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  1. #13301
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    President Best Brain is giving medical advice in order to appear to have this thing under control:

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump...ushpmg00000067

    President Donald Trump touted a two-drug cocktail Saturday to battle coronavirus. But the medicines together have been linked to cardiac arrhythmia and sudden death.

    Concerned physicians responded to Trump’s tweet crowing about what could be “one of the biggest game-changers in the history of medicine” with warnings about the serious side effects — and urgent pleas not to try to obtain the drugs without a medical prescription in consultation with a doctor.

    [...]

    Trump at Thursday’s briefing first touted the anti-malarial drug Chloroquine as having “tremendous promise” against the coronavirus. He falsely suggested it had been approved for use against COVID-19. “It’s been approved ... they took it down from many, many months to immediate,” Trump said.

    But FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn immediately contradicted Trump, telling reporters: “That’s a drug that the president has directed us to take a closer look at as to whether an expanded use approach ... We want to do that in the setting of a clinical trial, a large pragmatic clinical trial.”

    Trump responded that he had a “good feeling” about the drug. “It’s been around for a long time, so we know that if things don’t go as planned it’s not going to kill anybody,” Trump said.

    [...]

    A study by the Wuhan Institute of Virology found that people could die with just twice the recommended daily dosage of Chloroquine, Bloomberg reported.

    China tried the drug as a treatment for the coronavirus after early positive clinical trials, but within days officials warned health-care professionals of its lethal side effects, according to Bloomberg.
    What do you have to lose:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/h...ine-trump.html

    At a long-winded White House briefing on Friday, President Trump enthusiastically and repeatedly promoted the promise of two long-used malaria drugs that are still unproven against the coronavirus, but being tested in clinical trials.

    “I’m a smart guy,” he said, while acknowledging he couldn’t predict the drugs would work. “I feel good about it. And we’re going to see. You’re going to see soon enough.”

    [...]

    Mr. Trump’s boosterish attitude toward the drugs has deepened worries among doctors and patients with lupus and other diseases who rely on the drugs, because the idea that the old malaria drugs could work against the coronavirus has circulated widely in recent weeks and fueled shortages that have already left people rushing to fill their prescriptions.

    [...]

    The excitement about the drugs is based largely on reports from China and France that they seem to help patients. But researchers and Dr. Fauci have stressed that the reports are not based on carefully controlled studies, which are the only way to be sure a treatment really works.

    In a tweet on Saturday, Mr. Trump called attention to yet another unapproved treatment for Covid-19, this time a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin, a common anti-bacterial agent. He cited a report by French researchers in a scientific journal that was not a controlled clinical trial, and studied only 20 patients.

    As word of the drugs’ possible effects have spread around the globe, demand has surged, with hospitals ordering the treatments in a desperate effort to treat severely ill patients.

    [...]

    Hydroxychloroquine is especially important for people with lupus, which can be life-threatening, Dr. Lockshin said. The drug can lower the risk of dying from lupus and prevent organ damage, and is considered the standard of care. If patients stop taking it after using it regularly for a long time, they can gradually become quite ill. He said it was particularly disturbing to think that people known to benefit from the drug could lose access to it because it is being diverted to a disease for which there is no solid evidence that it actually works.

    [...]

    Onisis Stefas, the chief pharmacy officer for Northwell Health’s 23 hospitals, said the system began stocking up on hydroxychloroquine several weeks ago. He said the drug was being given to many coronavirus patients, but that Northwell’s 10 pharmacies were also setting aside supplies for patients who had been taking it regularly for lupus or rheumatoid arthritis.

    Concerned about shortages, Mr. Stefas said, “The last thing I want to happen now is that, especially since President Trump and others have been mentioning this by name, is that people will go out and ask their doctors to write prescriptions, just in case.”

    On Friday, Mr. Trump appeared to encourage Americans to do just that, arguing that there was little downside to taking a malaria drug that is already on the market.

    “If you wanted, you can have a prescription. You get a prescription,” he said. “You know the expression, what the hell do you have to lose?”

  2. #13302
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    My mom takes Chloroquine. It is not a drug you want to suggest people take lightly.

