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Thread: TDP20AC Mission — Rose Garden (11/30/2018)

  1. #76
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2002
    Of course, the intended solution is that after you get your further instructions but BEFORE you ring a bell, you go around the map and delete the X marks by frobbing them. If you've read the right readables, you'll realise that the mysterious opposition has hired sellswords and assassins and drew those marks there to tell them where to wait for Bernalt. If you erase the signs, they won't spawn. The X marks are only erasable after reading the instructions at the rogues' tavern.

  2. #77
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    Quote Originally Posted by UliB View Post
    Thanks, zappen.
    I was in doubt, if this was the way it's meant to be done.
    It took a few attempts auf failures, but Mr.Bernalt finally reached the gate and left the map. But the objective still is not checked off.
    You have to go into the building (Grandmauden's) through an open window on the balcony. Then explore and that objective will eventually unfold

  3. #78
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Franconia, Germany
    Thanks, Arrowgrab and Azaran.

    I arrived at the fire bell very quick after the visit at rose garden and was eager to see what will happen...

    Yes, the objective ticked off a bit later in the story. That's why i changed my comment about that.

  4. #79
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2018
    Finally replayed this mission and finally found intended path. It was much easier now that I knew what stuff wasn't intended and it only took me 30 min. 2 things that made me to not use it:

    1. Not noticing that there is second exit from Mortesaigues Manor. I didn't notice this fallen tree above second window.

    2. Near al-Asri Mansion there is wooden bridge above the street. I used rope arrow and mantle onto it. It leads straight to Skull Door. I thought it was intended, but after reading author comment I think it may not be intended.

  5. #80
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Germany
    Quote Originally Posted by Vera View Post
    I like this mission very much.
    Four hours of playing. 3200 of loot collected, all the objectives ticked. I only have to escape from the Hightowne.
    I can't find the entrance to the jail(I want to save a thief). I have only a key.
    The prisoners are easily reachable from the ground and you may already have been there.
    If not: Don't expect a door - you directly walk in and get to the prisoners. Think "public shaming".
    The object you already have is the solution, actually...

    And where is the rest of loot?
    You are missing so much (from max loot that is) that I suspect that there is still a good portion all over the place.
    That means only general tips will help: Progress slowly, look high & low and behind everything, look on every cupboard etc.

    Hope that helps, cheers!

  6. #81
    Member
    Registered: May 2008
    Location: Southern,California
    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Cat View Post
    I wonder if Downwinder noticed the sword planted in the intruder painting?

    yes i did,

  7. #82
    Member
    Registered: May 2002
    Location: Texas
    I've been having problems playing this mission. I found it really hard to access anything or know where to go, and sometimes I get symptoms of being 'out of objects" and I can't drop objects or fire arrows.

    I made it up to an area above the canal where there is one guard on patrol on a long stair case which leads to a hexagonal room, and I also managed to get up to a ledge with a large tree that is next to the cathedral, but I'm not sure of where to go next.

  8. #83
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2011
    stucking at the beginning. how can i get out of the first area of the vintner ?

  9. #84
    Member
    Registered: May 2002
    Location: Texas
    radogoal inspect the "throne room" very carefully.

  10. #85
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2011
    sorry the only objekt i can get in is the house of the vintner, but inside i can't find a throne room

  11. #86
    Classical Master 2008
    Registered: Jun 2002
    Location: Civitas Quinque Ecclesiae HU
    Quote Originally Posted by john9818a View Post
    I've been having problems playing this mission. I found it really hard to access anything or know where to go, and sometimes I get symptoms of being 'out of objects" and I can't drop objects or fire arrows.
    This is a known bug (noted in the readme). If it surfaces, either a reload or a quit to desktop/restart should take care of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by john9818a View Post
    I made it up to an area above the canal where there is one guard on patrol on a long stair case which leads to a hexagonal room, and I also managed to get up to a ledge with a large tree that is next to the cathedral, but I'm not sure of where to go next.
    This is a side area. To progress further in the mission, go back to the staircase, and hop across the gargoyles to a small tavern, and north to Morwyn Str.

    radogoal: Check above the toilet.

