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  1. #51
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    Registered: May 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by catbarf View Post
    I distinctly remember reading a review when it came out that was overwhelmingly positive, and also said nothing beyond what was known from trailers, which made it sound like it had been written without actually playing the game. I'll need to see if I can find it.

    Also, EGM gave it a 9/10. Yeah, most reviewers panned it, but I remember there were some suspiciously positive reviews mixed in there too. I wouldn't be surprised if most have been taken down to save face.
    Even if you take your review down, Metacritic won't remove it. So the 9/10 score and one more 4/5 score (and the reviewer does explain that one a bit) are the only examples of positive reviews on Metacritic. Besides, it's not entirely out of the question that someone actually liked the game. At least it looks like there are quite a few positive user reviews as well.

  2. #52
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    I liked it just fine. Sure, it's a terrible Aliens game and... well, it's just a really bad game all around, but it was a never-ending carnival of co-op hijinx, which is always worth its weight in belly laughs. There's lots of dumb shit, some even on the same level of janky hilarity as Narco Terror, which I also look back upon quite fondly.

  3. #53
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    Registered: May 2004
    Quote Originally Posted by Sulphur View Post
    That's selling the original Alien a bit short. Its character beats are a good deal subtler than any of the subsequent movies, it does an intelligent takedown of corporate malevolence, it's one of the earlier movies to put a woman front and centre in an action-oriented role whilst not trading away her smarts, the psychosexual symbolism is baked into the prologue well before the alien comes into play (the entire descent into the Space Jockey ship can be viewed as a metaphor for penetration and conception), and Ash's dispassionate tirade on human flaws all on its own shows that there's some fairly strong writing in there. It's a well-balanced story with multiple threads that come together at the end - none of the movies after it juggled all those things at the same time with the same precision; or in the case of Prometheus and A:C, tried and failed (spectacularly) to match the sharpness of Alien's bleak original vision.
    That's fair on a thematic level, but I have read Alien's script on its own, and for the most part the characters are paper thin. But in a way, it's tha simplicity which allowed the movie to be great, which is why I'm not all about expanding the lore.

  4. #54
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    Registered: Aug 2004
    At some point over the past few decades the xenomorph has basically ceased being alien in its original sense. It's too familiar to ever be the same.

  5. #55
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    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    Quote Originally Posted by froghawk View Post
    That's fair on a thematic level, but I have read Alien's script on its own, and for the most part the characters are paper thin. But in a way, it's tha simplicity which allowed the movie to be great, which is why I'm not all about expanding the lore.
    I would definitely agree with this. Rounded, complex characters are great, but a great character doesn't require depth, only a certain type of great character - and equally, good writing cannot be reduced to psychological depth only. Sometimes, what is called for is broad strokes and primary colours executed effectively and efficiently.

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  7. #57
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: Edmonton
    I actually think this is good news.

  8. #58
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Landahn
    Good, but disappointing.

  9. #59
    Thing What Kicks
    Registered: Apr 2004
    Location: London
    Bringing Retro in to helm development is sounds like a good idea to me. Mind you, I doubt very much that today's Retro Studios are the same people who made the original Prime games.

  10. #60
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    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: Edmonton
    It's true, but Retro's got a track record at least. The Donkey Kong games they've done recently are high quality.

    What Nintendo should do is just re-release the original Prime trilogy on Switch to tide us all over until the fourth game is ready.

  11. #61
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Somewhere
    Yeh I am suprised this hasnt been done, a HD remake would be great.

    One reason I believe is that the Metroid series wasnt hugely popular in Japan?

  12. #62
    Level 10,000 achieved
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    Awww.

    Yeah, I'd love to get any Metroid Prime games on the Switch as I haven't played any of them.

    Also Super Mario Galaxy plz

  13. #63
    Still Subjective
    Registered: Dec 1999
    Location: Idiocy will never die
    Quote Originally Posted by froghawk View Post
    That's fair on a thematic level, but I have read Alien's script on its own, and for the most part the characters are paper thin. But in a way, it's tha simplicity which allowed the movie to be great, which is why I'm not all about expanding the lore.
    They're as fleshed out as they can be for the short time they are on screen. I disagree with your "paper thin" claim though. They're distinct characters, even with the limitations of the script and I think that's down to the cast who are excellent.


    RE: Metroid

    I only played some Prime on GameCube and the one on Wii a bit. I really liked Prime, it was so damn stylish. I'd like to play a full game and remakes would make a Switch a temptation - at the moment I only covet Zelda.

  14. #64
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    That's what I'm saying, though - in the script, they are paper thin. The cast brings them to life, but there is very little there without the acting/directing.

  15. #65
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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Quote Originally Posted by SubJeff View Post
    They're as fleshed out as they can be for the short time they are on screen. I disagree with your "paper thin" claim though. They're distinct characters, even with the limitations of the script and I think that's down to the cast who are excellent.


    RE: Metroid

    I only played some Prime on GameCube and the one on Wii a bit. I really liked Prime, it was so damn stylish. I'd like to play a full game and remakes would make a Switch a temptation - at the moment I only covet Zelda.
    Give me the 2D Metroid's any day. Same with Castlevania.

  16. #66
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    That Russian FPS game Atomic Heart was looking pretty sweet, right? Reportedly the game's development is currently in a bit of fluster cluck. (Obviously all unconfirmed so take with a grain of salt.)

    https://archive.today/aVJfC
    https://www.reddit.com/r/atomicheart..._i_hate_to_be/


  17. #67
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2008
    I removed it from my wishlist after that video was released. The first few minutes are just set dressing (shoot at stuff passing by - why?), the melee looks tedious, and none of the indoor areas look like they have a level designer - because as nice as the art and models are - the levels themselves seem as if they've been quickly blocked out in UE4 (so many flat walls and ceilings). I figured I'd wait for reviews, and it doesn't surprise me that the project might be having issues.

  18. #68
    BANNED
    Registered: Feb 2019
    Quote Originally Posted by Sulphur View Post
    That's selling the original Alien a bit short. Its character beats are a good deal subtler than any of the subsequent movies, it does an intelligent takedown of corporate malevolence, it's one of the earlier movies to put a woman front and centre in an action-oriented role whilst not trading away her smarts, the psychosexual symbolism is baked into the prologue well before the alien comes into play (the entire descent into the Space Jockey ship can be viewed as a metaphor for penetration and conception), and Ash's dispassionate tirade on human flaws all on its own shows that there's some fairly strong writing in there. It's a well-balanced story with multiple threads that come together at the end - none of the movies after it juggled all those things at the same time with the same precision; or in the case of Prometheus and A:C, tried and failed (spectacularly) to match the sharpness of Alien's bleak original vision.
    That is reasonable on a topical dimension, yet I have perused Alien's content alone, and generally the characters are paper thin. Be that as it may, as it were, it's tha straightforwardness which enabled the motion picture to be extraordinary, which is for what reason I'm not tied in with growing the legend

  19. #69
    Southquarter.com/fms
    Registered: Apr 2000
    Location: The Akkala Highlands
    Re: Atomic Heart, if you go to the game's official site, they have an overly convoluted scheme for different levels of pre-orders, which completely reminded of what EM did with Mankind Divided a few years ago. That alone should be the biggest red flag of all. You'd have to be kinda nuts to hand over any money to these guys right now.

  20. #70
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    RIP Crackdown 3.


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