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  1. #4126
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    Registered: Jun 2001
    Location: under God's grace
    Quote Originally Posted by Sulphur View Post
    At any rate, I think you're overestimating the amount of patience we should have
    I haven't said anything about patience. These are things you can do the very instant someone displays bad behaviour.

    Being nice only takes the conversation so far, at some point after trying the other reasonable options, telling a person to bugger off is the only reasonable one left.
    I'm not talking about being nice. Nice and polite are two different things. You can be direct and truthful without attacking. You always have the option to point out the other person's bad behaviour. If they continue their bad behaviour, you can tell them that and show them the exit. An insult is an emotional response, not an argument. It can feel as if an insult makes an argument stronger, like you imbue it with insult power, but it does the opposite, and it's more difficult to take someone seriously who throws insults.

  2. #4127
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    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Not all anecdotes are equal. If a significant number of the TTLG family had come down with adverse reactions, and we all bore witness to it, that would be a credible anecdote. As it was, while most of us received regular vaccines, nobody here has reported side-effects in all that time. Compared to "a bunch of my friends and neighbours told me", out story fits the actual data.

    COVID vaccines are four or five or six orders of magnitude more helpful than harmful.

  3. #4128
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    Quote Originally Posted by Qooper View Post
    I'm not talking about being nice. Nice and polite are two different things.
    Well, that clears up what the actual issue is.

    And... nah. There's value in a good burn. We've had a long and proud tradition of meeting inanity with zingers, and there's little reason to stop now. The only issue is that SubEff can't make a good one to save his life, which is clearly why that's his name.

  4. #4129
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    Registered: Jan 2024
    Location: Egyptian Afterlife
    Don't worry fellas, I had covid and it wasn't anything of importance it went away like a flu in 5, 7 days.
    When I was suicidal, young and reckless I met a woman who later I knew she died of AIDS, and miraculously I got a fever but never got sick of AIDS, three tests says "Negative".
    I know is hard to believe it, is hard to believe for me either, but here I am, still kicking.

  5. #4130
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    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN

  6. #4131
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    Registered: Jan 2024
    Location: Egyptian Afterlife
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicker View Post
    LOL
    Good one.

  7. #4132
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    Registered: Jun 2001
    Location: under God's grace
    Quote Originally Posted by Sulphur View Post
    And... nah. There's value in a good burn. We've had a long and proud tradition of meeting inanity with zingers, and there's little reason to stop now.
    Actually, I do agree that a really good, thoughtful zing can add comic relief and I'm not against that at all. And there are a few of those here every now and then, and that's certainly a breath of fresh air. It's the fart in the envelope that gets old really fast, you know, adding a little brimstone and shaking your fist "This'll show him!"

    The only issue is that SubEff can't make a good one to save his life, which is clearly why that's his name.
    Well, I don't know him that well so I can't comment on that. Who knows, maybe he's got some really good ones but happened to be lazy in this particular instance.

  8. #4133
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    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Finally COVID (not the first not-so-human-tuned variant) found me.....can't get the vaccine in time this year so here we are.

    Now I know EXACTLY how it works.

    The lung deadly manifestation, just I've always said, is really a minor aspect of the disease and one of the LAST tail of the infection......it's important for the demographic of deaths but man, the virus is really doing some alien shit considering how it attacks the human system.
    The smell/taste damage (I've lost it all in exactly 12 hours 3 days ago) is MASSIVE and totally separate from the nose/mouth mucosa "classic" infection (like in influenza or similar): it starts from the blood vessel feeding the neurons thanks to ACE2 and does so much extensive damage in so little time, without any form of inflammation linked to it (that's for the lungs and the interstitial pneumonia manifestation).

    The first thing you can feel, like in the vaccine, is the action of the replication of the virus as its spike protein and the interaction with the blood vessels when the number spikes (pun intended).
    When this happens you're already infecting other people since 3 days absolutely with no idea of that.
    In the same time some kind of reaction of the kidney system and then *silence*, just some little uneasiness.....and then the real damage of the virus begins.....in the nerves! Just like herpes!

    The respiratory tracts inflammation (and so the pneumonia) is really one of the last manifestation of the infection and meddled with the immune response.

    The virus is indeed moving from an individual to another thanks to the replication in the oral mucosa but it's really wrong to consider the COVID-19 a "respiratory disease" because of that and because of the killer pneumonia (when it happens, the disease can't even progress along that way but take a totally different route).
    Last edited by lowenz; 30th Oct 2024 at 16:59.

