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View Poll Results: How long will Trump be President?

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  • 1 Term (4 Years)

    26 18.06%
  • 2 Terms (8 Years)

    51 35.42%
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    50 34.72%
  • 2nd Term Impeachment/Assassination

    4 2.78%
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    13 9.03%

Thread: ✮✮✮ !Trump Dump! ✮✮✮

  1. #13776
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Do you really?

  2. #13777
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Look at you,h-h-h-hacker. You've been reading my diary.

  3. #13778
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Look, I'm The Fonz 90% of the time, but I don't need a Holden Caulfield in a mid-life crisis constantly whining about how there are too many posts about a topic in a thread specifically on that topic.

  4. #13779
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Ayyyyyyyy! Starker!


    This guest should provide something to talk about at the Congressional water coolers. Aaron Zelinsky was one of the three prosecutors who suddenly resigned from the Roger Stone case during the sentencing phase. He will be appearing before the house to address allegations that Barr installed Acting U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, Timothy Shea to get a lighter sentence for Stone.

    But Zelinsky said he was explicitly told by a supervisor that the push for a lighter sentence was political and had nothing to do with the crimes Stone had committed. He and the other prosecutors "were instructed" to go along because the case was "not a hill worth dying on" and they could lose their jobs, Zelinsky said.

    Still, the prosecutors refused to recommend a shorter sentence, Zelinsky said. The morning after they filed their sentencing memorandum in court, the president called it a "miscarriage of justice." Zelinsky said he later learned from media reports that the Justice Department plans to override their recommendation.

    "We repeatedly asked to see the new memorandum prior to its filing. Our request was denied. We were not informed about the content or substance of the proposed filing, or even who was writing it. We were told that one potential draft of the filing attacked us personally," Zelinsky said.
    At the very least, Bill Bar and Timothy Shea should be suspended until this is investigated. That or being escorted out of their offices carrying a cardboard box of personal effects. That or being escorted out of their offices in shackles.

  5. #13780
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    I think you can ignore PigLick's post, Starker. It wasn't terribly serious given he was essentially posting everywhere, so probably the result of some late night debauchery and a questionable (but enviable) blood alcohol level.

  6. #13781
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Somewhere
    Yeh starks, dont take it personally, its just stream of conciousness(or lack thereof) dribble.

  7. #13782
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Sorry but I just could not resist...

    We have it from the orange horse's mouth itself, one of Trump's friends called him a "Perfect Person".

    During a televised town hall with Fox News’ Sean Hannity on Thursday, the president claimed a pal had told him he has to be “the most perfect person” because he was not brought down by the Russia investigation.

    “Isn’t that true?” Trump asked a small audience packed with enthusiastic fans.
    Now, back to your weekend.

  8. #13783
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Mmm, people want all of this to have some kind of meaning. For some people, it's a bitter pill to accept that sometimes momentous but empty things just happen for no reason. Nothing good comes out of it; there is no deeper meaning; it's just a series of pointless accidents of nature or social forces that have no significance or value beyond the fact that they just happened. I think that's basically what we're facing here, but I do empathize with people that emotionally find that hard to accept and want to push the thought aside and immerse themselves in an endless succession of stadia rallies teeming with enthusiasm. Edit: Or in conspiracies on strings pulled by deeper evils that must be out there, or what will we do unless they are?

    It's just another sad part of this farce that the alternative to utter pointlessness is reveling in the only other meaning on offer, that this is so out of the ordinary that God must have had some kind of plan here; that our country and by extension me, my family, and my people really can be great again; that these feelings of pride, finally!, mean something; that the arc of history of our country means something. Of good or ill.

    Sometimes I wish history meant something too.

    But now I mostly think that just being decent to and respecting each other--and perhaps the occasional rush of freedom and possibility one gets in the presence of things that bring a joie de vivre (inspired art, a sport or game well played, great food, whatever does it for someone, and not at the cost of other people's well-being)--are about the only things that really mean anything in the end.
    Last edited by demagogue; 27th Jun 2020 at 08:43.

