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Thread: The Decline of the Debate and the Rise of the Far Left and Right

  1. #376
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    Registered: Feb 2002
    Location: In the flesh.
    Putin DID win our election.

  2. #377
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    *Ka*Bullshit*

    Sorry had to sneeze.

  3. #378
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    What kind of stupid sneeze was that? Sounds like you're trying to suck the snot right back up in your face.

  4. #379
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    Registered: Jun 2009
    Location: The Spiraling Sea
    That's cuz everyone knows Drumpf is a Russian agent!...

    ...just like Tulsi Gabbard!...




    If Hillary says you're a Russian agent, then you're a Russian agent!

    Hillary 2020!...


  5. #380
    Moderator and Priest
    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Okay, that meme's actually pretty funny.

  6. #381
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    Registered: Feb 2002
    Location: In the flesh.
    In a shrill and desperate way?

    And yes Iceman, Putin wanted Trump to win and hacked the DNC to do it so yes, Putin won. Our CIA says it happened. We not only have trace evidence but agents and defectors who back that up.

    So wipe the snot off your face and face it.

  7. #382
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    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    The whole Russian interference thing is but one point out of many that ended up serving to benefit Trump. Putin's activities were more aimed towards stoking an already easily riled crowd, and probably didn't do much overall to swing the election in Trump's favor. It was basically a viral marketing campaign meant primarily to sow discord and paranoia, not convince Jenny the Suburban Soccer Mom to vote straight ticket Republican.

    If I were to pick two things as being responsible for Hillary losing in 2016, it'd be Hillary herself, and her lackluster campaigning in the Rust Belt, assumed to be surefire wins to be taken for granted, but ended up being the very states that gave Trump his narrow victory, and James Comey for reopening the case into Hillary's email server a bare week before the election.

  8. #383
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    Registered: May 2004
    I'd say the DNC leaks came pretty handy at the time too. Remember, this was when Lord Dampnut was caught on tape openly bragging about sexually assaulting women. In fact, the first batch was published on the same day.

    And that's nothing to say about the whole Cambridge Analytica thing and Lord Dampnut's campaign manager giving polling data to Russians.

  9. #384
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    Registered: Mar 2002
    Location: Dinosaur Ladies of the Night
    Yeah, the DNC leaks didn't help either. Though didn't the Cambridge Analytica reveal come well after the election?

  10. #385
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    Registered: May 2004
    Yes, I think it was in 2018 when we found out they had mined Facebook users' data without their consent.

    Anyway, I would not underestimate the degree to which Russia ratfucked the US election. The public portion of the Mueller Report alone paints a pretty damning picture.

  11. #386
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    I'm hoping at some point they end up siding with a Democrat, cuz then everyone'll start taking it seriously.

  12. #387
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    The whole Russian interference thing is but one point out of many that ended up serving to benefit Trump. Putin's activities were more aimed towards stoking an already easily riled crowd, and probably didn't do much overall to swing the election in Trump's favor. It was basically a viral marketing campaign meant primarily to sow discord and paranoia, not convince Jenny the Suburban Soccer Mom to vote straight ticket Republican.

    If I were to pick two things as being responsible for Hillary losing in 2016, it'd be Hillary herself, and her lackluster campaigning in the Rust Belt, assumed to be surefire wins to be taken for granted, but ended up being the very states that gave Trump his narrow victory, and James Comey for reopening the case into Hillary's email server a bare week before the election.
    That's a remarkably cogent take. Keep in mind they were backing race-baiting organizations like Black Lives Matter with the aim of sowing racial discord in the United States.


    Fun fact: Hillary's going to get into the race in January. That's NOT a prediction on my part. I'm hearing secondhand that she's going to jump into the race in January.


    Yes, I think it was in 2018 when we found out they had mined Facebook users' data without their consent.

    Anyway, I would not underestimate the degree to which Russia ratfucked the US election. The public portion of the Mueller Report alone paints a pretty damning picture.
    What did they do specifically?

  13. #388
    So Holy Crap.

    You all are in for a rude awakening if you think that getting rid of Trump will result in a "return to sanity"

    Look at the reception Don Jr. got at his book event.

    https://twitter.com/BetrayedVal/stat...38473636270080


    It's a shitshow. The audience was in full on revolt and mostly sided with the "America Firsters".


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