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  • Art of Thievery suggested by Galaer

    3 18.75%
  • Calendras Legacy suggested by punkey brunster

    9 56.25%
  • FMs by AsyluM suggested by Independent Thief

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  1. #51
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    Registered: Feb 2010
    Location: Switzerland
    Quote Originally Posted by marbleman View Post
    @Supremcee the mission you were referring to in the end is Broken Triad.
    YES! thank you, I'm so bad with all those many names....but since the podcast it gets better

  2. #52
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    Registered: Feb 2010
    Location: Switzerland
    In addition to our latest episode, we need your help to find the best sewers in FanMissions see here at the Thread

  3. #53
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    Registered: Feb 2010
    Location: Switzerland
    New episode online right for the weekend "8 - Eavesdropping" T2OM5" Again we have very different opinions on a mission and have amazing ideas how it would have been better :P someone should hire us. join us, JOIN US NOOOOWWW

    ...and please let us know what your thoughts are

    available in every podcast app/spotify/itunes or right here: https://ghqvsl.podcaster.de/download...ping_T2OM5.mp3

  4. #54
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    Registered: Feb 2010
    Location: Switzerland
    It's quite here......

    Do you taffers have any interesting questions for Purah?

  5. #55
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    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA, Earth
    I am definitely very excited about all the episodes. You guys are doing an excellent job making it interesting. I think perhaps one reason for the lack of posts is the "uninterest" in the last 2 missions. Ambush and Eavesdropping are certainly not the peak of LGS' creations. Or it could be people are just busy. Your upcoming episode with Purah will be a highlight for me. I have a few questions for him:

    1. Where did you get the inspiration to create the city of Murkbell? To me it is the first map that made me feel like I was in a real city.
    2. Which of the missions in the CL trilogy is your personal favorite, and why?
    3. Have you played many other fan missions after making Calendra's Legacy? If so, what are your favorites?
    4. How did you come up with the Lost Cat easter egg? Is there a personal story behind it?
    5. What would it take for you to ever make another Thief mission?

    I hope I'm not too late...
    Klatremus' Supreme Thief Site - Walkthroughs, Loot Lists & Ghost Reports
    Let's Supreme Ghost Thief - YouTube Channel with Thief Let's Plays

  6. #56
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    Registered: Feb 2010
    Location: Switzerland
    Quote Originally Posted by klatremus View Post
    I am definitely very excited about all the episodes. You guys are doing an excellent job making it interesting. I think perhaps one reason for the lack of posts is the "uninterest" in the last 2 missions. Ambush and Eavesdropping are certainly not the peak of LGS' creations. Or it could be people are just busy. Your upcoming episode with Purah will be a highlight for me. I have a few questions for him:

    1. Where did you get the inspiration to create the city of Murkbell? To me it is the first map that made me feel like I was in a real city.
    2. Which of the missions in the CL trilogy is your personal favorite, and why?
    3. Have you played many other fan missions after making Calendra's Legacy? If so, what are your favorites?
    4. How did you come up with the Lost Cat easter egg? Is there a personal story behind it?
    5. What would it take for you to ever make another Thief mission?

    I hope I'm not too late...
    Yeah, I also think that it's the missions and also still vacation season, but since I can see the download statistics i'm not worried

    Your questions are noted

  7. #57
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    Registered: Feb 2010
    Location: Switzerland

    9: FM: Calendras Legacy feat. PURAH :O

    Finally! This time we not only talk about Calendra’s Legacy – this episode is more about its creator: PURAH who joined us. Not only that he is such a great personality, he also told us interesting details about the creation of this FM and what impact it had on his life. Hope you taffers enjoy listening to it as much as we enjoyed talking to Purah a.k.a. Anthony Huso. So thanks again for joining us and all the best with all the great stuff you’re creating.

    Since Psych0sis was hit by a pagan flew he sadly couldn’t join us but the builder shall bless him!

    If you want to check out more of Purahs other interesting works:

    https://www.thebluebard.com/ D&D related

    http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/anthonyhuso
    Or watch out for his books on amazon.com


    Available on every podcast app or directly HERE

    I personally have to add, that we are aware that in this episode we don't go as deep into the mission details as we're used to. It's because of many circumstances, especially the imbalance of all those interesting things about the mission, Anthony as a person and everything he did and does with the combination with his limited time which was about 1h15....so we really tried to find a good balance between talking about the mission details and him as a person...this is not an excuse, I think it came out great, especially since Anthony is such a great partner in a conversation, just for you to know that it was a challenge to manage this, and since we're not professionals I hope you can ignore the sometimes missing focus/streamline

    It was alot of work to make this possible and thanks to Purahs commitment it happened...we are a bit proud of this
    Last edited by Supremcee; 21st Sep 2019 at 17:22.

