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Thread: Brief Summaries of all the missions. T1/TG/T2/T3/TDM

  1. #51
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    Registered: May 2005
    I would like to play Mine Shock for Thief 1 on NewDark 1.27. I downloaded all DMLs by voodoo47, but the dml for Mine Shock does not seem to be in the archive. Am I missing something?

  2. #52
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    Registered: Oct 2012
    With this mission these is no dml, Voodoo got permission from JIS to fix Mine Shock and made a new miss20.mis file.

    Looks like Voodoo has deleted a number of fixes from his repository since he released the latest TFix that includes FMdml package, but it looks like FMdml loads the new miss20.mis file for this mission as it is included in his FMdml release notes.

    Here's a copy of the good miss20.mis file. Extract this new miss20.mis file from it's zip and replace the bad miss20.mis file in Mine Shock folder.

    Only put in TG/FMSel/Mineshock folder or replace the miss20.mis file in your Mineshock FM folder and then reinstall Mine Shock patched with the good miss20.mis file

    Do NOT place it in your TG main Root folder.
    Last edited by fortuni; 15th Aug 2019 at 03:20.

  3. #53
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    Registered: May 2005
    You are awesome, fortuni! With voodoo47's modified miss20.mis file, I am able to play the mission without crashes on NewDark 1.27.

  4. #54
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    Registered: Jan 2014
    Just wanted to note two corrections to my mission Shadows of Northdale Act 1

    "The first mission in a trilogy by Goldwell is a small, but superbly designed, thieves highway FM that has you investigating the murder of a neighbour, Jordan Rivington. Using rooftops, vents, ledges and apartments to clamber all over the map, you'll also find 7 secrets, some of which are very well hidden."

    It's the first mission in a five part campaign.

    Also it's Jordan Wiverton.

    That is all

  5. #55
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    Registered: May 2005
    Carneval (T2, Demo) is on the list, but Bruder Snuck (T2, Demo) is not.

    Down in the Old Vault was released in 2019.

  6. #56
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    Registered: Oct 2012
    Quote Originally Posted by View Post
    Carneval (T2, Demo) is on the list, but Bruder Snuck (T2, Demo) is not.
    Yes it was, but I had spelt in Bruder Snack, but was suitable misspelling as is only a bite sized mission.

    Quote Originally Posted by View Post
    Down in the Old Vault was released in 2019.
    Amended, thanks

  7. #57
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    Registered: Oct 2012
    With all the T2 dmls now included in as an optional extra with T2Fix up to and including 2006 (2007 dmls will included within a couple of months hopefully), is there any need for me to continue adding the individual dml links to their respective entries in the Brief Summaries tables.

    I would be particularly interested to here the opinion players who load the dml's manually or are most players now relying on T2Fix and the FMdml option.

  8. #58
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    Registered: Apr 2011
    Quote Originally Posted by fortuni View Post
    With all the T2 dmls now included in as an optional extra with T2Fix up to and including 2006 (2007 dmls will included within a couple of months hopefully), is there any need for me to continue adding the individual dml links to their respective entries in the Brief Summaries tables.

    I would be particularly interested to here the opinion players who load the dml's manually or are most players now relying on T2Fix and the FMdml option.
    I'd generally prefer to install dmls manually, but not really for any principled reasons. I wasn't actually aware of FMdml until just now! I have been searching individual mission threads for dmls. That said, I think your brief summaries index is invaluable, and the dml links are definitely a useful addition to it.

  9. #59
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    Registered: Mar 2018
    Quote Originally Posted by fortuni View Post
    With all the T2 dmls now included in as an optional extra with T2Fix up to and including 2006 (2007 dmls will included within a couple of months hopefully), is there any need for me to continue adding the individual dml links to their respective entries in the Brief Summaries tables.

    I would be particularly interested to here the opinion players who load the dml's manually or are most players now relying on T2Fix and the FMdml option.
    I would be really happy if you would continue putting links to dml fixes in Brief Summaries thread. I'm using Tafferpatcher and yes, I could install T2Fix. But I don't see the point for that. T2Fix is still young, so bugs still pops out. Tafferpatcher isn't perfect either, but for me it's more compatible than T2Fix currently is. For example: I had no technical problem with any of T2 Anniversary missions, but I saw comments from people using latest T2Fix about scripts not working correctly.

