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  1. #1
    LittleFlower
    Registered: Jul 2001
    Location: Netherlands

    What loot list to use for my playthrough of Thief 2 ?

    Hi all. I'm replaying Thief 2.
    I've used the Tafferpatch 2.0.18 beta and my original CDs from 2000 to install the game.
    This one: http://download.darkfate.org/patches...A_218_beta.exe
    I then applied the HD Textures patch.

    I decided to look for all secrets in my play-through.
    And while I'm at it, I'll also try to collect all loot.
    I was using Thief The Circle as my source of information what/where all loot is.
    E.g. http://www.thief-thecircle.com/guide...ng/lootmap.asp

    Here, on the 2nd map, I'm already running into problems.
    The loot-list says: Grand Totals = 735 Gold, 225 Gems, 705 Goods = 1665 Total Loot
    However, I have 1645 loot.
    I can understand if I missed something. 20 Missing loot suggests that I've missed a spicebag.
    However, the numbers don't add up. I have 685 gold, 225 gems and 735 goods ! And a total of 1645.
    That's 30 more goods than there should be in the game.
    If that number is not correct, are the other numbers correct ? Is the total of 1665 loot correct ?
    Maybe different versions of the game have different amounts of loot ?
    Anyone who can enlighten me ?

  2. #2
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2018
    Seems there are difficulty differences. Your loot tally would be correct, missing 20goods which could be any combination, if you played on Hard or Expert. Always trust the in-game tally over a player list. With a few exceptions of loot that is unobtainable, the in-game tally is best.

    Seems the player list transposed 'goods' with 'gold', or played partly on normal, etc.