  9. #13784
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Somewhere
    or as Bill and Ted once said, party on and be excellent to one another!
    or was it the other way round?

  10. #13785
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2002
    Location: In the flesh.

  11. #13786
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    For some people, it's a bitter pill to accept that sometimes momentous but empty things just happen for no reason.
    They certainly do but this is not one of them. Again and again, societies and civilizations have permitted sociopaths to usurp control of their lives. Feudalism seems to be hard wired in humans and is the default political system throughout history. Even today, any nation that has not adopted some version of a parliamentary democracy, is a feudal state.

    We have a weakness for sociopaths and even with robust political mechanisms in place to prevent abuse, criminals rise to power and predictably, don't know when to stop grabbing more of it. Putin winning a referendum granting him a life long term as president is not an accident. The tyrants of the world are not the result of happenstance, they are the result of fundamental flaws in human psychology, their and ours.

  12. #13787
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2005
    Location: Watching the puppets thrash.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tocky View Post
    At most, this resulted in 20 dead US troops. It is as if it was done because it could be done, with no real objective in mind/

  13. #13788
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Has anyone cracked why Trump is so slavishly beholden to Putin? I don't think it's just flat blackmail because I think Trump revels in it. I think it's more to do with a fetish he has for gloating power over others and exploiting people's weaknesses or signs of weakness (an NPD defense mechanism because he's hypersensitive to his own weaknesses). He wants naked power to win, he gets off on it, and Putin represents that worldview that he gets in a special way. So I think he's happy to do Putin favors even if he doesn't have to, which is even worse than blackmail. That's my theory. But dodgy Russian oligarch "loans" and sordid "business" deals he doesn't want to come to light could be in the mix too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicker View Post
    The tyrants of the world are not the result of happenstance, they are the result of fundamental flaws in human psychology, their and ours.
    I maybe didn't word it like this, but I meant the same thing. The meaning is mundane social and psychological factors, not the grand meaning in their imaginations that they think it has. No deeper meaning on the policy or historical or cosmic scale. That's what I meant.
    Last edited by demagogue; 27th Jun 2020 at 20:46.

  14. #13789
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2002
    Location: In the flesh.
    Quote Originally Posted by TTK12G3 View Post
    At most, this resulted in 20 dead US troops. It is as if it was done because it could be done, with no real objective in mind/
    Putin always has an objective. In this case it is derailing negotiations between the US and the Taliban.

  15. #13790
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by demagogue View Post
    Has anyone cracked why Trump is so slavishly beholden to Putin?
    He'll need a place to live after this, won't he?

    Joking aside, though, it doesn't have to be more complicated that the owes him a bunch of money through Deutsche Bank, but kompromat is always a distinct possibility with Russia.

  16. #13791
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Quote Originally Posted by Starker View Post
    ...but kompromat is always a distinct possibility with Russia.
    Like kompromat on Trump even matters anymore. The pee tapes could be real, Putin could release them on Pornhub, and it wouldn't make one goddamn bit of difference.

  17. #13792
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Yeah, I think that would actually increase his popularity. And somebody would photoshop in news personalities.

  18. #13793
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Sure, he could have sold nuclear secrets to North Korea and Fox News would be singing praises about how smartly he owned the libs, but he has nevertheless gone to great lengths to try to hide his connections and dealings with Russia, enough to fill the entire second part of the Mueller Report.

    And nobody is invincible. Even with Nixon, Republicans eventually cut their losses and ran.
    Last edited by Starker; 28th Jun 2020 at 03:46.

  19. #13794
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    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    For the record, what made the alleged pee scene bad was not the actual urination, but the fact he commanded them to pee in the bed because the Obamas had slept there. He allegedly refused to touch the bed himself. And if I had money, I'd be willing to bet the n-word came out of him more than a few times. In our era of chaturbate, nobody's going to blink an eye at prostitutes peeing, but refer to the sitting president by the n-word and play out a scene like that and you've got yourself a kerfuffle.

    If the polls hold and he loses in November, then I think the fall will come quick and total, especially if the prosecutions start rapidly. Considering how long ago the Mueller report was released and how many charges it'd already clinched convictions for by itself, I think the prosecutors have been beyond prepared for the day he gets out this whole time.

