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Thread: Thief: The Dark Project 20th Anniversary Contest!

  1. #201
    Southquarter.com/fms
    Registered: Apr 2000
    Location: The Akkala Highlands
    Quote Originally Posted by Haplo View Post
    To all the authors taking part in this contest...I strongly recommend you to read this thread: http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149207
    Basically if you have any markers with NVRelayTrap, they will most likely be broken for the players who use TFix and haven't upgraded to TFix 1.26a or newer. You might want to take preventive action while there is still time (add a similar script loading check, or redo your markers).
    Isn't requiring the latest Tfix enough? Authors do that same thing often with New Dark.

  2. #202
    Member
    Registered: May 2008
    Location: Southern,California
    stawik, i mentioned this twice i think and was ignored ,good luck,but my reasons for wanting them released staggered was for my own selfish reasons :P
    Last edited by downwinder; 11th Oct 2018 at 19:54. Reason: added more

  3. #203
    Master Builder 2018
    Registered: Jan 2008
    Location: The lovers the dreamers and me
    Quote Originally Posted by stawik View Post
    I don't know how many missions there will be in the contest, but one month to play, let's say 5 isn't a long time...
    I'm a old time thief fan, but a working, father of 2 right now.
    Skacky, maybe you'll reconsider releasing missions as they are being submitted or more time to play them? End of January?

    greetings from Poland
    Motion thirded. Maybe we could extend the vote date?

  4. #204
    Master Builder 2018
    Registered: Jan 2008
    Location: The lovers the dreamers and me
    Quote Originally Posted by pukey brunster View Post
    Motion thirded. Maybe we could extend the vote date?

    (not the submission date.. the vote date.. many people have lives, just sayin)

  5. #205
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2005
    Location: The Inverted Manse
    Quote Originally Posted by Brethren View Post
    Isn't requiring the latest Tfix enough? Authors do that same thing often with New Dark.
    Yes, but it doesn't mean people will remember to update or know how to. This is why I prefer having a script checking mechanism at the start. With such a mechanism the players with old TFix will get a warning telling them the scripts are not working and showing them how to fix it. Without it, the players will end up posting messages like "I read the book and pulled the lever, but nothing happened!" on the forum, sending the author on a wild goose chase.

  6. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by Yandros View Post
    Today, I've been trying to get a status from all the authors who I'm aware of through private conversation, or who posted screens in the screenshot thread. Here's what I have so far:

    No
    Brethren
    Random_Taffer (unless merged w/Yandros' mission)
    goldwell

    Maybe
    skacky & Squadafroinx
    Tannar & PukeyBee
    bbb

    Probably
    JarlFrank, marbleman and FrenchDecay
    SneakyGuy101
    Grandmauden
    vfig
    StinkyKitty & McTaffer

    And Yes
    Yandros (may merge w/R_T's mission)
    DrK
    Melan
    Firemage
    Mystery Author
    Le MAlin 76
    GORT
    vegetables
    Haplo
    -Terra-

    Need to confirm
    SilverJackal
    Phantom
    mtk


    If you are working on a mission and are not on the list or are in the wrong category, or you are in the "Need to confirm" category (which means you probably posted screenshots here but I haven't spoken to you recently), please either post here or PM me with the status of your contest mission. I will update the list above as I hear from people.
    My map is finished and during beta tests atm

  7. #207
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2011
    Location: Montpellier, France
    I have received another submission today! I have also extended the voting period by adding an additional month.

  8. #208
    New Member
    Registered: May 2015
    Quote Originally Posted by skacky View Post
    I have received another submission today! I have also extended the voting period by adding an additional month.

  9. #209
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2000
    Location: Lexington, KY
    Quote Originally Posted by Yandros View Post
    Today, I've been trying to get a status from all the authors who I'm aware of through private conversation, or who posted screens in the screenshot thread. Here's what I have so far:

    No
    Brethren
    Random_Taffer (unless merged w/Yandros' mission)
    goldwell

    Maybe
    skacky & Squadafroinx
    Tannar & PukeyBee
    bbb

    Probably
    JarlFrank, marbleman and FrenchDecay
    SneakyGuy101
    Grandmauden
    vfig
    StinkyKitty & McTaffer

    And Yes
    Yandros (may merge w/R_T's mission)
    DrK
    Melan
    Firemage
    Mystery Author
    Le MAlin 76
    GORT
    vegetables
    Haplo
    -Terra-

    Need to confirm
    SilverJackal
    Phantom
    mtk


    If you are working on a mission and are not on the list or are in the wrong category, or you are in the "Need to confirm" category (which means you probably posted screenshots here but I haven't spoken to you recently), please either post here or PM me with the status of your contest mission. I will update the list above as I hear from people.
    Mark me as Probably. I expect to be ready for beta testing the first week of November if nothing intervenes.

  10. #210
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2011
    For that matter, I'm definitely a "Yes". I'm still doing audio processing and movies and sorting out the last few bugs and hiccups before submitting sometime in November, but this is really all just final polish—the mission's essentially complete already.

  11. #211
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA, Earth
    Quote Originally Posted by skacky View Post
    I have received another submission today! I have also extended the voting period by adding an additional month.
    Thank you! Question: Do you have to have played all the missions to vote? Not sure about the voting format exactly. When I think about it, I've never voted in a contest before...