    lootlist.exe(aka lazytaffer) printout for miss2(3/28/2000)
    Code:
    Loot:
    A Dec_Plate1 (11) (goods: 10)  {49.71,95.69,19.33}
    A Dec_Plate2 (12) (goods: 10)  {49.87,90.19,19.53}
    A Dec_Plate3 (13) (goods: 10)  {49.20,82.16,19.60}
    A Dec_Plate4 (14) (goods: 10)  {49.54,76.02,19.60}
    A Dec_Plate5 (15) (goods: 10)  {49.72,71.06,19.72}
    A Dec_Plate6 (16) (goods: 10)  {49.80,64.19,19.72}
    A TrVasePurp (264) (goods: 25)  {74.84,-88.98,17.62}
    A ScatteredCoins (273) (gold: 50)  {65.36,-51.09,-6.78}
    	Contained by: A MoneyBox (535)  {66.45,-50.92,-6.78}
    A spice (280) (goods: 20)  {283.96,111.93,4.69}
    A spice (283) (goods: 20)  {417.03,75.79,-5.39}
    	Contained by: A ThiefMale (708)  {417.27,76.54,-5.39}
    A spice (284) (goods: 20)  {271.19,31.47,-9.70}
    A spice (285) (goods: 20)  {304.47,26.55,14.52}
    A spice (286) (goods: 20)  {231.76,111.84,-0.71}
    A spice (287) (goods: 20)  {454.64,76.44,-8.41}
    A spice (288) (goods: 20)  {-82.13,-104.72,-3.10}
    A GoldHammer (299) (gold: 25)  {-12.65,100.92,1.76}
    	Contained by: A FootLocker (1833)  {-12.11,104.72,1.76}
    A stat1 (411) (goods: 15)  {66.59,-57.33,-2.93}
    A FineWine (528) (goods: 25)  {-81.04,-105.76,-8.68}
    A stat4 (529) (goods: 15)  {66.62,-65.09,-1.05}
    A stat3 (532) (goods: 15)  {66.85,-58.89,-1.05}
    A stat7 (534) (goods: 15)  {58.10,-54.28,-6.99}
    A GoldNugget (755) (gold: 100)  {450.92,37.23,-8.66}
    	Contained by: A SeaChest (20)  {453.39,40.13,-7.71}
    A TrVaseGreen (819) (goods: 50)  {-41.37,-72.96,17.64}
    A GoldCStick (895) (gold: 50)  {31.40,74.76,-6.53}
    A CopperCoinStack (908) (gold: 5)  {46.26,57.75,-4.73}
    A CopperCoinStack (909) (gold: 5)  {48.21,58.78,-4.73}
    A GoldDice (1008) (gold: 50)  {40.36,76.84,-6.24}
    	Contained by: A Safe (1959)  {39.63,81.59,-6.89}
    An Unrolled Scroll (1013) (goods: 50)  {-14.66,125.28,15.73}
    	Contained by: A Safe (1011)  {-13.85,133.46,15.73}
    A Dec_Plate3 (1014) (goods: 10)  {201.16,101.90,39.15}
    A Flute (1023) (goods: 25)  {41.65,87.03,-5.70}
    A GoldEyeglasses (1067) (gold: 50)  {-30.29,3.69,6.25}
    A CrystalChunk (1077) (gems: 25)  {-51.43,26.32,4.15}
    A CrystalChunk (1078) (gems: 25)  {-44.76,26.12,-1.60}
    A SilverNugget (1107) (gold: 50)  {-39.43,-19.05,-3.52}
    A CrystalChunk (1108) (gems: 25)  {-36.16,-17.58,-3.60}
    A CollectionPlate (1123) (goods: 10)  {49.46,91.75,18.64}
    An OrnatePlate (1125) (goods: 10)  {48.96,67.28,18.64}
    A FineWine (1133) (goods: 25)  {425.17,38.69,-8.68}
    	Contained by: A SeaChest (1175)  {422.49,40.13,-7.71}
    A GoldCStick (1143) (gold: 50)  {219.78,161.09,40.05}
    A GoldGoblet (1145) (gold: 25)  {75.23,111.98,30.35}
    	Contained by: A FootLocker (1146)  {75.42,115.04,31.76}
    blackhearts recording (1148) (goods: 50)  {27.46,100.74,-4.79}
    A GoldCStick (1167) (gold: 25)  {433.86,23.79,-4.47}
    A Coin (1207) (gold: 5)  {74.09,-88.23,17.04}
    A stat6 (1213) (goods: 15)  {-83.26,-106.30,-10.58}
    A Purse (1214) (gold: 50)  {72.64,-71.96,18.02}
    	Contained by: A MoneyBox (1212)  {74.38,-71.72,17.94}
    A Gemstone (1221) (gems: 100)  {55.75,97.30,6.09}
    A stat3 (1267) (goods: 15)  {-39.46,-86.87,-9.86}
    A GemRing (1290) (gems: 50)  {85.61,104.12,15.76}
    	Contained by: A FootLocker (1251)  {86.99,103.94,15.76}
    A GoldCoinStack (1444) (gold: 25) [Normal] {234.86,111.63,15.28}
    A SilverCoinStack (1445) (gold: 12) [Normal] {222.59,122.58,14.92}
    A SilverCoinStack (1446) (gold: 12) [Normal] {222.91,122.04,14.92}
    A SilverCoinStack (1447) (gold: 12) [Normal] {223.06,122.47,14.92}
    A Purse (1456) (gold: 75)  {-25.88,-47.93,24.03}
    	Contained by: A MoneyBox (1455)  {-25.31,-47.81,23.72}
    A GoldCoinStack (1457) (gold: 25) [Normal] {236.81,112.01,15.28}
    A ScatteredCoins (1461) (gold: 20) [Normal] {170.82,101.68,-11.98}
    	Contained by: A MoneyBox (1442) [Normal] {173.96,101.28,-11.28}
    A ScatteredCoins (1462) (gold: 20) [Normal] {171.65,101.19,-11.98}
    	Contained by: A MoneyBox (1442) [Normal] {173.96,101.28,-11.28}
    A ScatteredCoins (1463) (gold: 20) [Normal] {172.57,100.93,-11.98}
    	Contained by: A MoneyBox (1442) [Normal] {173.96,101.28,-11.28}
    A stat2 (1501) (goods: 15)  {-28.68,110.88,-7.91}
    A SilverNugget (1754) (gold: 50)  {-5.67,88.58,-7.77}
    A LC_CanopicJar (1787) (goods: 25)  {193.47,133.78,18.76}
    A LC_Tapestry (1788) (goods: 20)  {195.51,110.38,22.39}
    A LC_Tapestry (1789) (goods: 20)  {192.81,109.03,17.64}
    A LC_Jar3 (1790) (goods: 20)  {223.48,124.59,15.71}
    A LC_Jar1 (1791) (goods: 20)  {192.10,119.80,12.93}
    A ScatteredCoins (1836) (gold: 5)  {204.09,102.99,39.02}
    A ScatteredCoins (1837) (gold: 5)  {206.07,102.61,39.02}
    A ScatteredCoins (1838) (gold: 5)  {206.03,102.92,39.02}
    A ScatteredCoins (1839) (gold: 5)  {206.38,102.84,39.02}
    A stat6 (1914) (goods: 15)  {-84.10,169.42,-11.49}
    A FineWine (2023) (goods: 50)  {451.41,61.26,-19.36}
    
    Total loot: 
    	Normal: 1811 (gold: 831; gems: 225; goods: 755)
    	Hard: 1665 (gold: 685; gems: 225; goods: 755)
    	Expert: 1665 (gold: 685; gems: 225; goods: 755)
    
