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View Poll Results: How long will Trump be President?

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  • 1 Term (4 Years)

    35 19.89%
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    62 35.23%
  • 1st Term Impeachment/Assassination

    51 28.98%
  • 2nd Term Impeachment/Assassination

    6 3.41%
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    22 12.50%
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  1. #17601
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    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: The other Derry
    Quote Originally Posted by RippedPhreak View Post
    Read it again.

    The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

    Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.



    So clearly if he had been impeached and then convicted by the Senate, he would have not only been removed from office, he would have been disqualified from holding future office. So Congress had its chance to DQ him and didn't. The Rachel Maddow/Jon Stewart/Keith Olbermann types are simply lying to you.
    Impeachment only applies to the President, Vice President and civil Officers of the United States. Trump is none of those things. He's an ordinary citizen now, and Congress can't impeach an ordinary citizen.

    The real question is whether you can bar someone from office who is only accused of insurrection but hasn't been convicted of it. SCOTUS punted on that, which leaves the door open for a party who holds majorities in both houses and the Presidency to bar opposition candidates from office by act of legislation, without needing a conviction or other legal judgment.

  2. #17602
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    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: The other Derry
    Quote Originally Posted by Tocky View Post
    Did anyone catch senator Britts rebuttal to the State of the Union? LOL I have never seen a worse acting job in my life and the contradictions were mind boggling. First she says how we should keep the immigrants in Mexico then goes on some tear stained speech about the cartels there raping and trafficking women. Well duh. You want to keep those women over there on that side for that! Then she says how proud she is of her state for the invitro fertilization mess. Mind boggling. Then she talks about credit cards but forgets that Biden has a bill to cut the percent they can charge if only Republicans will pass it. She must think we are as nutty as she is. And the wheedling tear stained acting and appeals to kitchen table gawd bless American values bullshit was so over the top. I was blown away that she thought that crap could fly to anyone with a brain.
    I didn't watch either speech, but I had a pretty good idea of how the night went when the right wing media here in NH didn't say a word about it the next day. If they can't spin it, it must have been bad. I did see Tommy Tuberville defending it by calling her a housewife over and over, and I'm not sure that helps their cause with independent women voters. When Republicans get their asses kicked again in November, do you suppose they will finally wake up and realize they are being led into irrelevance by a clown?

  3. #17603
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    Registered: Feb 2002
    Location: In the flesh.
    No. They will never look in the mirror because of what they would find. They have seen that flag clutching fool attempt to end our system of voting by trying to block the constitutional turnover of power and had to abandon all of their "family values" for him. They will never admit they are wrong about the previous president. Best they can do is try to stop women and young people from voting. And minorities, can't forget those, have to redraw voting district lines and limit polling places to stop them.

  4. #17604
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    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Britt's response was super cringe. She had this consistent emotional wobble in her voice like somebody that can't contain their emotion, but a lot of what she was saying was muddled and confused.

    The part about it being in the kitchen and playing up traditional womanhood... Some people value that kind of thing. I'm not gonna lecture women on what kind of life they should lead in their private life. But it's surreal for a political response in public life. It captures this moment in political time I guess. We always knew there was going to come a day when it was the Right that took up Identity Politics and empty virtue signalling, and here we are.

  5. #17605
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    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: The other Derry
    There was a backlash to BLM and I think conservatives mistook it as a backlash against liberalism in general. Religious conservative values aren't selling to independents. Apparently, most suburban women voters aren't looking to go back to being objectified and subservient to men, stuck at home cooking and cleaning, trapped in unfulfilling and sometimes abusive marriages the church says they can't leave, forced to have unwanted babies, socially ostracized if they're independent, etc. They're not selling well to moderate Republicans either, as evidenced by the decline of Ron DeSantis after he leaned hard into it.

  6. #17606
    DeSantis never had any chance whatsoever. Nor did Haley. I guess they figured might as well toss their hats in the ring in case the Democrats arrest Trump and he mysteriously "commits suicide" one night in his cell while the cameras accidentally get turned off and the guards take a long smoke break.

    Other than that happening, zero chance for either of them.

  7. #17607
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    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: The Plateaux Of Mirror
    Quote Originally Posted by demagogue View Post
    Britt's response was super cringe. She had this consistent emotional wobble in her voice like somebody that can't contain their emotion, but a lot of what she was saying was muddled and confused.
    For a minute I thought I was on the wrong website and it was the intro to some weird political-themed porno.

  8. #17608
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    Registered: Jun 2001
    Location: under God's grace
    I had no idea who this Britt was, never heard of her. But I watched her speech. She tries hard to sound convincing, but she ends up sounding over the top emotional and fake. Her acting looks like she's acting. My advice to her would be to be natural and more direct. No need for theater.

    But then the content. She kept on talking about the border crisis. Did she forget that the Reps were offered a border deal that they then refused without explaining what they wanted?

  9. #17609
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    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: The other Derry
    Quote Originally Posted by RippedPhreak View Post
    DeSantis never had any chance whatsoever. Nor did Haley. I guess they figured might as well toss their hats in the ring in case the Democrats arrest Trump and he mysteriously "commits suicide" one night in his cell while the cameras accidentally get turned off and the guards take a long smoke break.

    Other than that happening, zero chance for either of them.
    You're right about that.

    But if Republicans had gotten behind Haley, I think she would have easily wiped the floor with Biden.

  10. #17610
    Haley is just another establishment tool. It's not surprising that she got overwhelming levels of support in DC. Shw would have simply continued the policies that are causing America to spiral into collapse currently.

  11. #17611
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    Registered: Feb 2002
    Location: In the flesh.
    Please. Maybe YOU are spiraling into collapse. The rest of us are fine.