  8. #58
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    Location: Wild and Wooly West of Ireland
    We certainly appreciate all that went to making this happen! A wonderful, wonderful conversation (I replayed it as soon as it ended, in case I missed anything). Lovely to hear Anthony explain the genesis of his journey into the world of Thief and beyond.
    I very much admire your podcast interviewing style, it has a very natural flow to it. You guys are quite adept at putting your guests at ease, which makes for a very enjoyable, relaxed programme. It's like meeting up with a few friends for a beer or two by a crackling fire...

  9. #59
    ZylonBane
    Registered: Sep 2000
    Location: ZylonBane
    Ah, Calendra's Legacy. One of the very few FMs that actually made me angry.

  10. #60
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    Registered: Feb 2010
    Location: Switzerland
    Quote Originally Posted by Purgator View Post
    We certainly appreciate all that went to making this happen! A wonderful, wonderful conversation (I replayed it as soon as it ended, in case I missed anything). Lovely to hear Anthony explain the genesis of his journey into the world of Thief and beyond.
    I very much admire your podcast interviewing style, it has a very natural flow to it. You guys are quite adept at putting your guests at ease, which makes for a very enjoyable, relaxed programme. It's like meeting up with a few friends for a beer or two by a crackling fire...
    This is heartwarming and actually is totally what we try to aim for...thank you, comments like this are the motivation to do the work behind the scenes

    Quote Originally Posted by ZylonBane View Post
    Ah, Calendra's Legacy. One of the very few FMs that actually made me angry.

    I can totally relate but actually hearing purahs intentions gives it some credibility...he had a reason, but yeah it still makes me mad too

  11. #61
    ZylonBane
    Registered: Sep 2000
    Location: ZylonBane
    Did Purah just pronounce DromEd as "droh-med" (~42:00)?
    Last edited by ZylonBane; 21st Sep 2019 at 18:50.

  12. #62
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    Registered: Feb 2010
    Location: Switzerland
    Quote Originally Posted by ZylonBane View Post
    Did Purah just pronounce DromEd as "droh-med" (~42:25)?
    the time coding isn't correct you mean 43:00....yeah he does if it is important

  13. #63
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    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA, Earth
    Wow, this was a real treat. I never thought this would happen, but you guys made it possible. If you were worried the episode didn't focus as much on the campaign, I think it was perfect. You struck a nice balance between odds and ends in the missions, but also his personal journey and background in mission making. It was also super interesting to hear about what they had to figure out in Dromed in the early 2000s, that must have been so fun to be a part of.

    Oh and thank you for including my questions. :-)

  14. #64
    Master Builder 2018
    Registered: Jan 2008
    Location: The lovers the dreamers and me
    Not sure who was more uncomfortable.. you or Purah. I take that back.. you were. You guys need to actually know who you are talking to better. I got the feeling you just skimmed through Calendra trying to gather facts enough to sound like you knew what you were talking about for the podcast.

    I have hopes for the podcast, but.. be better.

  15. #65
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    Registered: Feb 2010
    Location: Switzerland
    Quote Originally Posted by klatremus View Post
    Wow, this was a real treat. I never thought this would happen, but you guys made it possible. If you were worried the episode didn't focus as much on the campaign, I think it was perfect. You struck a nice balance between odds and ends in the missions, but also his personal journey and background in mission making. It was also super interesting to hear about what they had to figure out in Dromed in the early 2000s, that must have been so fun to be a part of.

    Oh and thank you for including my questions. :-)
    Signed and thanks If I remember right you gave me the idea "if you could get purah"...so that was the trigger to arrange that, in general that gave us the idea to invite different people , so we all have to thank you for that....

    Quote Originally Posted by pukey brunster View Post
    Not sure who was more uncomfortable.. you or Purah. I take that back.. you were. You guys need to actually know who you are talking to better. I got the feeling you just skimmed through Calendra trying to gather facts enough to sound like you knew what you were talking about for the podcast.