    Pick-pockets:
    A Key4 (959) 
    	Contained by: A swordguard2 (671)  {5.79,-17.90,16.48}
    A Key2 (500) 
    	Contained by: A swordguard2 (679)  {221.22,69.28,14.57}
    A QuivArrow (294) 
    	Contained by: A bowman2 (293) [Expert;Hard] {-74.39,-3.20,-4.80}
    A QuivArrow (1288) 
    	Contained by: A bow man (1286)  {82.63,0.10,-8.80}
    A spice (283) 
    	Contained by: A ThiefMale (708)  {417.27,76.54,-5.39}
    A Key4 (1233) 
    	Contained by: Davidson (1230)  {431.04,76.34,-4.56}
    A QuivArrow (1278) 
    	Contained by: A bowman2 (292)  {314.36,59.23,-8.80}
    A QuivArrow (1467) 
    	Contained by: TalkyGuard (1466)  {7.75,-2.00,-8.89}
    A QuivArrow (493) 
    	Contained by: A bowman2 (272)  {99.16,-76.40,-8.80}
    A QuivArrow (790) 
    	Contained by: A bowman2 (787)  {122.33,164.56,-8.80}
    A Key7Orange (1330) 
    	Contained by: A swordguard2 (667)  {-84.96,-4.44,-7.24}
    A QuivArrow (1198) 
    	Contained by: A bow man (1157) [Expert] {12.26,-28.73,17.11}
    A QuivArrow (2059) 
    	Contained by: A bow man (2058) [Expert] {-5.23,102.51,17.11}
    A QuivArrow (2066) 
    	Contained by: A bowman2 (2064) [Expert;Hard] {38.75,18.28,17.11}
    A QuivArrow (2068) 
    	Contained by: A bowman2 (2067) [Expert] {-21.53,4.56,17.11}
    A QuivArrow (2074) 
    	Contained by: A bow man (2073) [Expert] {156.70,-32.85,-8.89}
    A QuivArrow (2081) 
    	Contained by: A bowman2 (1627) [Expert;Hard] {265.13,88.26,15.20}
    
    Secrets:
    A FindSecretTrap (21)  {296.97,109.38,5.76}
    	Controlled by: A FootLocker (928)  {300.57,108.40,5.76}
    A FindSecretTrap (22)  {40.31,72.27,-6.24}
    	Controlled by: A Safe (1959)  {39.63,81.59,-6.89}
    A FindSecretTrap (24)  {452.39,38.09,-7.71}
    	Controlled by: A SeaChest (20)  {453.39,40.13,-7.71}
    A FindSecretTrap (25)  {-15.68,103.58,1.76}
    	Controlled by: A FootLocker (1833)  {-12.11,104.72,1.76}
    A FindSecretTrap (202)  {57.38,100.41,6.09}
    	Controlled by: A Gemstone (1221)  {55.75,97.30,6.09}
    A FindSecretTrap (308)  {434.59,64.26,22.38}
    	Controlled by: A RequireAllTrap (1205)  {438.05,52.51,5.75}
    A FindSecretTrap (1036)  {455.31,76.88,-8.41}
    	Controlled by: A spice (287)  {454.64,76.44,-8.41}
    A FindSecretTrap (1190)  {425.62,34.07,-7.71}
    	Controlled by: A SeaChest (1175)  {422.49,40.13,-7.71}
    A FindSecretTrap (1635)  {209.50,148.57,40.90}
    	Controlled by: A CamoButton-Book (1144)  {210.94,151.29,40.90}
    A FindSecretTrap (1800)  {25.83,-55.29,-3.54}
    	Controlled by: A GoldPlaque (1186)  {25.28,-56.94,-3.54}
    A FindSecretTrap (1801)  {66.27,4.67,17.55}
    	Controlled by: An ElevatorButton (820)  {67.89,6.53,17.55}
    A FindSecretTrap (1903)  {33.05,-89.52,-1.74}
    	Controlled by: A FootLocker (1901)  {31.71,-85.78,-1.74}
    A FindSecretTrap (1956)  {171.61,107.35,23.00}
    	Controlled by: secret trig (1955)  {0.00,0.00,0.00}
    Extract lazytaffer to a convenient location.
    copy/paste the miss##.mis and associated ???.gam files to the lazytaffer folder.
    Run lootlist miss##.mis>loot.txt (replace ## with the numbers, if using dos command prompt "cd" to the lazytaffer folder first)
    the generated text will be in the loot.txt for your reading
    When done, Cleanup the files you copied and created for the next time you need lootlist.
    Last edited by user3; 4th Dec 2018 at 15:03.

  3. #3
    LittleFlower
    Registered: Jul 2001
    Location: Netherlands
    Ah, so that is why some lists are different from other lists. Difficulty level. Thanks for clearing that up. FYI, of course I'm playing at expert level.

    The of the missing 20 loot is also solved. It was the plates in the cupboard in the Silver Export Company. I read the tip to check all the plates, because there are 2 items that looked like they were junk, but they were loot anyway. Of course I missed those. I messed up even though I was warned. Doh.

    Next time I'll use the lazytaffer tool. Thanks for the suggestion.
    Last edited by Gryzemuis; 4th Dec 2018 at 20:43.

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