  9. #4134
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    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Quote Originally Posted by DuatDweller View Post
    Try to remember that when having a brain stroke or a heart attack.
    It may happen soon.
    Even "that" vaccine maker had to accept that there were side effects.
    A simple blood thinner solves that *rare* incovenience without any risk the virus and the infection involves and when the spike is cleared - it's the spike proliferation that alters the blood vessels behaviour and so can cause light myocarditis or/and clotting - you just got the antibodies ready to protect you from something you can't control or reverse.
    You can reverse a 12 hours heart failure (and even an ischemic stroke by a functional point of view), you CAN'T reverse a 12 hours neural micro-tissue damage.

    Antivaxxers can't grasp how things work, they're just (auto)fearmongers believing in every "antisystem" fantasies (like hydroxychloroquine and other totally unrelated drugs) just for the sake of that and so doing a political (puppet) role.
    Last edited by lowenz; 30th Oct 2024 at 16:49.

  10. #4135
    Level 10,000 achieved
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    I also finally caught the covid. Feels bad. Well, feels like a regular cold, mostly. I'm not happy about it tho. Was gonna go to Games First in Helsinki and get drunk with all my gamedev friends this week. That ain't happening!

  11. #4136
    Get well soon henke and lowenz!

    I've had Covid at least 3 times now, but honestly I've lost count and it could be 5,6 or 7 times. The first time wasn't the worst, it was one of the subsequent times and it was rough. I don't think I've got long-Covid like dema though, so I feel a little lucky.

  12. #4137
    The Necromancer
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    If you have echinacea and vitamin D, take it. I only had it once, milder than a cold, but left me with a dry cough for weeks afterwards

  13. #4138
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    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    No problem here about the respiratory aspect, ZERO. Way less than influenza.

    The big problem is the smell completely suppressed. Vitamin D can't help with that (and really isn't necessary in big quantities), it's more about vitamins of the B group and other things taken for nerve damages (like rethynopaties).

  14. #4139
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    Yeah, you only need Vitamin D if your bloodwork reports that you're deficient in it. If you've got retinopathy or atherosclerosis already, you should be looking at managing your blood pressure too along with taking those B complex supplements.

    Anyway, covid is fucking terrible regardless of how severe its symptoms, so get better soon both of you.

  15. #4140
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    Registered: Mar 2005
    Location: Netherlands
    Yes, get well soon. I had my second covid infection two weeks ago, missed a week of work. Thankfully working went okay again this week and I don't seem to have any post-covid symptoms.

  16. #4141
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    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven

  17. #4142
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Taste is slowly returing, smell will need weeks......

  18. #4143
    In Italy too!

    Sad. Very sad. So sad!

  19. #4144
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2024
    Location: Egyptian Afterlife
    Well nothing that a Pasqualina cake or lasagna or Ravioli with some Ragu cannot fix.

    https://www.marcellinaincucina.com/torta-pasqualina/

  20. #4145
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    Registered: Dec 2006
    Location: Berghem Haven
    Quote Originally Posted by DuatDweller View Post
    Well nothing that a Pasqualina cake or lasagna or Ravioli with some Ragu cannot fix.

    https://www.marcellinaincucina.com/torta-pasqualina/
    LOL

    My (personal) ragù (with the "ù", it's where you put the accent) tastes different but thanks to the Builder I can already savor my beloved zibibbo ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscat_of_Alexandria )
    Still the big problem is the smell (and not only about the cuisine).....I think the taste damage is more about something running interference and not direct nervous damage.

  21. #4146
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    Registered: Jan 2024
    Location: Egyptian Afterlife
    I'm more or a lover of an Amaretto DiSaronno or Zabov, or Cinzano or a Martini.
    But to each his own, I hate wine, because when I was a small boy in parties I nonni gave us water and wine, from then I hate wine.

    For all other occasions caffe espresso (sorry about the lack of accent is messy finding in a keyboard with two different languages, keyboard is Spanish and the OS is in US English), or sparkling water.

  22. #4147
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    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Is Topic Deviation a symptom of COVID?

  23. #4148
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    Registered: Jan 2024
    Location: Egyptian Afterlife
    I'm sorry Nick, maybe I distracted you from your ice hole fishing hobby, or your polar bear petting......

  24. #4149
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    Registered: May 2004
    Location: Canuckistan GWN
    Canada has its first documented case of avian flu (H5N1) in humans. Apparently there are a dozen or so cases in the USA. Human to human spread is presently rare and unstained, with most cases arising in poultry workers.

    However...

    But the more people become infected by animals, the more opportunities the virus has to mutate and spread between humans, said Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at the University of Saskatchewan's Vaccine and Infectious Disease Organization (VIDO).
    "The longer a virus is able to get evolutionary experience with a particular host species, it's going to continue to adapt to being in that host," Rasmussen said.
    "One of those adaptations would potentially be increased transmission and increased transmission efficiency."
    Good thing, at this critical juncture, that the CDC is to be led by a competent expert with only one brain-worm. It will probably disappear by Christmas.

  25. #4150
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    Registered: May 2004
    I don't think they can get rid of the CDC by Christmas.

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