Thief Mods subforum?

[voodoo47]

while Thief mods are not exactly numerous, there are a few of them floating around (and hopefully, their numbers will increase), but they are all hopelessly, hopelessly buried in the General discussion subforum.

so I'm thinking a subforum where all the mods would be easily accessible would be a good idea (systemshock.org style, so topics with downloads only, with only the staff allowed to create or move topics there).

[nickie]

We made a start in discussing reorganising Thief fora earlier this year but life gets manic and it rather fell by the wayside. I don't know about a subforum, (we'll need to talk about that but I'm in favour of a joint something for Gen and FMs) but we do want to organise technical information, including mods, so that all the information people need for Thief or fan missions is all in one place or directed to one place.

Realistically, I don't think any Thief moderators will be able to even think about this again before Spring next year. I'll pm you though, voodoo, to see if I can do anything to help in the meantime. Maybe lumping all the tech info into one sticky as a temporary measure might be useful.

[voodoo47]

ok, lets list them here for the time being - I'll start, anyone is free to contribute (pretty sure that there is stuff I'm not aware of lurking around);

Thief I + II Sound effects enhancement pack
Thief Enhancement Pack 2.0 alpha
Thief Enhancement Pack
Enhanced Water for Thief 2: The Metal Age
Necro Age 2.3
Thief Gold HD Texture Mod
Thief 2 HD Texture Mod
T2X HD Texture Mod
TG and T2 Carry Body mod
T1/2 Spider Hider
Gecko's HQ Water Mod Pack
GoldToDark - takes your gold away
Thief Deadly Shadows Gold
New Thief Gold subtitles patch
Thief 2: The Metal Age English Subtitiles
Thief Object Enhancement Pack
Thief Gold movies, heavy filtered and resized. Designed specifically for NewDark engine with its ffmpeg support
Toggleable Lantern
Alert Tracker Mod for Thief Gold/Thief2

[DarkThief Darek]

Sooo, I guess the Ultimate Difficulty Patch for T1/G and T2 would also fit on this list?
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49569

Downloads:
http://downloads.ttlg.com/download.aspx?id=1690 - T2
http://downloads.ttlg.com/download.aspx?id=1689 - T1/G

[nickie]

I think we're going to try and get this up and running sooner than I mentioned, voodoo, and I'm thinking of bribing Al_B with a bottle of Lagavulin or similar to organise it for us. It seems that every day it becomes more logical and important to do it a.s.a.p.

[voodoo47]

heey, look what got buried and forgotten for almost a year. maybe it's finally time to turn it into some sort of proper sticky somewhere?

[nickie]

You're absolutely right. I've 'dropped the ball' as they say on just about everything over the last 3 years. Not for want of love for TTLG or for organising things better but lack of energy mostly.

I doubt anyone who is up for the reorganisation, which is needed in Fan Missions as well, will be able to give any attention to this until after the TDP 20th Anniversary contest is over so perhaps you could you bump the thread in the middle of December to remind me to get a move on but in the meantime, I will start a staff thread about it so hopefully we don't forget that reorganisation is something we've been meaning to do for at least the last five years!

[vfig]

Some more:

Thief Gold English subtitles

Some language mods that are not on TTLG, but still useful to link to, for non-English speakers with English editions of the game:

Thief Gold French patch (text and most voices)
Thief Gold Italian patch (text only)
Thief Gold German patch (text and all voices)
Thief: Dark Project/Gold/Metal Age Russian patch (text and subtitles)

[Akven]

Thief 2 Refiltered Movies v1

[McTaffer]

vfig, you forgot to list your own mod!

[trudnicki]

This is very good idea. I am just now doing some file cataloging on my desktop / its a mess oh boy.. it will take forever to organize everything, i dont even want to look into my mp3 catalog but it has to be done /

My thief catalog is A MESS

Having everything in one place. I could just check if my files are up to date and delete old ones.

I have question according to scripts. I want to have most recent version divided into t1 t2 tg and ss2 games
there are following scripts to my knowledge

Nameless Voice which are divided into t2 and ss2, script and debug versions
Telliamed i have 2.1 version of those for t2,
GayleSaver for t1 and t2 divided also into user and devs.

Where can i download most recent version of all those scripts ? Preferably separate files.

Thanks for help in advance.

[voodoo47]

heey, look what got buried and forgotten for almost a year. maybe it's finally time to turn it into some sort of proper sticky somewhere?

and two more years have passed, maybe some moderator could construct one post where all the mods would be linked and sticky it? and maybe take a look at the FAQ while at it, it looks more broken than usual.

[nickie]

Doesn't time fly. I'll bring this thread to staff attention again.

[voodoo47]

I'm slightly puzzled by this being so complicated - I mean, one post from someone with moderator permissions, copy paste the content of my second post here (perhaps adding a few more links that were posted later by other users), topic name THIEF MODS HERE, post it in Thief Series General, set it as sticky, all done?

[Nameless Voice]

Voodoo, maybe you should just make the thread in ThiefGen and then ask the moderators to sticky it? Probably the easiest solution.

[voodoo47]

sure, if a moderator stickies it afterwards, I can do that.

[nickie]

I'm slightly puzzled by this being so complicated

You asked for a sub-forum. That's an admin only creation (I think).

Sure, if you create a new thread in Thief Gen, I'll sticky it.

[Renault]

A lot of this stuff is already mentioned in the "Installing the Thief Games" thread that's currently stickied in ThiefGen. Maybe just edit that?

[serg_kundel]

I think ESRGAN mods should also be in this list:
Thief Gold ESRGAN Pack
Thief II ESRGAN Pack
Thief: Deadly Shadows ESRGAN Pack

[ZylonBane]

Sticky threads are the bane of forums, because a) they inevitably multiply beyond the bounds of common sense, and b) most people develop "banner blindness" toward them.

The advantage of a dedicated mod forum is that it would consolidate mod listings without pushing the responsibility for maintaining a master list onto a moderator. It would also ensure that every mod has its own discussion thread.

It's also possible that elevating the visibility of Thief modding by giving it its own forum would encourage more mod creation.

[Renault]

You're talking about a separate forum where there is one thread per mod, and where your average user cannot start up a new thread to muck up the forum, right? That sounds ideal. Can't be too difficult to set up either.

[ZylonBane]

...and where your average user cannot start up a new thread to muck up the forum, right?

I certainly didn't say that. Preventing users from creating a thread for their own mods would rather undermine the entire point.

[Renault]

I was just assuming we were trying to avoid (for example) 10 random people starting 10 different threads with questions about T2Fix. Then after several months (or years) the "official" T2Fix is impossible to find.

[ZylonBane]

That's what moderators are for. Any thread started that isn't a mod creator sharing their mod, delete and a warning. Only the dumbest posters should have a problem sticking to that.

[voodoo47]

Sticky threads are the bane of forums, because a) they inevitably multiply beyond the bounds of common sense, and b) most people develop "banner blindness" toward them.

yes, but you at least have something you can link. will put something simple together this weekend.