  12. #87
    Dóttirin klęšist oft móšur möttli
    Registered: Apr 2015
    Quote Originally Posted by Melan View Post
    This is a known bug (noted in the readme).
    This is not a bug, it's just a mistake. You're very close to the max brush count (modders notes: Max brushes: 16384). Type info_window in DromEd and count the brushes. It's 16225
    In game mode, many new objects are created which exceed the max IDs. You'll get an assertion error. The result is that the game doesn't work any more. No more obj IDs available.
    Deleteting about 200-300 junk brushes will solve the issue (they are floating everywhere, even in the solid) and compress_br_ids will solve this issue.

  13. #88
    Member
    Registered: May 2002
    Location: Texas
    Thanks Melan! I think that's where I actually came from but I'll double check tonight.

    I figured the resources are being maxed out and the obj IDs specifically. I've seen this behavior before during testing, and currently I'm having to reload my quicksave very often. Sometimes it doesn't help. On the plus side I was able to pick up Archer arrows because they didn't disappear on impact.

  14. #89
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2011
    Quote Originally Posted by john9818a View Post
    radogoal inspect the "throne room" very carefully.
    now i have checked throne

    but now i stuck in the next secotr. kocked out the guard und visited the beer pub but don't know now to going on ??

  15. #90
    Classical Master 2008
    Registered: Jun 2002
    Location: Civitas Quinque Ecclesiae HU
    You are on the right track.

  16. #91
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2011
    i shot a rope arrow on the wooden bridge in the near of the pub an i found a litte hidden memory tablet of the litte man climb on the Balustrade, but then a i stuck There is a little mansard and a letter about crystalls but now?
    Last edited by radogoal; 16th Dec 2018 at 08:06.

  17. #92
    Classical Master 2008
    Registered: Jun 2002
    Location: Civitas Quinque Ecclesiae HU
    Multiple ways from here, too. Just explore, try to get up on things, and you will find the way.

  18. #93
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2012
    Location: Detox clinic
    What a wonderful mission that was, I spent just over 5 hours trawling every inch of the map and loved every minute of it, thank you Melan for a truly stupendous experience

    I played on hard initially so am going to replay again on expert, but now I know what to expect I suspect the challenge won't be so great.

    One question. There are a number of glyph signs on the walls which I suspect are in to do with the 'commission' letter I found in the room above the Knights and Knaves Alehouse, do they actually relate to a hidden objective? or are they a bit of a red herring?

  19. #94
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2011
    I achieved the terrace where drinking but took place and detected three dead bodies but now ?
    On the way to this place i passed a locked door on the balustrade. Who has the Key?

  20. #95
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2004
    Location: Germany
    Quote Originally Posted by radogoal View Post
    I achieved the terrace where drinking but took place and detected three dead bodies but now ?
    On the side where you can see several guards below, there is a tower on the right side, and a wooden beam portruding from the tower. Shoot a rope arrow into the tower, then try to fall down from the terrace in a way that you hit the rope, so Garrett grabs it and does not fall down. Not easy.

    Then, get down and look for a shadow to hide in before the archers down there get you.

  21. #96
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2011
    if i understand this in the right way i go down with using a rope arrow. but i will come out in bazar, whrere i have already been

  22. #97
    New Member
    Registered: Sep 2014
    Location: Finland
    Hi people! I think I'm pretty much done with all the objectives, expect, I just can't find a way to Lord Haskell's Mansion. I think I need a key but Can't find it anywhere. Any hints? Thanks!

  23. #98
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2012
    Location: Detox clinic
    The key you want is inside Haskell's mansion

    To get to Haskell's you need to go roof hopping. Have you got onto the roofs above the scaffold square where you started? From there you can get to Humprey's but you need a couple of sacks or crates to make the leap.

  24. #99
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2011
    Location: Montpellier, France
    You don't need any crates at all to get there. Go close the Al-Asri tower next to the Alehouse. There should be a barber's pole close to the city gate to the west that goes to Firewatch Tower/Halfsequin square. Above this barber's pole you should find planks above you. Shoot a rope there and climb up. Circle around the buildings and you'll find yourself above the starting location (the scaffold square fortuni is referring to). You can then jump on the transformers and then on the open windows with plants, which is in Humphrey's. From there you can access Haskell's through a locked portcullis you can pick.

  25. #100
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2012
    Location: Detox clinic
    I found it impossible to jump onto the transformers that's why I ended up using a couple of sacks found in the south house below Humprey's mansion balcony.

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