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Thread: THREAD OF DISAPPOINTMENT AND HATE

  1. #76
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    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: The Plateaux Of Mirror
    This should be renamed to the Thread Of Tripe imo.

  2. #77
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Google announced a streaming console.
    https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/03...specs-revealed

    I'm not supporting this. Streaming kills modding and fan patching. Streaming kills games archiving/preservation.

  3. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by EvaUnit02 View Post
    I'm living in current year. Do you have anything to actually contribute to the conversation?

    How about you actually follow through on your forum rage quit from a few years ago and stay gone? Talk about being spineless by not sticking to your moral convictions.


  4. #79
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    LMAO, what the hell is this? It must be nice to be so rich that you live in a reality distorting bubble.


    https://archive.vn/9rZBt

  5. #80
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Deus Ex 5 was cancelled for that shitty Avengers pseudo-MMO and now this try hard Unsharted clone ARPG.


  6. #81
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: they/them mayhem
    Oh great, just what we needed, another 2.5D Metroid with an ugly aesthetic.



    Nintendo should really just admit they hate Metroid and lay the franchise to rest already. Tired of the heartbreak.

  7. #82
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    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: Edmonton
    It's a little ugly maybe, but the gameplay looks tight, and it sounds like they're taking inspiration from Alien Isolation, with a monster that stalks you throughout the game. I'm interested.

  8. #83
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    So I curious as what to RPGcodex's general opinion of Chris Avellone fighting back against cancel culture/#MeToo accusations by suing his accusers when I came across this thread. LMAO, were they always filled with anti-semites? This is hilarious, it's like I've stumbled onto a rebranded /POL/. Now I want to dig into what they thought about Disco Elysium.

  9. #84
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    Registered: Jun 2004
    Location: Los Santos
    Just anti-semite? If you read the main thread, it becomes very evident what these people are about when Chris Avellone is consistently referred to as MCA (Master Chris Avellone).

    For every one of these:

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSentinel
    There's no reason for the Codex to be proud - the vast majority of people supported Chris out of a cult of personality and for political reasons because of who was accusing him. Chris could be accused of mass genocide with public proof and the Codex would still back him up. It took no effort or strain from anyone here to show Chris a word of support. The only one who deserves any praise is Cernat for archiving all the data, investigating it, becoming the personification of super saiyan autism and making a 40 minute video on it.
    You had ten of these:

    Quote Originally Posted by Black
    Depending on what race he's genociding, yes.
    Problem?
    The level of impotent hatred is up there.

  10. #85
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    Registered: Aug 2004
    Hoeg Law tears into Avellone's lawsuit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlLJ34qUAjI

  11. #86
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Ireland
    I thought it was pretty common knowledge that RPGCodex was an enclave of the alt-right and neo-Nazis? Including the moderators IIRC.

  12. #87
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: they/them mayhem
    RPGCodex is the Stormfront of video games and has been for years.

  13. #88
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    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Maupertuis
    Quote Originally Posted by june gloom View Post
    RPGCodex is the Stormfront of video games and has been for years.
    It's been awful for decades, and its claim to fame is having attracted equally awful people of genuine, if minor, historical significance. I think if you go far back enough it was a decent RPG news site, but then like certain others it was consumed by its forums.

    This is a great idea for a thread, though. Can I nominate this entire damn period of gaming, for embracing the "game-as-service" mindset?

  14. #89
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Another WW2 game without swastikas. Hurray for censorship ruining immersion!

    I liked it better when most games with nazi imagery were just banned in Germany altogether. In recent years almost all developers have been too lazy to jump through governmental hoops to get authorisation to publish WW2 games with swastikas in Germany (the only exception that I can think of were Machine Games' Wolfenstein reboot series). Now everybody typically gets a "one size fits all" global version with censorship applied across the board, because developers are too lazy to maintain censored SKUs specifically for Germany.
    Last edited by EvaUnit02; 20th Aug 2021 at 16:08.

  15. #90
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Halo Infinite will launch into a glorified early access state. They just announced that:-
    https://archive.ph/UHJK5
    • Co-op has been delayed to ~3 months after release (coinciding with the launch of season 2 of the live service)
    • Forge has been delayed to ~6 months after release (coinciding with the launch of season 3 of the live service)


    Umm yeah, Game Pass rental for sure here.

