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Thread: TDP20AC Mission — The Scarlet Cascabel (11/30/2018)

  1. #151
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2003
    Location: Switzerland
    Azaran:

    Stone tablet 1/3 is in room 10. First grab Nightingale's key, then look on top of the armoire.

    tablet 2/3 is in the attic, rafters above statue at window
    tablet 3/3 is in the attic-room above room 15 (rope up chimney).
    Last edited by Urumo; 25th Dec 2018 at 07:44.

  2. #152
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2003
    Location: Switzerland
    To the Autors:

    Thank you very very much for this outstanding mission-pack. It is so nice to play, from A-Z, and I am definitely going to replay both missions, not only because I'm short of loot in both parts.


    Are you Maybe planning to give out a lootlist? And: how many secrets are in mission 2?

    Thanks again and greetings,
    Urumo

  3. #153
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    Quote Originally Posted by Urumo View Post
    Azaran:

    Stone tablet 1/3 is in room 10. First grab Nightingale's key, then look on top of the armoire.

    tablet 2/3 is in the attic, rafters above statue at window
    tablet 3/3 is in the attic-room above room 15 (rope up chimney).
    Thanks!

  4. #154
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2007
    Location: Krull Island, in the pub
    I'm in the proprietor's quarters. I really don't have idea about what should I find here, I looked every room from bottom to left. I found a chess piece on the top of the bed, one readable, some valuable pictures, and nothing else.

  5. #155
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2015
    Location: Germany
    Thanks for releasing this beautiful fan mission.

    The architecture and love for detail is beyond amazing, very well done!
    Gameplay is great so far, but is has some minor bugs here and there. I think they will go after some polishing in future.

    Right now I almost finished mission 2. Before I finally leave the hotel after nearly four hours of ingame exploration, I want to find the remaining chess pieces and I am still trying to get in room 13.

    I need the following missing chess pieces:

    pawn #4
    rook #1


    How do I get in room 13? - found the entrance, just like I thought

    And I didnīt understand how to get the reward of returning Mr. Jim Jim. I need a spoiler, please. Where is her locker for safekeeping located? Here isnīt anythng ticking off after placing Mr. Jim Jim onto the said persons bed.

    Also there is a statue with a quote from Alexander Blackwell at its base next to the chapel, one floor upwards of the dining hall. There seems to be a door in the background, but I canīt find a switch.
    Last edited by Thinking Robot; 25th Dec 2018 at 17:06.

  6. #156
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2007
    Location: Krull Island, in the pub
    Quote Originally Posted by ticky View Post
    I'm in the proprietor's quarters. I really don't have idea about what should I find here, I looked every room from bottom to left. I found a chess piece on the top of the bed, one readable, some valuable pictures, and nothing else.
    Also, I feel like stuck. I've been everywhere except room 13 and the winter wing (I wonder which of these two is essential) and can't find anywhere to continue, since I've just learned that the stone tablets that seem like a solution for the first look, are rather an intended astray.

  7. #157
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2015
    Location: Germany
    Quote Originally Posted by ticky View Post
    Also, I feel like stuck. I've been everywhere except room 13 and the winter wing (I wonder which of these two is essential) and can't find anywhere to continue, since I've just learned that the stone tablets that seem like a solution for the first look, are rather an intended astray.
    1) Getting in room 13: Have you been in the attic? There might be an open hatch leading down to said room.

    2) Search the proprietors office next to the library. There might be a tiny switch Strong spoiler: under the writing desk

  8. #158
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2007
    Location: Krull Island, in the pub
    Quote Originally Posted by Thinking Robot View Post
    1) Getting in room 13: Have you been in the attic? There might be an open hatch leading down to said room.

    2) Search the proprietors office next to the library. There might be a tiny switch Strong spoiler: under the writing desk
    Thank you very much! Well, that wasn't easy.

    Also, I have found all four lost city keys, but only two locks. One in the upper library, and one in the pool. The statues on the second floor opposite the garden and in the observatory are similar to the ones that have lost city locks, but I could not find any locks near them.

  9. #159
    Master Builder 2018
    Registered: Jul 2008
    Quote Originally Posted by Thinking Robot View Post
    I need the following missing chess pieces:

    pawn #4
    rook #1


    How do I get in room 13? - found the entrance, just like I thought

    And I didnīt understand how to get the reward of returning Mr. Jim Jim. I need a spoiler, please. Where is her locker for safekeeping located? Here isnīt anythng ticking off after placing Mr. Jim Jim onto the said persons bed.