    The first thing I do when trying a mission, I check Brief Summaries thread for some info about fixes, then I check what this fixes change. Sometimes dml fixes don't change gameplay, only look. Sometimes they prevent from mantling to some places. And I prefer to have every advantage in the mission, even if it's not intended. Besides I want to have a choice if I want to install dml fix or not.

  10. #60
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    Registered: Oct 2012
    Thanks for feedback guys, will carry on posting most links in BS thread.

    Just to let you know as only Jax is now making dml's I will not be reporting minor misplaced objects to him any more as they are fiddly to fix and they require very precise work, so is unreasonable to ask one man to spend too much time on such minor issues, but we will carry on fixing glaringly obvious misplaced objects that just look stupid. However if it's only one or 2 misplaced objects fixed I may choose not add that dml to the BS thread, but I will carry on adding all game breaking issues, end game stats issues, fix secrets and objectives etc.

    @Galaer
    Jax would be interested in any reported scripts issues with regard to T2Fix.

    The latest T2Fix 1.27b has to many updated scripts to mention and even some fixes for recently discovered ND issues, whether the reports you saw were related to 1.27b or earlier could be significant.

  11. #61
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    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA, Earth
    I also very much appreciate having the .dmls linked in the mission descriptions in this thread. I like to experience the missions as close to the original as possible, only applying absolutely necessary fixes. The information this thread gives me is invaluable in that regard.

  12. #62
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    Registered: May 2005
    Individual dml links in the brief summaries tables are very useful. I always check the thread and install dmls manually if necessary.

  13. #63
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    Registered: May 2005
    Found a missing Thief 2 FM: Dread Complex 1: The Chaos Begins.

  14. #64
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2012
    That FM is not being added to brief summaries under any circumstances.

    It was also withdrawn by the author is so excluded automatically, thank the Builder.
    Last edited by fortuni; 16th Sep 2020 at 14:47.

  15. #65
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    Registered: May 2005
    Dread Complex owns! It is such a fascinating train wreck. Where did you see a post in which the author withdrew the mission?

  16. #66
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    Registered: May 2008
    Location: Southern,California
    i play this mission 2 things i liked a lot the one room where the sword turned red also liked how the toolbox opened without lid shaking

  17. #67
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2012
    Quote Originally Posted by View Post
    Where did you see a post in which the author withdrew the mission?
    Discovered it had been officially withdrawn when I was compiling the FM Loader guide, can’t remember how I discovered that, may have been informed by someone who was around at the time. Often missions that are withdrawn don’t have a public announcement as such rather they are quietly put to bed.

    Having said that I think everyone should play DC simply as an object lesson as to how not to make a mission, it’s truly terrible on every level, but wonderfully memorable at the same time, quite an achievement.

  18. #68
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    Registered: May 2005
    Quote Originally Posted by fortuni View Post
    I think everyone should play DC simply as an object lesson as to how not to make a mission, it’s truly terrible on every level, but wonderfully memorable at the same time, quite an achievement.
    Hey, you’ve already written the brief summary for the list.

  19. #69
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    Registered: Jul 2003
    Location: United Kingdom
    Say, where's "The Good Samaritan" in the T2 section?

    TAFFERS!

    EDIT:

    And what's all this .dml thingy that's going on?

    WHAT HAVE YOU GUYS DONE TO DROMED!
    Last edited by Sluggs; 18th Sep 2020 at 14:35.

  20. #70
    Sluggs, where ya been man?

    (And btw, Good Samaritan is in there).

  21. #71
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2003
    Location: United Kingdom
    Oh, so it is! (I was looking for it under "T")

    Strange that though; other FM's that started with "The" were under "T"... I swear it!

    PS. I have been internetless!

  22. #72
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    Registered: Jun 2004
    I can't access the Voodoo DMLs. Is there another place where those could be posted?

  23. #73
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    Registered: May 2005
    About "Night in the Old Quarter, A" in the list: According to the mission info file, the correct title is "Night in Old Quarter, A".

  24. #74
    Member
    Registered: May 2005
    The DML fix for Walkin‘ Da Moon! should be linked in the summary.

  25. #75
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2012
    Didn't want to start a new thread but thought players would like to know that Jax has recently updated T2Fix to 1.27e, available here.

    Along with a number of fixes (see changelog) the updated FMdml package has got about 70-80 new dml's, which covers almost all T2 missions 2000-2008

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