    I have hopes for the podcast, but.. be better.
    I see your point but I can tell you noone was uncomfortable with anyone, especially not Anthony, he's such a chilled dude. I was only uncomfortable with the time pressure which i already adressed earlier. We were well prepared and especially nex as always had alot in the background but the problem was, I told Anthony that it'll be good if he would take around 2-3h time and since he didn't denie we went into this with that time in the back. Then when we met he said he has about 1h15min, you can imagine that this on the spot changed our plan and ideas alot. Also Psych0sis was sick that day so he was missing too. We had to improvise to find the right balance. And since you guys can all play the mission by yourself we made sure to focus more on his story and background/inside info rather than talking through the mission. We were well prepared but since we are no professionals we can't handle this situation like a pro, anyways I think we did good. Of course you can have the feeling that someone was uncomfortable but that's your feeling so don't try to make it a fact. And since I'm no native speaker I can only describe my feeling that your feedback or the way you wrote it feels a bit rude...

    I have hopes for your feedback but.. be nicer.

  16. #66
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    Registered: May 2005
    Location: Full on Kevel's mom
    Psychosis got the pan flu?

  17. #67
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    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: Phoenix, AZ, USA, Earth
    Quote Originally Posted by pukey brunster View Post
    Not sure who was more uncomfortable.. you or Purah. I take that back.. you were. You guys need to actually know who you are talking to better. I got the feeling you just skimmed through Calendra trying to gather facts enough to sound like you knew what you were talking about for the podcast.

    I have hopes for the podcast, but.. be better.
    With all due respect pukey, this was a bit uncalled for. I agree with your main point that CL perhaps wasnt covered in detail as much, but that didnt take away from a good podcast. The time limit forced them to make some changes. Plus your criticism is extremely non-constructive. What would you have done differently? You say "know who you are talking to", well then we should even more appreciate what Supremcee and co have been able to do. This is probably the first and last time Purah will ever do something like this. Also, Purah himself expressed his enjoyment at the end, and i could tell he was genuine. If this was an interview for a gaming magazine i would expect a more organized format, but what a gaming fan forum is concerned, this was much better than what your comment describes.

  18. #68
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    Registered: Feb 2010
    Location: Switzerland
    Quote Originally Posted by Random_Taffer View Post
    Psychosis got the pan flu?
    I know I have a faible for bad puns but this is new level sh**t

  19. #69
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    Registered: Oct 2012
    Location: Slovenia
    Quote Originally Posted by pukey brunster View Post
    Not sure who was more uncomfortable.. you or Purah. I take that back.. you were. You guys need to actually know who you are talking to better. I got the feeling you just skimmed through Calendra trying to gather facts enough to sound like you knew what you were talking about for the podcast.

    I have hopes for the podcast, but.. be better.
    I would love to talk about Calendras Legacy a lot more but interview turned into one based around purah. Would you like us to talk about Calendras Legacy in greater detail? We had a lot of material prepared that we couldn't use.

  20. #70
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    Registered: Oct 2017
    I feel a little bad for missing out, I had been very sick the prior days and still woke up like dog poop and my voice was very nasally, didn't want to come on feeling like I was. I wish I had been there though to correct some of the dromed talk mistakes from my cohorts. "Cell limit went from 8k to 32k"???!?!? Really Nex!? Shame on you

    But in all seriousness, the discussion had been cut short due to Purah's schedule not lining up with what was planned for (We hoped for 2-3 hours but only got a little over 1). Kinda had to just focus on one thing rather than glance over what was planned. Personally, I would think talking to a game dev about his journey from simple modding to actual career in gaming would be a far more engaging topic of discussion (perhaps even inspirational for some people here?) than asking him questions about a set of 18+ year old missions he's probably lost much of his memories on.

    But that's just me, I know some people do really love the missions he put out and that's fine, and hoped we just continued the ongoing gush-fest for them.

    Personally speaking, as an aside, I did NOT enjoy Midnight in Murkbell or the first mission in that CL set either.
    Last edited by Psych0sis; 22nd Sep 2019 at 17:02.

  21. #71
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    Registered: Feb 2010
    Location: Switzerland
    I want to make clear that I don't blame Anthony for having less time than we expected. It was just an unexpected fact that brought us into a bit of trouble.