  3. #13303
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Someone needs to explain to me the wisdom of keeping the bailouts of any large corporation a secret for 6 months. I can understand why we have to bail out some banks and corporations, even if it stings to do so. You don't want them going under, leaving millions of Americans without a job, and taking the economy with them...

    ...but why hide who gets what?

  4. #13304
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    I'm actually a little surprised they didn't just straight up make that figure past the election. Obviously they need to make sure the brazen corruption that is certain to follow stays under wraps, but at least this way they'll have six months to figure out how to not release it for another two (or less). Going by the Trump administration's behavior so far, they'll just not release it and fight any lawsuits tooth and nail. Shouldn't be hard to snow it in for a couple months. They'll even have the gall to say it shouldn't be released during the election runup, I'm sure.

  5. #13305
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    What the news says:

    But that confidence seems to have faded since then, as Democrats press for a host of provisions Republicans have resisted, including expansions of paid leave, unemployment benefits, and a huge stabilization fund to help state and local governments weather the crisis.
    What the rightwing cohort says ... Let's see if this works for you like it does for me, but the trend is pretty lopsided towards rightnut rage:
    https://www.facebook.com/search/post...i&epa=SERP_TAB
    https://twitter.com/hashtag/pelosi?lang=en

    If I could boil it down, my rightwing cohort is raging that Dems aren't being socialist enough by not allowing this relief to get to the little guy like the GOP is trying to do and instead funnel it to their special interest or just to spite their altruistic efforts, when it looks like the Dems are trying to get his relief to actually go to the little guy, like paid leave and unemployment where it's actually needed and what actually gets people staying at home, instead of big businesses that we can guess aren't going to pass the relief down against Trump's flying monkey enablers trying to funnel it to their own interests.

    Or something. Their comment threads are so incoherent batting between rabid pro- and anti-socialism that the phrase irony inside of irony doesn't even give it justice ... it's dizzying.
    Last edited by demagogue; 23rd Mar 2020 at 05:03.

  6. #13306
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Testing, testing:



    Nothing to worry about:


  7. #13307
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    When asked about the provision allowing the Treasury to dole out this money without oversight, Trump said: “Look, I’ll be the oversight. I’ll be the oversight.”
    BWAHAHAHAHAHA... Ha. Hahahahahahaha.

    Heh. Heh.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I can't stop laughing WTF.

    Can anybody draw a Trump fox saying this over a dollar bill henhouse, please?

  8. #13308
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Ah, unrequited love:

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/21/p...ump/index.html

    President Donald Trump confirmed Sunday that he sent a letter to North Korean leader Kim Jong Un about cooperation on the novel coronavirus and offered assistance to North Korea, Iran and other countries that need help.
    "On North Korea, Iran, and others, we are open for helping other countries. It is a very serious time. North Korea's going through something, Iran is going through something very, very strong," Trump said. "Iran is really going through a difficult period with respect to this as you know. I have put the -- it's really a glad hand, to North Korea, to Iran and to many other countries."
    His confirmation comes after North Korea said Trump sent Kim a personal letter in which he expressed his willingness to help with "anti-epidemic work," according to the state-run Korean Central News Agency early Sunday.

    In the letter, Trump "explained his plan to propel the relations between the two countries of the DPRK and the U.S. and expressed his intent to render cooperation in the anti-epidemic work, saying that he was impressed by the efforts made by the Chairman to defend his people from the serious threat of the epidemic," according to a statement from Kim Yo Jong, Kim's younger sister and first vice department director for WPK Central Committee, as reported by KCNA.
    She also praised Trump's move as "good judgment and proper action" toward retaining a good relationship with the hermit nation at a time with what she referred to as "big difficulties and challenges."
    "We regard it as a good judgment and proper action for the U.S. president to make efforts to keep the good relations he had with our Chairman by sending a personal letter again at a time as now when big difficulties and challenges lie in the way of developing the bilateral relations, and think that this should be highly estimated," she said.

    [...]