    Also there is a statue with a quote from Alexander Blackwell at its base next to the chapel, one floor upwards of the dining hall. There seems to be a door in the background, but I canīt find a switch.
    For the chess pieces:

    pawn #4 - library rafters
    rook #1 - Chandelier in the great hall, right above the chess board


    It sounds like you already got into Room 13, is that right?

    For Mr. Jim Jim, there is a piece of cheese in the footlocker there. That is meant to be your reward. There was meant to be a bit more that happens when you put him on the bed, but unfortunately we ran out of time before we could get that part to work properly. However, there is another way to dispose of him, that is hinted at by some of staff texts.

    For the statue with the quote from Alexander Blackwell that is the way into the sealed wing. I assumed you had already been there, but apparently not. Once you have all the items from the secret rooms, that doorway will open.


    Quote Originally Posted by ticky View Post
    Also, I have found all four lost city keys, but only two locks. One in the upper library, and one in the pool. The statues on the second floor opposite the garden and in the observatory are similar to the ones that have lost city locks, but I could not find any locks near them.
    The statue in the observatory has a lock on the back of it. The other statue you need is in the chapel which is on the second floor next to the large dining room.

  10. #160
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    Quote Originally Posted by Thinking Robot View Post
    I need the following missing chess pieces:

    pawn #4
    rook #1
    Yeah it would be useful to have the chess piece locations. I've found about 5-6 so far, atop the fountain in the courtyard, on top of the observatory telescope, on a few beams high up like the one over the pub area, and in an attic I think. But now I'm struggling to find the rest

  11. #161
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2015
    Location: Germany
    Thanks, I finally found everything and finished the hunting for the remaining chess pieces!

    I found a lot of secrets, but may have missed something - I finished with 600 short in loot. My save file tells me I needed roughly 5 hours (!) for hunting through the second mission. But it was totally worth it! Overall difficulty was hard to very hard. Mission 1 was a nice intro mission.

    Difficulty was high because of the riddles, loot placement and the genius but also insane placement of the chess pieces. I nearly got stuck in the beginning. After playing I recommend being creative in this mission. Be patient while solving the countless riddles. The second mission also had some nasty horror elements. I liked the strawmen, ghosts and the other scripted sequences like the ball in the pool very much!

    I wish I had a map or at least a notes page. It could have saved some time for me. And in the first mission there were some scrolls and books being frobable, but did nothing.
    Sadly time ran out for the developers, so this may be OK here.

    Also I was surprised, that there neither a no "no-kill objective" nor a minimum loot objective on expert. This meant I was able to solve some problems in the old fashioned way

    Overall, I give this mission a 10/10 rating with 9/10 in gameplay due to minor flaws.

    Well done!

  12. #162
    New Member
    Registered: Feb 2008
    Second level - I am stuck at the fountain. I put the piece of clothing and the necklace in the middle level of the fountain . When i put the rosary and the journal in the upper level of the fountain ,they vanish in the water and nothing happens !! I need a specific hint , please .

    Carlos - Brazil

  13. #163
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2007
    Location: Krull Island, in the pub
    Just finished both missions on expert. Thank you guys for the help, sometimes it was challenging to figure out how to go on.

    Cons

    x Laggy ground fog
    x Some highlighted but unreadable readables



    Pros

    + exciting story
    + very nice architecture
    + unique yet classic thiefy atmosphere
    + worn out textures throughout the hotel was a BRILLIANT IDEA that fits the story and atmosphere
    + nice use of vegetation everywhere
    + funny hotel guests
    + tasty thrills in hotel


    and the greatest plus for me:

    not too annoying undead and no unbearable enemies in the Winter Wing. When I first prepared to go there, I excepted tons of undead, maybe invulnerable/invisible ones, which would have been annoying, but no - the dummies and the red lady were fairly enough and nice.

    I will definitely replay because of the chess pieces. I only found three of them and they must be well hidden since I don't have idea about where they could be.
    Last edited by ticky; 26th Dec 2018 at 06:44.

  14. #164
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2008
    Location: Deutschland/Germany

    Started this one ... what a nice village but I have serious performance problems obviously caused by the fog which seems to push the framerate high. There are some white surfaces in the mission, too, probably hanging plants or so. Tried to deactivate fog and weather but alas that didn't have any effect. Being in the village and avoiding the look in the fog's direction helps.

