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Thread: The Gun Thread About Guns And Gun Related Gunnery

  1. #776
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    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    It's an opportunity to reclaim a little of your humanity. Yours to squander.

  2. #777
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    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Point Nemo
    You’re assuming I had some humanity to begin with.

  3. #778
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: they/she, fight me
    At least you're honest.

  4. #779
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    A video on what happens when US gun culture meets US policing culture:


  5. #780
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    Registered: Feb 2002
    Location: In the flesh.
    It reminds me of how in WWII they said the guys who were the tough guys in basic training were the ones who broke down and ran in actual combat. None of these cowards should ever be allowed to draw a state check again. For that matter anyone who stuck up for them including Texas governor Abbott should be kicked out. They won't be. Not as long as any excuse can be made by the cosplay soldier brigade. If only there had been less doors.

  6. #781
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    Registered: May 2004
    Well, out of those nearly 400 cops surrounding the school, at least there was one who tried to do the right thing initially, so you can't really say that they are all beyond saving. There still seems to be an occasional good apple in the bunch. Nevertheless, that child who smeared herself in her friend's blood to play dead and risked everything to call 911 using the dead teacher's phone had more courage than all of them. Sadly, she didn't know that the police in the US have no obligation to protect people.
    Last edited by Starker; 15th Sep 2022 at 20:45.

  7. #782
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    Registered: Feb 2002
    Location: In the flesh.
    Do you suppose the other 399 pulled him back to save face for their cowardice? Every time I think about it I fail to understand how anyone could listen to children being shot and not rush to do something. Forget the obligation of your job, where is the obligation of your humanity? Maybe I would run in combat. I don't know. I haven't been tested. But listening to kids die would have to be where my cowardice ends. It's inconceivable.

  8. #783
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    Registered: May 2004
    Apparently, he turned back when nobody followed him and was assigned elsewhere:
    https://www.yahoo.com/video/amid-fai...200601507.html

    There was another cop whose wife was a teacher in the school and was shot and later died. He wanted to go in there, but was stopped and disarmed by other cops.

    Also, they didn't just listen to the children getting shot, the children also called 911 and begged for help for nearly an entire hour.
    Last edited by Starker; 16th Sep 2022 at 14:26.

  9. #784
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    Registered: Sep 2002
    Location: 1, Rotation: 0
    The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is not to call the Uvalde cops, that‘s for sure.

  10. #785
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    For sure, but there were all kinds of cops there from all over the state -- from border patrol, San Antonio PD, county sheriff's office, Department of Homeland Security, US Marshals, DEA agents, Texas Department of Public Safety (state police whose responsibility specifically includes mass attacks in public places)...

    But, according to people like Ted Cruz, the solution is apparently more cops and more funding to the existing cops... Maybe the parents should have offered money to the cops, then they had done something sooner?
    Last edited by Starker; 16th Sep 2022 at 15:37.

  11. #786
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    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Point Nemo
    The Uvalde police department has done a fine job proving that they have little interest in protecting anything beyond their paychecks.

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