    The two leaders have enjoyed a turbulent relationship since Trump has been in office. Prior to their historic first summit in 2018 Trump and Kim had traded threats and insults with the American President dubbing the North Korean leader a "little rocket man." But after meeting Kim in Singapore, the two seemed to strike up an unlikely friendship culminating in the President telling a rally in fall 2018 that they "fell in love."
    In January, Trump sent a birthday message to Kim but his public comments on North Korea have been noticeably more muted.
    On New Year's Eve, Trump reiterated that the leaders had a "good relationship," but also acknowledged that they may have divergent agendas.
    "Look, he likes me; I like him. We get along. He's representing his country. I'm representing my country. We have to do what we have to do," Trump told reporters at Mar-A-Lago when he was asked about the Christmas gift promised by the North Koreans. That gift -- which the administration expected to be a missile launch of some sort -- never came.
    [...]
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/21/w...trump-kim.html

    [...]
    On Saturday, Mr. Kim attended the testing of two short-range ballistic missiles by ​his military.

    Ms. Kim said on Sunday that her brother had “mentioned his special personal relations with President Trump again and appreciated the personal letter.” But she said good personal relations between the two leaders were not enough to improve their countries’ ties.

    “We try to hope for the day when the relations between the two countries would be as good as the ones between the two top leaders, but it has to be left to time and be watched whether it can actually happen,” she said. “However, we will never lose or waste time for nothing, but will keep changing ourselves to be more powerful for that time just as how we made ourselves for the past two years.”
    [...]

  9. #13309
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    NORTH KOREA HAS NO CORONAVIRUS! DEAR LEADER HAS HALTED ITS SPREAD THROUGH OUR GREAT COUNTRY BY THE SHEER FORCE OF HIS SINGULAR WILL AND ALSO MAYBE SOME LIQUIDATION I MEAN REEDUCATION CAMPS!

  10. #13310
    Member
    Registered: May 2000
    Location: state of quantum entanglement
    The funny thing is that they really may not have it, given how locked down the country is. Unlikely - but unlike almost all other places in the world now, not out of the realm of possibility.

  11. #13311
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    The 2020 election is gonna be brutal as hell.


  12. #13312
    Still Subjective
    Registered: Dec 1999
    Location: Idiocy will never die
    Trump will still win.

    It's inevitable.

    I'm just finishing A Canticle for Leibovitz. Oh boy.

  13. #13313
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    The 2020 election is gonna be brutal as hell.

  14. #13314
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Quote Originally Posted by SubJeff View Post
    Trump will still win.

    It's inevitable.

    I'm just finishing A Canticle for Leibovitz. Oh boy.
    Probably. The odds still favor him, even considering the fuckup we're now in the midst of.

  15. #13315
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Hell, this one's even worse.


  16. #13316
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    Probably. The odds still favor him, even considering the fuckup we're now in the midst of.
    He sure isn't taking the opportunity to act as a decisive leader like he played on TV. Perhaps someone should be writing a script for him?

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...weakman-149573

    [...]
    The notion of Trump as authoritarian strongman, however, has been cast in an odd light in this pandemic. Would-be tyrants use crisis to consolidate power. Trump, by contrast, has been pilloried from many quarters, including many liberals, for not asserting authority and responsibility more forcefully to combat Covid-19. Rather than seizing on a genuine emergency, Trump was slow to issue an emergency declaration, moved gingerly in employing the Defense Production Act to help overburdened local health systems, and even now seems eager to emphasize that many subjects—closure of schools and businesses, obtaining sufficient ventilators—are primarily problems for state governors to deal with.

    Trump’s apparent personal affinity with Putin, and other dictators, has caused foes to conclude that he has an aesthetic attraction to leaders who don’t let procedural niceties of democracy or law get in their way. But he has shown passivity in what by all rights would be a dream scenario for an authoritarian strongman.

    Perhaps the way to think of Trump is as an authoritarian weakman.

    “I don’t take any responsibility at all,” Trump said, a line that seems likely to join a pantheon that includes George W. Bush’s “Brownie, you‘re doing a heck of a job,” and Bill Clinton’s “It depends on what the meaning of ‘is’ is,” as debacle-defining one-liners.