  12. #17612
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    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Quote Originally Posted by RippedPhreak View Post
    Trump and he mysteriously "commits suicide" one night in his cell while the cameras accidentally get turned off and the guards take a long smoke break.
    OK, you're not serious

  13. #17613
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    Registered: Jun 2009
    Location: The Spiraling Sea
    Quote Originally Posted by RippedPhreak View Post
    Haley is just another establishment tool. It's not surprising that she got overwhelming levels of support in DC. Shw would have simply continued the policies that are causing America to spiral into collapse currently.
    Nikki Haley is one of the many puppets of the centralized controllers. They play both sides, even though dominating democrats via sufficient infiltration.

  14. #17614
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    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: The other Derry
    If you want to know who is controlled, note how easily Trump flipped on TikTok right after meeting Jeff Yass, and how many of his supporters flipped right with him.

  15. #17615
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    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Quote Originally Posted by heywood View Post
    If you want to know who is controlled, note how easily Trump flipped on TikTok right after meeting Jeff Yass, and how many of his supporters flipped right with him.
    Exactly.

  16. #17616
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Well, fucking well, fucking well.

    Look who crawled out from under his rotting log. James Comey the tall, cool turd who dumped Trump in the world's lap.



    Why are you here, Jimmy? To apologize. To hang your head in shame? No? Say what? Flogging a fucking book? How about you flush yourself instead, you execrable excuse for human shaped protoplasm.

    I hope it's printed on toilet paper.

  17. #17617
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Heaven forbid government agents respond to half the country's principal concern in that election.

    It's a hell of a choice. Pretend 80+ million MAGA supporters and their concerns about government corruption or woke partisanship simply don't exist, giving them a compelling motivation to torch the constitution and facilitate authoritarinism, what Comey reasonably didn't want to do, or hand them a platform to torch the constitution and facilitate authoritarinism directly, what Comey (& a lot of people) didn't realize that was he was doing inadvertently at the time. We're screwed either way, but it's important to recognize where the problem lies.

  18. #17618
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    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Comey did not have to do what he did.

    Maga's "concerns" were manufactured. Hillary's "crimes" were manufactured. Trump's election crimes were real.

    Comey chose to shine a light on the Clinton allegations and ignore those against Trump. That's where the problem really lies.

    If he had shut the fuck up, like he was supposed to, millions of people would be alive today, and the world would be an infinitely better place.
    Last edited by Nicker; 21st May 2024 at 22:53.

  19. #17619
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    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: The other Derry
    Clinton's crimes weren't manufactured, they were real. They pale in comparison to Trump's, but that's not a comparison that could be made in 2016, and a good LEO shouldn't be using relativistic judgment and political considerations in deciding what investigations to reveal or keep secret.

  20. #17620
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    Registered: Jan 2024
    Location: Egyptian Afterlife
    Somebody in the political spheres fears Trump becoming president again, as they have done everything they can to stop him. Excepting the obvious I wonder what they fear from Trump as a President.

  21. #17621
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    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Heywood: Fair enough. Good point.

    DD: Seriously? What's to fear, electing the man who would turn the USA into North Korea, only more and more powerful?




    And if you need moving pictures to titillate your attention span...


    Last edited by Nicker; 22nd May 2024 at 08:46.

  22. #17622
    Somebody in the political spheres fears Trump becoming president again, as they have done everything they can to stop him. Excepting the obvious I wonder what they fear from Trump as a President.
    I wish Trump was half as hard core as these bedwetting crybabies fear he is. Trump is a known quantity. He got nothing done last time, and he will get nothing done this time. The entire DC apparatus will again form a united front to resist everything he tries to do. (If he's even allowed to win which I still doubt)

  23. #17623
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    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Quote Originally Posted by RippedPhreak View Post
    I wish Trump was half as hard core as these bedwetting crybabies fear he is. Trump is a known quantity. He got nothing done last time, and he will get nothing done this time. The entire DC apparatus will again form a united front to resist everything he tries to do. (If he's even allowed to win which I still doubt)
    When you'll realize he's NOT INTERESTED in doing anything? Trump is not (NOT) interested in politics even as a president. There's no need of an "opposing establishment", being "anti-system" is just the same old electoral story to get voted and that's all.
    And that's why he's dangerous, he's a totally incompetent narcissist who just wants "support" to "triumph".

  24. #17624
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    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Quote Originally Posted by RippedPhreak View Post
    I wish Trump was half as hard core as these bedwetting crybabies fear he is. Trump is a known quantity. He got nothing done last time, and he will get nothing done this time. The entire DC apparatus will again form a united front to resist everything he tries to do. (If he's even allowed to win which I still doubt)
    Do you meant THESE bedwetting cry-babies, the GOP in Congress who just now made a new rule that Members are not allowed to make critical remarks about tRump or to even state objective facts about him, like the fact that he presently on trial for criminal activity?




    Those cry-babies?

    He got nothing done last time...
    Nonsense. He killed a million Americans. How is that nothing?

  25. #17625
    When you'll realize he's NOT INTERESTED in doing anything? Trump is not (NOT) interested in politics even as a president. There's no need of an "opposing establishment", being "anti-system" is just the same old electoral story to get voted and that's all.
    Then you agree with me that all the foamed-mouth rage against him is pointless and silly?


    He killed a million Americans. How is that nothing?
    I hope you're not referring to Covid. Are you really implying that if Hillary had been president, Covid would not have appeared? So...Trump personally brought the virus into the USA? Sounds like a conspiracy theory.

    Or that "his response" was lacking? What I recall is that Trump turned over the federal response to Fauci and Birks and the CDC. So are you saying those entities failed? Trust the Science there buddy.

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