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    33 19.76%
  • 2 Terms (8 Years)

    56 33.53%
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    51 30.54%
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    6 3.59%
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    21 12.57%
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  1. #17026
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    Registered: Aug 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Starker View Post
    The people who believe that the FBI is some kind of woke leftist organisation in the pocket of the libs are so far gone they've overtaken Voyager 1 and 2 by now.
    Not wrong, but... Sadly, these are FAR from the most deluded amongst the right-wing.

    Documents marked as classified found at Pence's residence, today. Does anybody not have a few tucked away for a rainy day?

  2. #17027
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    It's slowly getting to the point where you'll have to be suspicious of people who *don't* have classified documents stashed away at their private residences.

  3. #17028
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: The other Derry
    It has to be infuriating for the millions of people who would lose their career if they made a similar "innocent" mistake.

  4. #17029
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Or who lost their lives for selling secrets to the Russians.

  5. #17030
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    New York Times chronicles the trials and tribulations of the Durham expedition:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/26/u...ssia-barr.html

    WASHINGTON — It became a regular litany of grievances from President Donald J. Trump and his supporters: The investigation into his 2016 campaign’s ties to Russia was a witch hunt, they maintained, that had been opened without any solid basis, went on too long and found no proof of collusion.

    Egged on by Mr. Trump, Attorney General William P. Barr set out in 2019 to dig into their shared theory that the Russia investigation likely stemmed from a conspiracy by intelligence or law enforcement agencies. To lead the inquiry, Mr. Barr turned to a hard-nosed prosecutor named John H. Durham, and later granted him special counsel status to carry on after Mr. Trump left office.

    But after almost four years — far longer than the Russia investigation itself — Mr. Durham’s work is coming to an end without uncovering anything like the deep state plot alleged by Mr. Trump and suspected by Mr. Barr.

    Moreover, a monthslong review by The New York Times found that the main thrust of the Durham inquiry was marked by some of the very same flaws — including a strained justification for opening it and its role in fueling partisan conspiracy theories that would never be charged in court — that Trump allies claim characterized the Russia investigation.

    Interviews by The Times with more than a dozen current and former officials have revealed an array of previously unreported episodes that show how the Durham inquiry became roiled by internal dissent and ethical disputes as it went unsuccessfully down one path after another even as Mr. Trump and Mr. Barr promoted a misleading narrative of its progress.

    * Mr. Barr and Mr. Durham never disclosed that their inquiry expanded in the fall of 2019, based on a tip from Italian officials, to include a criminal investigation into suspicious financial dealings related to Mr. Trump. The specifics of the tip and how they handled the investigation remain unclear, but Mr. Durham brought no charges over it.

    * Mr. Durham used Russian intelligence memos — suspected by other U.S. officials of containing disinformation — to gain access to emails of an aide to George Soros, the financier and philanthropist who is a favorite target of the American right and Russian state media. Mr. Durham used grand jury powers to keep pursuing the emails even after a judge twice rejected his request for access to them. The emails yielded no evidence that Mr. Durham has cited in any case he pursued.

    * There were deeper internal fractures on the Durham team than previously known. The publicly unexplained resignation in 2020 of his No. 2 and longtime aide, Nora R. Dannehy, was the culmination of a series of disputes between them over prosecutorial ethics. A year later, two more prosecutors strongly objected to plans to indict a lawyer with ties to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign based on evidence they warned was too flimsy, and one left the team in protest of Mr. Durham’s decision to proceed anyway. (A jury swiftly acquitted the lawyer.)

    Now, as Mr. Durham works on a final report, the interviews by The Times provide new details of how he and Mr. Barr sought to recast the scrutiny of the 2016 Trump campaign’s myriad if murky links to Russia as unjustified and itself a crime.

    [...]

  6. #17031
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Maupertuis
    Quote Originally Posted by Sulphur View Post
    And the last few posts have been about something actually interesting and/or useful in comparison to whatever Trump's sad orange blowfish ass has been up to.
    Oh, thank you! Participating in CommChat feels like sitting at the end of the table at a restaurant, where everybody else already knows each other. I rarely feel I can contribute. So you can picture my tensorial excursion as the awkward geek butting it to ramble at length on a non-sequitur, to everyone's mild discomfort.

  7. #17032
    Administrator
    Registered: Oct 2000
    Location: Athens of the North
    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchic Fox View Post
    as the awkward geek butting it to ramble at length on a non-sequitur
    That's a pre-requisite for membership here, you're good

  8. #17033
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Maupertuis
    Quote Originally Posted by Al_B View Post
    That's a pre-requisite for membership here, you're good
    Good to know!

    Sadly I can't be awkward as I please, because it ties into my disorder. Saying something that transgresses eventually leads to suicidal thoughts. (There's no risk of suicide. It's part of my disorder to have my subconscious shout "KILL YOURSELF" whenever I remember any of a large class of events.)

    ...Oversharing is less risky, oddly enough.

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