching.
    The perfect pharisee.

  25. #12550
    BANNED
    Registered: Nov 2016
    Location: Trollinus Maximus
    who puts cribs in front of crowds of people in the first place? damn kid deserved it for having shitty parents.

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