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  1. #26
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    @aja - Vapin' reminded me of Frank Zappa instead - songs like "wind up workin' in a gas station".

    The ambient stuff is good, but could probably be extended to longer forms. I tend to listen to Steve Roach (also influenced by Eno probably) and there are few 40m to hour long tracks I use all the time for work or an attempt to help me sleep.

    @piglick - If you could get me some original files for Elevator Funk I'd try mixing it, but could be awkward if you hadn't recorded onto a computer.

    @dema - I could see that piece working as incidental music in an anime. I may be thinking that because you live in Japan though. Or the jazz influence that seems to get into much anime music.

  2. #27
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    nah dont have the original tracks for that, it was recorded over 20 yrs ago.

  3. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumble View Post
    The ambient stuff is good, but could probably be extended to longer forms. I tend to listen to Steve Roach (also influenced by Eno probably) and there are few 40m to hour long tracks I use all the time for work or an attempt to help me sleep.
    Thanks. A couple of the tracks I didn't post are longer, but I was making a deliberate effort on a lot of these songs to keep them short. I'm not too interested in so-called generative ambient music; everyone with a modular synth makes that these days, and it's not hard to set up a drone and record it for an hour. I'd rather find ways to keep the listener's interest in a shorter time frame. Some of the stuff I've been working on more recently is in the eight-to-nine-minute range, which is about where I like it.

    edit: here's a private link to the full album in case anyone's interested: https://soundcloud.com/sleepmute/set...s-this/s-cxg9c
    Last edited by Aja; 13th Jan 2020 at 17:10.

  4. #29
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    A celebrating stutter reminded me of Brian Eno's Microsoft sound for windows 95 apparently.

    I think it's smart to keep the pieces short as creating a longer piece that remains interesting is really hard. Enjoying the pieces on your little album.

    I just came across Eno's Music for Installations which is a bit of a 5 hour monster - first track was pretty lovely actually.

    I did make one attempt at creating a longer piece - https://soundcloud.com/scumble/ambient-thing-v3 - on the face of it it's highly repetitive but the melody repeats so it shifts backwards in relation to everything else. I think the rhodes chords can get a bit monotonous though. But I think the way this sort of stuff works is for you to drift in and out of attention so when you come back something slightly different is happening.

  5. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumble View Post
    A celebrating stutter reminded me of Brian Eno's Microsoft sound for windows 95 apparently.
    Oh yeah, I can see that. I love that sound!

    I did make one attempt at creating a longer piece - https://soundcloud.com/scumble/ambient-thing-v3 - on the face of it it's highly repetitive but the melody repeats so it shifts backwards in relation to everything else. I think the rhodes chords can get a bit monotonous though. But I think the way this sort of stuff works is for you to drift in and out of attention so when you come back something slightly different is happening.
    I listened to this while I tidied up cables after a day of trying to make music, and I really enjoyed it. It did just what you said. The only part I didn't like was the abrupt cut-off at the end.

  6. #31
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    Here is a (very grainy) video of a recent jam I had with some old muso friends. I am the guy in the back left with the blue telecaster. And yeh I'm not the most dynamic mover on stage, but its whats inside that counts.

  7. #32
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    haha there is also this which I had forgotten until I recently reactivated my incredibly content filled youtube account. It starts with a close up of my crotch, proceeds with a nice view of my kitchen, then ends with another crotch close up. Some tasty playing in there as well I must say.

  8. #33
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    on a roll, after quite a long hiatus due to health issues I am getting back in to the live scene again, feeling rusty but good to play with other musos again.

  9. #34
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    I only watched the first one so far, but some nice solos in there indeed.

  10. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aja View Post
    The only part I didn't like was the abrupt cut-off at the end.
    Yes - it wasn't quite finished but whatever I'm doing so far seems to be working.


    @pig - listened to all of those. Pretty good blues player. I've been wondering what you found helpful while learning as I'm attempting to learn guitar again. Usually I've got stuck on the initial phase of getting my hands to play chords reliably so it takes a while before being able to play something interesting. Achieving a base level of competence has been elusive.