    ....

    Edit: Speaking of Russia... What is going on?

    Nordic authorities say they detected slightly increased levels of radioactivity in northern Europe this month that Dutch officials said may be from a source in western Russia and may “indicate damage to a fuel element in a nuclear power plant.” But Russian news agency TASS, citing a spokesman with the state nuclear power operator Rosenergoatom., reported that the two nuclear power plans in northwestern Russia haven’t reported any problems. The Leningrad plant near St. Petersburg and the Kola plant near the northern city of Murmansk, “operate normally, with radiation levels being within the norm,” Tass said.
    Last edited by demagogue; 28th Jun 2020 at 12:29.

  20. #13795
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Why are the US Democrats so bad at this kind of stuff?



    I mean, they even need their opponent to drive their voter turnout for them:

    https://www.mediaite.com/election-20...nt-in-florida/

    For years, Republican voters in Florida have requested mail-in ballots in large numbers, with about thirty percent of their general election turnout voting by mail, benefitting the get-out-the-vote efforts of Republican campaigns, a critical tactic in America’s largest and most consequential swing state.

    In 2020, however, the advantage appears to be shifting left, with Florida Democrats outpacing Republicans in mail-in ballot enrollments by a stunning margin of more than 300,000, per a new report in Politico.

    While Florida Democrats have been increasing their efforts to encourage both their most ardent supporters and new or infrequent voters to sign up for to vote by mail, they appear to have been aided by an unlikely source: President Donald Trump, who has been very vocal about his thoughts about the risk of election fraud from mail-in ballots.

    Trump himself has publicly mused that mail-in ballots may doom his chances at re-election, but instead of trying to encourage his own voters to vote by mail, he’s done the opposite, and polls show his supporters have significantly soured on the idea of voting by mail.
    [...]

  21. #13796
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    Registered: Sep 2013
    Quote Originally Posted by demagogue View Post
    Speaking of Russia... What is going on?
    According to https://www.rivm.nl/en/news/radioact...orthern-Europe, the nuclides come "from the direction" of western Russia but don't necessarily "originate in" western Russia. Let them work it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by demagogue View Post
    For the record, what made the alleged pee scene bad was not the actual urination, but the fact he commanded them to pee in the bed because the Obamas had slept there. He allegedly refused to touch the bed himself. And if I had money, I'd be willing to bet the n-word came out of him more than a few times.
    So what you're saying is, Black Kompromat Matters?
    Last edited by nemyax; 29th Jun 2020 at 03:16.

  22. #13797
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2019
    Location: Restaurant at end of universe

    More Trump fodder

    Here is a article of Trump complaining about Apple & Google on their tracking people saying, 'big constitutional problems' :

    https://appleinsider.com/articles/20...ional-problems

    Here is a MIT article saying Trump is tracking users of his app:

    https://www.technologyreview.com/202...rdinary-scope/


    I'm just shocked and amazed that Trump could be violating the Constitution.

  23. #13798
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2002
    Location: In the flesh.
    Shocked. SHOCKED I SAY that there could be gambling going on in this establishment! Here are your winnings, Sir. Oh thank you.

  24. #13799
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    AdminShock2 - When a rogue AI (Artificial Imbecile) threatens to destroy the world, it's up to you to stop it, using only social media and antiquated bulletin boards.

  25. #13800
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Soooooo... Trump knew that Russia was offering bounties to the Taliban, for killing American soldiers and he did nothing about it. Well not nothing but nothing appropriate. He has been hob-knobbing with Vlad, phone chats on the hotline, and trying to wrangle him a seat at the next G7+1. Our Prime Minister had to speak up for the Continent and say, No, Mr. Putin, you are not invited.

    No real categorical response from Trump and dead silence from the GOP.

    Nothing here either. Sooooooooo..... are you all crypto-republicans? Did the moral black-hole that is Donald Trump lure you to its swampy event horizon?
    Last edited by Nicker; 1st Jul 2020 at 01:46. Reason: ? .

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