    I'm afraid that I made a big mistake just at the beginning: Found that strange sack in the bridge guard's chest and threw it right over the bridge in the canyon because I didn't know that it could be important (thought of useless mechanical gears). Now it seems that I had to put it in my hotel room later on and that I have to restart the mission ... how could I know that Garrett doesn't carry his baggage right at the beginning?

    EDIT: OK, that sack of gear was in my inventory and showed up in the moment I opened the bridge guard's chest so I thought it was in there.
    Last edited by zappen; 26th Dec 2018 at 14:05.
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  15. #165
    Master Builder 2018
    Registered: Jul 2008
    Quote Originally Posted by carlos schmidt View Post
    Second level - I am stuck at the fountain. I put the piece of clothing and the necklace in the middle level of the fountain . When i put the rosary and the journal in the upper level of the fountain ,they vanish in the water and nothing happens !! I need a specific hint , please .

    Carlos - Brazil
    Do not drop any items in the middle level of the fountain. They must all be dropped in the top level.

    @Zappen: Glad you figured it out.

  16. #166
    Master Builder 2018
    Registered: Jul 2008
    Urumo, Thinking Robot and ticky: Thank you very much for your comments! We are very pleased that you enjoyed the mission. The critiques are welcome and fair, and are all things we were aware of. They will be addressed in an update after the contest ends.

  17. #167
    Master Builder 2018
    Registered: Jul 2008
    Quote Originally Posted by Urumo View Post
    Are you Maybe planning to give out a lootlist? And: how many secrets are in mission 2?
    Yes, we will release a loot list, and there are 5 secrets in Mission 2, but only four of them give you an onscreen message.


    @Thinking Robot: Did you manage to find all the chess pieces? We are eager to hear what you thought of that quest.

  18. #168
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2015
    Location: Germany
    Quote Originally Posted by Tannar View Post

    @Thinking Robot: Did you manage to find all the chess pieces? We are eager to hear what you thought of that quest.
    First of all I hope I didn't cause confusion. Yes, I entered the winter wing by the said statue next to the dining hall. But after wandering more than 5 hours through the hotel I simply forgot it.

    Finding the chess pieces was a real challenge. I found them all. At first I never thought I would find so many, but luckily only two were missing. There were all extremely well hidden, many on chandeliers. So you rewarded the player for exploration and this was great!

    The hardest piece was the one in the crypt which needed to "water the flowers of eternity. The hint was clever!

    I liked the reward very much. A great hommage to a well known place in Thief 1!

    In resume I would like to motivate the other players to search all 16 of them, even if it may take some time.

  19. #169
    Member
    Registered: May 2010
    Location: THE NETHERLANDS
    What do those 3 stone tablets do? i placed them on the fountain in the courtyard,but nothing seem to happen.
    and how do i open up the grid in the kitchensink?you can see there's some loot on the bottom....
    and i need 8 more chess pieces,they are very hard to find,can someone post a list of there locations?

  20. #170
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    Quote Originally Posted by griswold View Post
    What do those 3 stone tablets do? i placed them on the fountain in the courtyard,but nothing seem to happen.
    and how do i open up the grid in the kitchensink?you can see there's some loot on the bottom....
    and i need 8 more chess pieces,they are very hard to find,can someone post a list of there locations?
    The tablets are there to reconstruct the inscription so you can read it, it's an easter egg. I still haven't found all the chess pieces but got 5 or 6 atop the fountain in the courtyard, on top of the observatory telescope (you have to rope up the wooden frame in the ceiling), on a few beams high up like the one over the pub, on top of a chandelier and in an attic. Someone also mentioned one in the crypt, where you have to water the flowers to uncover the secret, I'm just about to head there now

  21. #171
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2012
    Location: Portugal

    I'm having trouble with the secret of the kitchen lift, it does not open for me even though I hear the sound

  22. #172
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    Found another chess piece outside, on a 2nd floor ledge accessible from the library window

  23. #173
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2012
    Location: Detox clinic
    @ Empyrium Lean forward, you'll see a lever

    @ Azaran Which pieces are you missing?

  24. #174
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    I found all the pawns, and 2 rooks, but missing the rest

  25. #175
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2012
    Location: Detox clinic
    I'll leave it to Tannar to give precise locations, but these hints should help.

    Knight 1 Proprietors rooms
    Knight 2 Room 14
    Bishop 2 You know about this one flower!

    The other 3 hints once you have found the above.

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