    I like it, that this episode gained some interest and since most of the feedback is very positive I'm happy with it. I can understand that the expectations on an episode like that are very different and high in all directions. I see it like that: Since people expected something great, our former episodes were good enough to expect something good from us which is awesome. I can totally understand that the episode might be a bit of a letdown to some people but you can't satisfy everyone. I admit that during the conversation we maybe missed some oportunities to go deeper even if he was ready...but as I will explain later in that post, it was a bit tricky and unexpected at a certain point

    To be honest, and Nex can confirm that, in our pretalk with Purah it was already clear that it was not in his interest to go deeeep into all the lore and creation details, which is understandable after 17! years. He has moved on, and as Psych0sis said, even without all the details about CL, he had interesting things to tell and I think that's the point...if some of you are just into DromEd/mission details then this episode is not for you maybe, but others seem to feel very satisfied to hear those things from such a legendary author. And as klatremus pointed out, this might be the last time he might be available in a Thief related context, so please try to see this as a last letter from a beloved former community member that tells us what happened to him and how he is today.

    For me personally, since I'm not into DromEd and editing stuff, this was way more interesting than going step by step through that. As I said, he is such a great personality and when we finished the record and said goodbye in the discord, I realised two things: we were able to bring someone back for 1hour+ that is missed and respected by the community to this day and second, that i will never talk to this great and interesting, nice person again which made me a bit sad.

    But on the other hand, we managed to do something that most people wouldn't believe is possible to bring him back for a short time. So I'm very happy with the outcome especially if you look at the circumstances, you can all believe me that it wasn't easy to arrange this....and I don't know why I feel the urge to defend this episode, but even without pukeys ungainly feedback here, i heard some "dissapointment" from other sources.

    I have no problem with negative feedback because for next time this might change our approach for something like this episode and it always helps us to develop but as we say in germany "the tone makes the music"

    this is a project from the heart and behind the scenes it costs alot of time and even money....so to all the disappointed people...please consider all this and keep it in mind for future disappointments :P I love to do this and I'm grateful for every feedback that's constructive..actually I'd love to hear more criticism because most of the feedback here officially is the positive one, from other sources I always get some negative feedback second handed...so please do it here, do it offically and do it correct.

    Thanks to everyone listening and supporting it!
    Last edited by Supremcee; 22nd Sep 2019 at 18:57.

  22. #72
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    Registered: Sep 1999
    Location: Texas, hhhwweeee hawww
    I thought this was one of the best eps yet. I get people being nervous because of time constraints, if that was the case, but I didn't really hear too much nervousness to make it noteworthy. As someone who's interviewed, you don't want to fanboy out, as it can be off putting to the interviewee. I thought everyone kept it straight, and doing so, we got to know more about the man who was behind such rememberable FMs. Well done.

  23. #73
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    Location: Switzerland
    Quote Originally Posted by gamophyte View Post
    ....we got to know more about the man who was behind such rememberable FMs..
    THIS! thank you!

  24. #74
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    Registered: Dec 2000

    Ep 9 Purah

    First time podcast listener here: that was a very enjoyable listen. Gave me both a cool nostalgia vibe - the early days really were the pioneering golden days of mission editing imo (not that I was present )), but it's also bittersweet with the knowledge that it was a time and a place that won't ever come again.
    Regarding CL, that's probably as good as we're ever going to get given it has been over 17 years. I must admit to being a Purah fanboy - they're still the fm's that are the most mysterious of all to me. If you can conjure a sense of mystery that is quite a thing. I still can't quite work out how he pulled them off..it's just beyond my ability I guess. I know people have plenty of valid criticisms about design decisions and whatnot but the overall scope and vision of this mission pack was the main thing. It floored me.

    One question I did have: so he went to France for just one year and then it was back to US?

    Just another comment, if you will allow. His stuff in Dishonored is great (I haven't played Prey) but to be honest, imo it doesn't hold a candle to what he achieved as an amateur with Thief. It gets watered down/designed by committee too much, and the personal vision gets lost somewhat. I can't be the only one here who thinks this?

  25. #75
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    Registered: Feb 2010
    Location: Switzerland
    Quote Originally Posted by zacharias View Post
    One question I did have: so he went to France for just one year and then it was back to US?

    Just another comment, if you will allow. His stuff in Dishonored is great (I haven't played Prey) but to be honest, imo it doesn't hold a candle to what he achieved as an amateur with Thief. It gets watered down/designed by committee too much, and the personal vision gets lost somewhat. I can't be the only one here who thinks this?
    Thank you To you questions

    1. Yes as we understand it he was there for one year and then moved to texas where he lives now.

    2. Yes we allow all the comments I think you can't compare a one man (with help of course) FanMission to a triple A title with hundreds of people involved. Such comparisons don't make sense in my opinion, they both stand for their own.

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