  11. #36
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    learning your basic scales, pentatonic, blues, major minor is a good start, then try and learn some actual solos from songs that you enjoy that maybe dont seem to difficult, either by ear or using tab which is plentiful these days. For example I started out by learning beatles stuff by ear, which is a good starting place as most of the solos and guitar lines arent terribly hard, and it really helps your confidence when you can actually play along with a track.
    Then you can start to see how the various scales are being used in a musical sense, which is really important as practicing scales by themselves doesnt really teach you how to actually use them, although it will improve your technique.

  12. #37
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    Dang Pig, you got some smooth shit.

  13. #38
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    Location: Edmonton
    My latest creation. Surely by now you've all seen Jonathan Frakes telling you you're wrong for 47 seconds. Here is THE REMIX.

  14. #39
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    Pretty cool, though I am not a huge fan of edm in general. What I reckon would have been cool is you had autotuned his voice to sing some melody.

  15. #40
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    Hah. I got a good chuckle from that. The source pulls and choices for refrains are on point... the laugh in particular tickles me. A good EDM track spliced with Frakes' constant disapproval? Sweet. I'd hit that.

  16. #41
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    "A wild ride through genre-defying instrumental soundscapes, we are taken on a musical journey through electro funk, neo-jazz, 80's guitar rock and fusion, chill ambient sonic textures and even touches of indie pop, all the while with a guitar solo hiding around the corner" said some reviewer of my https://stonyrider.bandcamp.com/.
    Probably me. Check it out though, the 3 or 4 of you that might read this thread, there is a fair wack of material in there, something for everyone. (particularly if you like guitar solos)

  17. #42
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    Registered: Jul 2002
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sulphur View Post
    Hah. I got a good chuckle from that. The source pulls and choices for refrains are on point... the laugh in particular tickles me. A good EDM track spliced with Frakes' constant disapproval? Sweet. I'd hit that.
    Thank you! I had the idea to put Frakes laughing in and was delighted to find an old episode of TNG with a scene that opens with Riker giving like a 10-second belly laugh with no other sound.


  18. #43
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    Thats the kind of look you would get after listening to some of the works at https://stonyrider.bandcamp.com/

  19. #44
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    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: The Plateaux Of Mirror
    I bought a Voltage Research Lab for my birthday (like I need an excuse to buy synths) so I've been patching the hell out of it and whenever a patch entertains me enough I record a bit of it and make a low-effort cut-up 50's documentary video for it because why not. When I have enough of them I'll probably compile them into some rip-off of Ciani's Buchla Concerts album. Here's a topical PSA:


  20. #45
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    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: Edmonton
    My Frakes song now has a great video to go with it. Or does it??


  21. #46
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    God damn, I loved Frakes' smug smirks at every terrible pun in Beyond Belief. Good times!
    That song is a lot of fun!

    I made this with a friend. He wrote the music and wanted me to guest sing on one of the tracks. I wrote the vox. Got bored and put it to stock NASA footage the other night. It'll come out on his space synth album whenever he finishes the rest of it.

    You might like it.


  22. #47
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    Hey that was good, you are a great vocalist. Would love to hear you over a more guitar heavy kinda sound.

  23. #48
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    Thanks, dude. I'm in a few music projects now, one of which is prog rock band. We have some heavier songs.

    I actually really liked your E natural minor phrasing video. I play guitar as well, but should be a lot better than I am now since we're a 3 piece!
    But that solo was smooth AF! It actually reminded me of something that I can't quite put my finger on... Lots of cool little expressions in there.

  24. #49
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    Registered: Oct 2016
    Location: The Mystic's Keep
    This is a little project I did this week. I wrote it for the creativity contest Cellar Darling is running, based as per the guidelines on the album The Spell. Not required listening, but certainly recommended to prog fans. This ended up being a lot better than I anticipated considering the actual composition was done sporadically over a few days, and the fact that I can almost physically feel how rusty my drumming is. This was also my first attempt at mixing anything, and all I had was Audacity. I don't think the result is the worst, but if anyone's got any feedback on that it would be great. I'm performing drums and keys on this (including the fake bass present through the whole thing- I'm not cool enough to be a real bass player), and I got a couple of friends to do the guitars and vocals.


  25. #50
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    Registered: Feb 2001
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    pretty interesting, as far as mxing feedback goes I am no producer or anything, but compression/limiting is your friend. Also the vocals are very dry, not sure how limited audacity is as I have never really used it, but you could do something like double track the vocals and pan each left and right, add a short delay and reverb.
    For some reason it reminds me of White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane

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