I have it set up that way already but i mistakenly stuck a thief gold fm in the thief 2 folder. I took me a week to figure out why everything was black in the fm.
I didn't know what "view info file" meant. Why doesn't it say "fm read me file" ? I really don't use most of those buttons in FMSel. The only ones i use are play, status, install, uninstall, & rating. The other stuff is worthless to me.
One other problem i have is with DromEd. I installed DromEd with the patch but if click on DromEd.exe the FMSel box comes up and not DromEd. Why is that ?
Edit: Thief Gold DromEd comes up. Thief 2 DromEd does not come up only FMSel.
Last edited by howeird; 1st Jul 2020 at 20:14.
Because it's opening FMSel for DromEd, to let you edit FMs if you wish. Just hit "Skip FM" if you want to launch it for the original game.
Most of the time, this is what you'd want in your FM-playing install.
Actual mission development should be done in a separate install anyway.
Why does a terminal named "Mono" come up when DromEd comes up in Thief 2 ? This does not occur in the gold DromEd. And, if i close the terminal DromEd closes
It's the monolog. It spews messages about the mission. It's part of Dromed.
I made some missions for myself years ago with the original DromEd but don't remember the terminal included. The missions i made always imploded. For some reason if one save became corrupted it would corrupt all the saves with no way to repair the mission because it would no longer load into DromEd. 'Too many vertices' was a common complaint from DromEd.
monolog came with New dark. Builder be praised for that
on the one hand I tend to disagree about that. I have my WIP's in seperate folders in the fm folder in my thief dir. works like a charm. all the custom goodies in the right folders. when done zipping up the entire content from that fm folder and doneOriginally Posted by Nameless Voice
on the other hand, I would be the last one to say you are incorrect.what makes, it is better to have seperate installs for building?
I may be a bit naive but I do think the monologue has always been there, just that before NewDark it was just a .txt (maybe?) file you had to view AFTER the fact once dromed crashed... Which it did... a lot.
And still does
MonoLOG. It was a log file. Hence the name. It's a pun.
Maybe someone should move the "Howeird Uses DromEd" posts to a different thread.
Last edited by ZylonBane; 2nd Jul 2020 at 16:32.
No, that's fine too. I was actually going to suggest it, but it seemed too complicated to explain to someone who doesn't know how FMSel works with DromEd.on the one hand I tend to disagree about that. I have my WIP's in seperate folders in the fm folder in my thief dir. works like a charm. all the custom goodies in the right folders. when done zipping up the entire content from that fm folder and done
on the other hand, I would be the last one to say you are incorrect.
I still have different installs because I've had them since before NewDark.
A "Loot_Carryover" setting in USER.CFG that, when toggled, records the amount of loot taken from the last completed mission, be it original or fanmade, and adds that to the starting cash of a new level while in the shop menu.
That... is exactly how loot works. Unless you mean loot transfers entirely independently between unrelated missions, in which case... why? What possible benefit does that give anyone apart from ruining authors' design choices?
Not to mention, that if somebody wants to cheat on starting loot, this is already possible through config commands.
BTW. I'd like to see a couple of fog improvements:
- correct distance calculation, as opposed to this artificial plane in front of the camera, which causes things to get fogged or not based on the direction you're looking)
- a material/rendering property called, let's say, "fog opacity", used typically in conjunction with self illuminated materials. The idea is that light sources should not be fogged as easily as normal surfaces. But they shouldn't be excluded from fogging completely, as that would make them stand out too much. So, what I'd like to see is a float value between 0.0 and 1.0, which would work as a fogging multiplier. This way self-lit windows or lanterns would still shine slightly in a thick fog far away.
- Z-blur (DOF) as part of the fog effect, but I might be asking for too much... But if not, it should be adjustable on a per zone basis, so it could be stronger on fog used underwater, etc...
Because I thought it was a fun idea. That's why. And people can leave it turned off if they don't want it.
Okay, I have another suggestion. This one's for a bug fix.
Namely, there's a bug in NewDark that causes NPCs to spot bodies in deep shadow from a long distance. They get taken to Alert stage 1, which doesn't cause them to investigate, but if a body is hidden in total darkness, NPCs shouldn't be able to spot it from over 20 feet away. I find this in Thief Gold all the time.
Replacing all AIs with kittens would also be a fun idea. It would be pretty dumb to suggest it as a feature though.
On thing I'd like to see is a DromEd improvement: visibility control over specific terrain brushes on the top/right/front views, either by selecting brushes and clicking a 'hide' button (and having a 'show all' button to reveal them again) or allowing multibrushes to be hidden or shown. But have it only be a view filter, the brushes would still be used during portalisation.
I'm currently working on an area that sits inside a mess of dodecahedra, and can't hide them with area brushes. Aside from multibrushing them all and moving them out of the way while I work, and moving them back when I portalise, there's no way to remove the godsawful mess of additional brush lines all over the view.
I'm interested in this - any saves or step-by-step instructions of how to make the glitch manifest? also, "a bug in NewDark" would imply this didn't exist under oldDark, are you positive?
//I think I've seen someone mentioning an AI in LotP doing something similar recently, but can't seem to find the post.
Last edited by voodoo47; 7th Jul 2020 at 14:53.
Are you going to update TFix anytime soon or are you waiting for a new version of NewDark?
Who knows if weŽll ever have it.
yeah, if that AI thing is something I can fix, I would definitely pop a new release out.
I don't think it's a save-based issue because I can replicate it in any mission, original or fanmade. To make things easy, knock out a guard in Lord Bafford's Manor and put him in the hallway just outside the library. Make sure that the body's actually hidden in deep shadow and not just barely visible. The guard(s) will wander down the hallway and turn about 10 feet away from the intended position for the body. Watch how far apart the body and the guard is when the guard starts saying "who's there? Is someone there?"
Could it be that the body is being caught by an 0 (infinite) radius light?
I don't know if anyone has posted this, but I could totally use a feature that would automatically implement the most optimized "Time" for each brush, without changing the in-game geometry, to get the lowest cell-count with just a click!
This is probably asking for impossible but I would love the ability to roombrush shapes other than square/rectangle. I find room brushing inside or around a cylinder for example, is a real pain.
One other thing is being able to see a visual of object in the inject hierarchy. I know there are tools to get around it but would be convenient to have it as part of the hierarchy.
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No idea if anything like this is technically possible, but I would love to have some way to tidy up the players inventory. A key ring for all your keys, a notebook for all your readables, etc.
I will also like a feature like this. By the way is there a method for optimizing the time for brushes manually to get the lowest cell count? (Other than randomly change the time for each brush which for a big mission with around 7000 terrain brushes is insane..)
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