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  • 1 Term (4 Years)

    26 18.06%
  • 2 Terms (8 Years)

    51 35.42%
  • 1st Term Impeachment/Assassination

    50 34.72%
  • 2nd Term Impeachment/Assassination

    4 2.78%
  • I don't know what's going on!

    13 9.03%
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Thread: ✮✮✮ !Trump Dump! ✮✮✮

  1. #13926
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: Land of the crazy
    Quote Originally Posted by Gryzemuis View Post
    I think it is. If you just say "Trump bad", then all his supporters (and maybe more) are not gonna listen to you. One thing Trump (and the Republicans, even the ones earlier) do, is say: "look at those folks. they are bad. therefor they are the enemy". They don't want their voters to listen to anything the Democrats say. They don't want their voters to trust any Democrat. They want to cultivate constant conflict. Just like "the commies are coming" or "the terrorist are coming". I was always wondering who would be next. It turns out it is: "watch out, the democrats are coming".

    If you want to fight the Republicans, you can not do the same thing. You need to stay correct and focused. Have a true discussion. Point out the details. Or else you're gonna be just like them.
    A year ago I would have agreed. But now that's I've seen how the base of the Republican party responded to impeachment and COVID-19, I'm convinced there's 35-40% of the population who are too far gone to be reachable for at least the next few election cycles. It doesn't matter how mature, well reasoned, and compelling your argument is. No matter what you say, once they figure out that you're not on their side, all they hear is "orange man bad". They're past the point of listening to expertise, science, history, or logic. And past the point of wanting to have discussions and debates about what's best for the country, which are necessary in a functioning democracy. They have shown they don't really care about democratic principles or ethics and the only use they have for public institutions is to further their interests. They have their own media, their own experts, and live in their own information space which is nearly impossible to penetrate.

    This election is not going to be decided by who has the best ideas and direction for the country or who can win debates. The polls don't matter. It's down to who can get voters to actually turn out in the middle of a pandemic, and that's where Republicans have an advantage.

  2. #13927
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Sadly I think it is also down to whether the GOP can suppress enough votes to question the results.

  3. #13928
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    This could go in the corona virus thread, but the punchline is really about the corruption of this administration. The US has the most covid19 cases in the world by far right now because the first states that got hit were democratic-leaning states, prompting them to commit to a state-by-state response approach. Search your heart; you know it's true.

    The White House response coordinator that was feeding them overly optimistic models carries a lot of blame too though. But that's what happens when you create a environment where people that say things the president doesn't want to hear get quickly booted out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vanity Fair, "How Jared Kushner’s Secret Testing Plan 'Went Poof Into Thin Air' "
    But the effort ran headlong into shifting sentiment at the White House. Trusting his vaunted political instincts, President Trump had been downplaying concerns about the virus and spreading misinformation about it—efforts that were soon amplified by Republican elected officials and right-wing media figures. Worried about the stock market and his reelection prospects, Trump also feared that more testing would only lead to higher case counts and more bad publicity. Meanwhile, Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House’s coronavirus response coordinator, was reportedly sharing models with senior staff that optimistically—and erroneously, it would turn out—predicted the virus would soon fade away.

    Against that background, the prospect of launching a large-scale national plan was losing favor, said one public health expert in frequent contact with the White House’s official coronavirus task force.

    Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner’s team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,” said the expert.

    That logic may have swayed Kushner. “It was very clear that Jared was ultimately the decision maker as to what [plan] was going to come out,” the expert said.
    Last edited by demagogue; 31st Jul 2020 at 19:23.

  4. #13929
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    The art of the deal:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...llion-n1235252

    WASHINGTON — Throughout the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump has repeatedly touted his administration's supply of ventilators, a critical tool for treating patients with life-threatening respiratory symptoms.

    But internal emails and documents obtained by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee suggest that the Trump administration failed to enforce an existing contract with a major medical manufacturer, delayed negotiations for more than a month and subsequently overpaid as much as $500 million for tens of thousands of the devices — a costly error at a time when officials from some of the biggest states were warning of shortages.
    [...]
    All the fascist pageantry aside, you'd think that just the sheer incompetence and mismanagement and corruption alone would be a deal-breaker. It's clear that the guy doesn't know how to govern, doesn't even want to govern, and in fact does not care much about anything other than what he can get out of it. He doesn't give a rat's ass about people dying on his watch or the economic hardships they suffer. If anything, he probably thinks it's their fault and wholly deserved for making him look bad.

    The way I see it, the choice for US citizens is clear -- do you want four more years of whatever this has been, but this time on steroids and completely unhinged?

  5. #13930
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: The Plateaux Of Mirror

  6. #13931
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by demagogue View Post
    This could go in the corona virus thread, but the punchline is really about the corruption of this administration.
    I only now got around to reading the article, but holy crap is this dark. Getting people killed through ineptitude is already bad, but killing people because they thought it would benefit them politically is just... wow...

  7. #13932
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Welcome to the twilight of America, yo.

  8. #13933
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    https://www.newyorker.com/humor/boro...sult-in-voting

    WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Calling the situation a “total disaster,” Donald J. Trump warned on Sunday that the use of mail-in ballots could result in voting.

    Appearing on Fox News, Trump said that there were “all kinds of studies” showing a “direct link” between mail-in ballots and votes cast.

    “Wherever you’ve had mail-in ballots, there have been widespread cases of voting,” he said. “We’re not going to let that happen.”
    [...]
    Note: this is satire and not a real thing Lord Dampnut said (publicly). At this time of writing.

  9. #13934
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Hey everybody, it's DISTRACTION TIME!!!

    Donny's mad and he's gona' get even with TikTok!!!

    "As far as TikTok is concerned, we're banning them from the United States," Trump said to reporters while aboard Air Force One.

    Trump said he could use emergency economic powers or an executive order. It was not immediately clear what such an order would look like and what legal challenges it might face.

    "Well, I have that authority," he said.
    Cybersecurity experts have said TikTok's potential risk to national security is largely theoretical and that there is no evidence to suggest that TikTok's user data has been compromised by Chinese intelligence.
    Last edited by Nicker; 3rd Aug 2020 at 03:29.

  10. #13935
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    One parodist gets under his skin and he wants to ban an entire platform.

  11. #13936
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Well, he has that authority.............

    I was thinking the humiliation they delivered with over subscribing his Tulsa rally but Sarah probably left some road rash too.

  12. #13937
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Yeah, she's adorable and the one where Lord Dampnut brags about passing his dementia test is just gold.

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