  16. #91
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Add Ghost Recon to the list of dead franchises. Ubi announced a F2P battle royale game. Talk about completely ignoring their established fanbase, they fully deserve the dislike ratio'ing on this trailer.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NewkthNMDE

  17. #92
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Quote Originally Posted by EvaUnit02 View Post
    GTA PS2 trilogy remasters rumoured https://archive.vn/bd7no
    Could be good. The controls of PS2 trilogy have certainly aged badly. Ironically keyboard + mouse is the best option to play them today, since you can completely ignore the horrid lock on aiming.

    I'll wait until the fanbase analyses the released products with a fine-toothed comb before I consider buying. You can't trust remasters or remakes from modern day Western developers. Censorship is rife. All of the GTAs to date where made when politically incorrect humour and satire was the norm.
    Again I was right, censorship of GTA trilogy PS2 remasters confirmed. The Confederate flag has been removed from Phil Cassidy's shirt in Vice City.

    The days of Rockstar behaving like rock stars and trying to sell on controversy are long over. They're afraid of upsetting the establishment like everybody else.

  18. #93
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: The Plateaux Of Mirror
    Better than being afraid of upsetting the edgelords who will actually give a crap about that particular change.

  19. #94
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Moyer View Post
    Better than being afraid of upsetting the edgelords who will actually give a crap about that particular change.
    What else could be censored? Radio station and/or billboards satirical content? Picking up hookers? The little that some people seem to care about game preservation and/or artistic expression when it comes to games is astounding.

    Whatever, people who support censorship like this get the industry that they deserve. No skin off my back, I own the originals on several platforms.

  20. #95
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: they/them mayhem
    You're not even American, why do you care about the Confederate flag?

  21. #96
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    I'm against censorship. You can't call a release with less content than the original release a "Definitive Edition".

    I won't be surprised if the other shoes drop and a whole bunch of sexual content is censored. Eg Vice City had a whole set of missions where you're advertising a porn studio. We've already have a precedent set with the GTA 5 PS5/Xbox Series remaster:- a bikini girl pin-up poster has been removed from an office during a cutscene.
    https://youtu.be/5h6iNJTsqbc?t=64

    Then there's the other matter of all of the licensed music that have been absent from subsequent releases of these games. Again, you can't call it a "Definitive Edition" when there's less content.
    Last edited by EvaUnit02; 23rd Oct 2021 at 07:05.

  22. #97
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    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: The Plateaux Of Mirror
    The creator of something making changes to it isn't censorship. Those changes might be terrible, but the moral outrage is hilarious and misguided.

    But hey, if a pixelated "i'm a stupid racist redneck" shirt is the hill you want to die on, knock yourself out.

  23. #98
    PC Gamering Smartey Man
    I <3 consoles and gamepads

    Registered: Aug 2007
    Location: New Zealand
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Moyer View Post
    The creator of something making changes to it isn't censorship.
    Are you trying trot out that tired bootlicker hand wave of "censorship only exists when the government is doing it?" LOL. No mental gymnastics can change reality, self-censor exists.

    The remasters are going to mobile platforms, so there is a possibility the Confederate flag censorship was to appease Apple and/or Google. Eg American Civil War games have had trouble meeting Apple app store certifications in the past. AAA developers are lazy, so I can totally see them pushing any vendor mandated changes across all platforms, rather than try to maintain separate SKUs.

  24. #99
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    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: Edmonton
    Thatís possible, but maybe the devsí opinions on their own work changed and they didnít want to have a confederate flag in it anymore. Are the obligated to keep it in because they thought it was funny back in the day?

    If weíre taking about censorship, retroactively removing things from existing works is one thing, but changing whatís in a remake to suit whatís culturally appropriate now is altogether another. The issue is not as black and white as youíre making it out to be.

  25. #100
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    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Maupertuis
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Moyer View Post
    The creator of something making changes to it isn't censorship.
    Repeated for emphasis.

    Quote Originally Posted by EvaUnit02 View Post
    Are you trying trot out that tired bootlicker hand wave of "censorship only exists when the government is doing it?"
    They said nothing that implied that.

    Censorship is unethical because you're restricting another person's choices, and thus their freedom. If you're restricting yourself, you're not diminishing your freedom, you're just making a decision. If Rockstar forced an employee to delete controversial posts on their personal social media, that would be censorship, with its ethical consequences. Changing something controversial about their own creation is just revision. It might be revision that detracts from the original work, but it doesn't have the ethical ramifications of censorship.

    As for this revision: for a time the confederate flag had a dual meaning. To most groups it remained a symbol of slavery, but to some white people it was inexplicably a symbol of personal liberty. But now this duality is gone. The meanings of the symbol have merged, and this revision is akin to removing outmoded slang.

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