  12. #212
    Member
    Registered: May 2008
    Location: Southern,California
    i would say yes ,you have to play them all so its a fair contest for all people who spent so much time making these amazing missions for us to play,i saw they are going to extend voting time

  13. #213
    Desperately Dodgy Moderator
    Registered: Nov 2001
    Location: Fields of bluegrass
    I think klatremus was asking if you can vote for each mission individually after you play it instead of having to do them all at one go. I don't know, that depends on how Al B structures the poll I guess. In the past I recall being able to revisit the voting page multiple times, not having to vote for all of them, and even updating my votes I had cast earlier up to the deadline.

  14. #214
    Master Builder 2018
    Registered: Jul 2008
    The way the voting is usually structured, you do not have to have played them all to vote. You can vote only on the ones you've played. This isn't ideal, perhaps, but people have busy lives and may not have time to play them all. Most often, the voting is broken down into scoring each mission in several categories rather than a direct comparison between missions, so that makes it less of a problem if you've only played some of them.

  15. #215
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA, Earth
    downwinder: i dont think you understood my question. I would never vote for the best mission if i hadnt played all of them. I agree that wouldnt be fair.

    Tannar: Thank you, thats the type of voting id hope for. I assume it would be something along the lines of a percentile score in different categories, where the end result is an average of all the votes for that mission. That way it doesnt matter if one mission has more or less votes than another.

  16. #216
    Master Builder 2018
    Registered: Jul 2008
    Quote Originally Posted by klatremus View Post
    Tannar: I assume it would be something along the lines of a percentile score in different categories, where the end result is an average of all the votes for that mission. That way it doesn't matter if one mission has more or less votes than another.
    Yes, that's exactly right. I can't say for certain it will be that way, but that's the way it's been for all of the more recent contests.

  17. #217
    Member
    Registered: May 2008
    Location: Southern,California
    kal i am sorry i miss read it in a different way i understand now

    there is one downside to that,say you play one mission and its omg so good u are like wow and rate highly after playing,then you play a different mission and found it better but the rating on last game was say high and you cant go higher,then you in a bad spot,and if you under rate missions early on,they might turn out to be better ones in the end

    a good fix would be let a person rate a mission after each one they play but also allow them to edit votes as needed based on other missions,unless its ok for a mission to have a possible tied score in voting?

  18. #218
    Desperately Dodgy Moderator
    Registered: Nov 2001
    Location: Fields of bluegrass
    As I said earlier, you can generally go back and change your scores on each mission up until the deadline.

  19. #219
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2017
    Location: Denmark
    Quote Originally Posted by skacky View Post
    I have received another submission today! I have also extended the voting period by adding an additional month.
    Great news (both about the extra submission, but also about the extended voting period)... I wonder though if it still isn't long enough?
    As many here have pointed out, the Thief community has grown older, many people have jobs or kids or both.
    Currently we are (according to the list above) in for at least 10 amazing fan missions, with another 11 on the "Maybe", "Probably" and "Need to confirm" lists... With only 2 months for review that is between 3 and 6 days pr. mission on average, I am one of the aforementioned "grown old" guys, with two small'ish children and a full time job, and I'm pretty sure I won't be able to keep up a pace of completing 1 or 2 missions pr. week consistently for 2 months.
    Now obviously, just because one or a few people has a problem, dosn't mean everybody has to suffer or wait, but the missions have taken a year to complete, why do they have to be evaluated in a rush? I'm just putting this here for consideration.
    If it ends up that we will only have 2 months to review, I will have to see if a can make it, and if not having completed all missions means you can't vote, well, then so be it
    Good luk to those of you entering, and with putting the last finishing touches on the missions

  20. #220
    Desperately Dodgy Moderator
    Registered: Nov 2001
    Location: Fields of bluegrass
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommyph1208 View Post
    If it ends up that we will only have 2 months to review, I will have to see if a can make it, and if not having completed all missions means you can't vote, well, then so be it
    We just said a few posts above that it's OK to just vote on the missions you're able to play as you play them and it isn't necessary to play them all in order to vote (although it is of course preferable).

  21. #221
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2017
    Location: Denmark
    Quote Originally Posted by Yandros View Post
    We just said a few posts above that it's OK to just vote on the missions you're able to play as you play them and it isn't necessary to play them all in order to vote (although it is of course preferable).
    I read that as "thats how it used to be with previous competitions", not as a certainty that that is how its going to be again, which is why I added the "If"... Either way, I agree with you, it would be preferable if you actually played all entries when voting.

  22. #222
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2006
    Location: Nulli Secundi
    This is going to be awesome!!

  23. #223
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2011
    Location: Montpellier, France
    I have received a third submission! Keep them coming.

  24. #224
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2017
    Quote Originally Posted by skacky View Post
    I have received a third submission! Keep them coming.
    Excellent news, gentilhomme Skacky!

    Is anyone going to celebrate the submissions' deadline? I will have some delicious pumpkin juice, my favourite autumnal drink.

  25. #225
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2011
    Location: Montpellier, France
    One month left, taffers! Now would be a good time to start beta-testing if you haven't already.

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