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Thread: Thief Mods subforum?

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    Zombified
    Registered: Sep 2004

    Thief Mods subforum?

    while Thief mods are not exactly numerous, there are a few of them floating around (and hopefully, their numbers will increase), but they are all hopelessly, hopelessly buried in the General discussion subforum.

    so I'm thinking a subforum where all the mods would be easily accessible would be a good idea (systemshock.org style, so topics with downloads only, with only the staff allowed to create or move topics there).

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    Moderator
    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    We made a start in discussing reorganising Thief fora earlier this year but life gets manic and it rather fell by the wayside. I don't know about a subforum, (we'll need to talk about that but I'm in favour of a joint something for Gen and FMs) but we do want to organise technical information, including mods, so that all the information people need for Thief or fan missions is all in one place or directed to one place.

    Realistically, I don't think any Thief moderators will be able to even think about this again before Spring next year. I'll pm you though, voodoo, to see if I can do anything to help in the meantime. Maybe lumping all the tech info into one sticky as a temporary measure might be useful.

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    Member
    Registered: Jun 2017
    Location: Germany
    Sooo, I guess the Ultimate Difficulty Patch for T1/G and T2 would also fit on this list?
    http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49569

    Downloads:
    http://downloads.ttlg.com/download.aspx?id=1690 - T2
    http://downloads.ttlg.com/download.aspx?id=1689 - T1/G

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    Moderator
    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    I think we're going to try and get this up and running sooner than I mentioned, voodoo, and I'm thinking of bribing Al_B with a bottle of Lagavulin or similar to organise it for us. It seems that every day it becomes more logical and important to do it a.s.a.p.

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    Zombified
    Registered: Sep 2004
    heey, look what got buried and forgotten for almost a year. maybe it's finally time to turn it into some sort of proper sticky somewhere?

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    Moderator
    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    You're absolutely right. I've 'dropped the ball' as they say on just about everything over the last 3 years. Not for want of love for TTLG or for organising things better but lack of energy mostly.

    I doubt anyone who is up for the reorganisation, which is needed in Fan Missions as well, will be able to give any attention to this until after the TDP 20th Anniversary contest is over so perhaps you could you bump the thread in the middle of December to remind me to get a move on but in the meantime, I will start a staff thread about it so hopefully we don't forget that reorganisation is something we've been meaning to do for at least the last five years!

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    Member
    Registered: Apr 2011

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    Member
    Registered: Feb 2012
    Location: Russia

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    Member
    Registered: Oct 2016
    Location: The Mystic's Keep
    vfig, you forgot to list your own mod!

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    Member
    Registered: Oct 2002
    Location: Third planet from the Sun
    This is very good idea. I am just now doing some file cataloging on my desktop / its a mess oh boy.. it will take forever to organize everything, i dont even want to look into my mp3 catalog but it has to be done /

    My thief catalog is A MESS

    Having everything in one place. I could just check if my files are up to date and delete old ones.

    I have question according to scripts. I want to have most recent version divided into t1 t2 tg and ss2 games
    there are following scripts to my knowledge

    Nameless Voice which are divided into t2 and ss2, script and debug versions
    Telliamed i have 2.1 version of those for t2,
    GayleSaver for t1 and t2 divided also into user and devs.

    Where can i download most recent version of all those scripts ? Preferably separate files.

    Thanks for help in advance.

  12. #12
    Zombified
    Registered: Sep 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by voodoo47 View Post
    heey, look what got buried and forgotten for almost a year. maybe it's finally time to turn it into some sort of proper sticky somewhere?
    and two more years have passed, maybe some moderator could construct one post where all the mods would be linked and sticky it? and maybe take a look at the FAQ while at it, it looks more broken than usual.

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    Moderator
    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    Doesn't time fly. I'll bring this thread to staff attention again.

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    Zombified
    Registered: Sep 2004
    I'm slightly puzzled by this being so complicated - I mean, one post from someone with moderator permissions, copy paste the content of my second post here (perhaps adding a few more links that were posted later by other users), topic name THIEF MODS HERE, post it in Thief Series General, set it as sticky, all done?

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    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Ireland
    Voodoo, maybe you should just make the thread in ThiefGen and then ask the moderators to sticky it? Probably the easiest solution.

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    Zombified
    Registered: Sep 2004
    sure, if a moderator stickies it afterwards, I can do that.

  17. #17
    Moderator
    Registered: Apr 2003
    Location: Wales
    Quote Originally Posted by voodoo47 View Post
    I'm slightly puzzled by this being so complicated
    You asked for a sub-forum. That's an admin only creation (I think).

    Sure, if you create a new thread in Thief Gen, I'll sticky it.

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    A lot of this stuff is already mentioned in the "Installing the Thief Games" thread that's currently stickied in ThiefGen. Maybe just edit that?

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    New Member
    Registered: Sep 2017
    Location: Ukraine
    I think ESRGAN mods should also be in this list:
    Thief Gold ESRGAN Pack
    Thief II ESRGAN Pack
    Thief: Deadly Shadows ESRGAN Pack

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    ZylonBane
    Registered: Sep 2000
    Location: ZylonBane
    Sticky threads are the bane of forums, because a) they inevitably multiply beyond the bounds of common sense, and b) most people develop "banner blindness" toward them.

    The advantage of a dedicated mod forum is that it would consolidate mod listings without pushing the responsibility for maintaining a master list onto a moderator. It would also ensure that every mod has its own discussion thread.

    It's also possible that elevating the visibility of Thief modding by giving it its own forum would encourage more mod creation.

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    You're talking about a separate forum where there is one thread per mod, and where your average user cannot start up a new thread to muck up the forum, right? That sounds ideal. Can't be too difficult to set up either.

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    ZylonBane
    Registered: Sep 2000
    Location: ZylonBane
    Quote Originally Posted by Brethren View Post
    ...and where your average user cannot start up a new thread to muck up the forum, right?
    I certainly didn't say that. Preventing users from creating a thread for their own mods would rather undermine the entire point.

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    I was just assuming we were trying to avoid (for example) 10 random people starting 10 different threads with questions about T2Fix. Then after several months (or years) the "official" T2Fix is impossible to find.

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    ZylonBane
    Registered: Sep 2000
    Location: ZylonBane
    That's what moderators are for. Any thread started that isn't a mod creator sharing their mod, delete and a warning. Only the dumbest posters should have a problem sticking to that.

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    Zombified
    Registered: Sep 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by ZylonBane View Post
    Sticky threads are the bane of forums, because a) they inevitably multiply beyond the bounds of common sense, and b) most people develop "banner blindness" toward them.
    yes, but you at least have something you can link. will put something simple together this weekend.

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