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    Alita Battle Angel

    Just saw it last night. Solid B+ from me. I'm long time fan of the manga pretty much since it came out, and I'd been looking forward to it with great anticipation and great fear that they would fuck it up... They didn't. Great flick and outstanding as an adaptation. Wholly recommended.

    Slightly spoilery mini review below:

    Reading the reviews already out, I have the feeling people not familiar with the source material will often miss the point and focus on minutiae instead of looking at the bigger picture and what the movie is about. This is unfair as the Rodriguez and Cameron went to great length to make a faithful adaptation and it permeates everywhere you look.

    Few changes though. Some details about Nova were intriguing. I'd be curious to see where they're going with this. The take on Vektor, played by Mahershala Ali, being more of a puppet was interesting and added some layers to an otherwise relatively flat character. The opposite for Jennifer Connelly, she's probably my biggest disappointment, if I can use that word? The character is created solely for the movie and it badly shows, she has no real depth and serves in the end for something that in the manga Gally figured by herself. I love Connelly and she did the best she could with what she had, but that's not much.

    The motorball sequences and the world building are absolutely fantastic. It feels lived in, used, organic and soooo so grounded. I would love to see more of it. Again, the attention to details shows indeed how much Cameron and Rodriguez love the manga and tried to translate it to the medium.

    Rosa nailed Gally and her nuances. The love story is cheesy, but then again, so it is in the manga too. I have the feeling that trying to make it more "mature" would have been detrimental to her growth as a character; Her arc with Hugo is indispensable as it's what leads her to the next chapter in her story.

    Did I mention the motorball sequence. Because MOTORBALL. IN 3D. In your FACE.

    Anyway, epic.
    Last edited by raph; 24th Feb 2019 at 13:42.

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    ZylonBane
    Registered: Sep 2000
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    Quote Originally Posted by raph View Post
    The opposite for Jennifer Connelly, she's probably my biggest disappointment, if I can use that word? The character is created solely for the movie and it badly shows...
    Umm...
    https://battleangel.fandom.com/wiki/Chiren

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    Ugh. That says a lot. The OVA is pretty terrible.

    I concede your point though, in that they didn't create her from scratch for the movie. But even then, being from the OVA doesn't really help her case. It's a totally redundant character.

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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    If only there'd been that Labyrinth sequel, that I'd forever wished for as a kid.

    Whenever I think Jennifer Connelly. Labyrinth is the first thing I think of.

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    For me it's The Rocketeer. Love that movie, and the James Horner score is excellent.

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    ZylonBane
    Registered: Sep 2000
    Location: ZylonBane
    Quote Originally Posted by raph View Post
    The OVA is pretty terrible.
    Only Gunnm manga weenies think this. For people who'd never seen the source material, the OVA was pretty damn great (for early 90s anime anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    If only there'd been that Labyrinth sequel, that I'd forever wished for as a kid.

    Whenever I think Jennifer Connelly. Labyrinth is the first thing I think of.
    Quote Originally Posted by raph View Post
    For me it's The Rocketeer. Love that movie, and the James Horner score is excellent.
    Hell, I agree with both of these. It's a little too late for another Labyrinth, though.

    As for Battle Angel. Considering I've only seen the OVA many, many years ago, I guess my expectations for it will be at least nominally met. I might check it out in the theater this weekend.

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    Guess I'm a weenie then, ZB. For me Gunnm is the manga, first and foremost.

    Renz, it's a must see. The amount of work they put into setting up this world and making it unique is insane, and the visuals and the action sequences are absolutely stunning. This movie puts so much effort into building something fresh, completely different from every other franchise: it's nothing like the MCU, or DC, or *gasp* Transformers, it's its own thing. Styling choices make it unmistakably a Rodriguez flick, but you can also 100% see Cameron's special brand of perfectionism permeating very frame.

    Don't miss it. For me, I'll definitely be going again.

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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    Hell, I agree with both of these. It's a little too late for another Labyrinth, though.
    Oh for sure. I was more meaning, a sequel back then. So with Bowie of a similar age, Connelly in it, the Henson puppets etc etc.

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    No one? Come on guys, go see this movie it’s awesome.

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    Registered: Aug 2004
    I saw it and really liked it. Sorry, posted in the "watching" thread.

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    I'm not going to see it simply because I somehow the algorithms have zoned in on me and I am being relentlessly bombarded by ads for this movie.

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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    And man are the hardcore fans ripping into anyone who gives it a low - average score. Angry Joe copped it in down votes massively after giving it a 6/10. Quite a bit of abuse too. Those anime fans. Gotta watch out for em .

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    Quote Originally Posted by raph View Post
    For me it's The Rocketeer. Love that movie...
    I think you, me and Renzatic are the only ones who do....

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    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    And man are the hardcore fans ripping into anyone who gives it a low - average score. Angry Joe copped it in down votes massively after giving it a 6/10. Quite a bit of abuse too. Those anime fans. Gotta watch out for em .
    Do you expect anything else from fanboys?

    They can't help it. They've literally attached their self-identity to franchises and any negative remark against their preferred franchise feels like a personal attack: https://www.gamesradar.com/psycholog...-professional/

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    ZylonBane
    Registered: Sep 2000
    Location: ZylonBane
    Right, that explains all the lifelong Star Wars fans who unconditionally loved the prequels OH WAIT.

    Idiot.

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    Can we stay civil and on topic please? Cheers.

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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    Just saw it! I liked it.

    Except for the motorball stuff. Perhaps it fits better in the manga/anime/whatever but it felt pretty jarring whenever that came up, like the rest of the plot gets put on hold while Alita plays some roller derby. And then the movie ENDS on that? Uh, ok? Is part 2 gonna be a straight up sport movie or something?

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    Sort of, the motorball arc originally comes after Yugo's death as Gally finds solace in the game to get over it, and actually runs away from home and cuts ties with everyone, whereas here they kinda weaved the two arcs together. I agree that it is a bit awkward and out of left-field, but I guess they wanted it that way because the full hunter-warrior arc from the manga would not translate well to PG-13 level at all, and they needed something for the action scenes.

    I would assume the sequel (if it happens) will connect back to that arc and develop it fully, and kind loop back to the manga chronology, but I have to say the changes they made to the Desty Nova storyline (and the secret of Zalem) are significant enough that I don't really understand where they're planning to go next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curseofnight View Post
    I think you, me and Renzatic are the only ones who do....
    The Rocketeer was totally the bee's knee, yeah.

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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    That is one saying I've never understood. How the bee's knee is the best thing ever, I don't get at all.

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    I use the phrase just because it sounds funny. Like Ice said, there's really no reason for a bee's knee to be that awesome. If anyone actually took the time out to look at one, I doubt they'd be all that impressed. But still, it's a fun thing to say, so I say it.

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    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Melbourne, Australia
    I'd rather say something like supercalifragilisticexpialidocious (I'm likely spelling that completely wrong), or zippidity doo da. Though this is supposed to be for the best thing ever. Saying "it's awesome" does the job fine for me.

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    Registered: Mar 2002
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    Sometimes I'll also say something is bad 'n rad.

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