    That was in response to a question about inadequate supplies of coronavirus testing kits, which many health experts regard as the essence of why the United States has been flat-footed in containing the spread of disease. But the spirit has animated other dimensions of Trump’s response, in which he has been reluctant to make Washington the focal point of pandemic policy. “The governors,” Trump said at a media briefing on Sunday, “locally, are going to be in command. We will be following them, and we hope they can do the job.”
    [...]

  17. #13317
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Lord Dampnut doesn't believe there's going to be a shortage of ventilators, because big hospitals only use a couple ventilators:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...navirus-151311

    “I have a feeling that a lot of the numbers that are being said in some areas are just bigger than they’re going to be,” he said. “I don't believe you need 40,000 or 30,000 ventilators. You go into major hospitals sometimes, and they’ll have two ventilators. And now all of a sudden they’re saying, ‘Can we order 30,000 ventilators?’”

  18. #13318
    Asking for a friend.

    If Trump says to drink plenty of fluids and I die from drinking brake fluid would that be his fault?

  19. #13319
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Washington DC
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony_Tarantula View Post
    Asking for a friend.

    If Trump says to drink plenty of fluids and I die from drinking brake fluid would that be his fault?
    Trump touted chloroquine as a likely cure and encouraged people to try it, and one couple in a vulnerable age bracket, unable to secure a prescription for chloroquine without a medical justification, turned to a cleaning product that contains chloroquine (the same form- chloroquine phosphate) as its primary ingredient.

    But yeah I guess if you spin the analogy that heavily it does make Trump sound blameless, doesn't it?

    Maybe the president shouldn't be recommending people go out and get unproven drugs, let alone portraying them as a guaranteed countermeasure to an ongoing epidemic.

  20. #13320
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2001
    Location: uk
    But Trump is a: obviously a moron and b: prone to denying he ever said whatever it was when he says the exact opposite two days later.

    Why would anyone listen to a word he says?

  21. #13321
    Different Note, Kushner is a remarkably horrible individual. It looks more and more like he exploit's Trump's shortcomings to his own advantage.

    https://twitter.com/AmeliaHouchins/s...74057078452227

    Trump turned down WHO test kits for corona because the Kushners own Oscar Health, the company that has now been given the contact to supply the tests. Though Jareds name was on the company as co owner, with his brother Joshua, it has now been removed.
    Anyone else notice how bizarrely frequently it's the family members of congressmen, politicians, and high level bureaucrats who just "coincidentally" win the contracts from the government?

    https://twitter.com/jeffgiesea/statu...03875946823680

    The US can drop bombs in pinpoint locations in Afghanistan but can't defend our borders or mobilize around containing #COVID2019

    What exactly is our $738 billion in defense spending securing?

  22. #13322
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Quote Originally Posted by Tony_Tarantula View Post
    Anyone else notice how bizarrely frequently it's the family members of congressmen, politicians, and high level bureaucrats who just "coincidentally" win the contracts from the government?
    Now this, at least, is Washington as usual.

  23. #13323
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Quote Originally Posted by catbarf View Post
    Trump touted chloroquine as a likely cure and encouraged people to try it, and one couple in a vulnerable age bracket, unable to secure a prescription for chloroquine without a medical justification, turned to a cleaning product that contains chloroquine (the same form- chloroquine phosphate) as its primary ingredient.
    Hannity's been pushing the chloroquine angle pretty hard too too.

    Meanwhile, the right wing blogosphere has been attacking Dr. Fauci.

  24. #13324
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Washington DC
    A lot of people are about to die, and I already know that Trump and his supporters are going to find some way to blame it on medical experts and the left.

  25. #13325
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    It's gonna be all Obama's fault by the time all this is said and done.

    Also, it seems that Trump is trying to distance Washington from this mess, leaving it almost solely on the individual states to procure ventilators for their hospitals and whatnot. I imagine he's doing this to avoid blame when the shit has properly hit the fan in another couple of weeks.

    It must be working, because Trump is currently enjoying the highest ratings he's had practically since he took the presidency.

    Meanwhile, we're about 2 days away from being the first country to hit a 6 digit infection tally.

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