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  1. #751
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starker View Post
    You think there's anywhere the Clintons can't get you?
    ...oh yeah! Holy shit! Suicide by virus! Hillary is crazy, yo!

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    https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-c...120246923.html
    30k dead globally, numbers still far below those of just the flu in the US.

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    Yeah, those flu numbers everyone loves to quote are after it's been rolling around for 12 months. We're only in our 3rd month of Coronavirus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    Correct. But poachers are a special kind of scum. They deserve anything they get.
    But they aren't necessarily poachers. Many of these animals are farmed.

  5. #755
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    ...oh yeah! Holy shit! Suicide by virus! Hillary is crazy, yo!
    H1L4ry! It's a virus!!!111

  6. #756
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    Killary Deathton. Gon kilus ded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    Yeah, those flu numbers everyone loves to quote are after it's been rolling around for 12 months. We're only in our 3rd month of Coronavirus.
    SORRY, I did not mean to down play it, I well aware we are fucked is we reach critical levels at the ICU's. few are taking it seriously as none of the high profile people who have it have died, you need a few movie stars/politicians/sports players to eat it before others take it as serious as they need to, it took magic johnson getting aids before people wrapped their willies ............ welcome to Murika.
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    The first number is the one of the *HOSPITALIZED* patients ("ricoverati" is NOT "recovered" in italian; "guariti" is "recovered" ones)

    6000 deaths.....(and not counting the not positive cases to the test.....'cause they've died at home -> 8000/9000 is maybe a good estimate)
    Last edited by lowenz; 23rd Mar 2020 at 14:11.

  9. #759
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    The Democrats had legitimate reasons to block that bill. They wanted to further expand unemployment protections for people, and nix some provisions that would allow corporations a blank check to do what they want with their stimulus money, like using it to buy back their own stocks, like what they did in 2008. The Republicans are, of course, playing the partisan game by claiming the Democrats are playing the partisan game.

    One thing I've discovered about all this is that it's amazing how many people don't read beyond the headlines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowenz View Post

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  11. #761
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    Dead ones are finally diminishing.....in Lombardy

    yesterday -100 since the day before
    today -41 since yesterday

  12. #762
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/whi...XN_Bx1B4WWwMI4
    WASHINGTON — Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams warned Monday that the coronavirus outbreak will worsen this week and said that people across the country are not taking the threat seriously enough.

    “I want America to understand this week, it's going to get bad,” Adams said in an interview on the “TODAY” show.

    The disease is spreading, he said, because many people — especially young people — are not abiding by guidance to stay at home and practice social distancing.

    “Right now, there are not enough people out there who are taking this seriously,” he said.
    I don't see martial law going into place but I do believe they are about to enforce staying the fuck at home pretty soon.
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    DAMN I MISS Boyd Crowder. entertaining mofo for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jkcerda View Post
    I don't see martial law going into place but I do believe they are about to enforce staying the fuck at home pretty soon.
    Martial law will end up being an absolute shit show. There are already a bunch of people playing the "YOU CAN'T TAKE MY CONSTITUTIONAL FREEDOMS FROM ME, STATISTS" card over suggested social distancing and restaurant closures. If the government deploys the military to enforce a mandatory quarantine, they'll probably go full squirrely.

    ...won't last long, but there'll be some shit.

  14. #764
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    MUH FUKING FREEDOM................

    took me a bit to get that it's not the 2% death rate that matters, it's not the mild symptoms or this affecting mostly the old, we are going to end up worse than Italy based on the numbers alone if people don't fucking stay home and help to stop the spread of this. but again until a dead politician/sports player or actor eats it there is no real face to the virus here. Tom Hanks seems fine, the Jazz players? fine..... some of them need to eat it in order for the rest of retard Murika to take notice.

  15. #765
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    A celebrity dying would make it feel more immediate to some people, but they'll also take notice when a few of their friends and family start dropping dead around them too.

    You know, the one thing that made this feel truly serious to me was when I got one of my taco cravings a couple days ago. Usually, all I have to do is run down to the local Mexican place to grab a couple three. Ain't no thing. This time? I wanted my tacos, but the place was closed down due to the virus. Even if it wasn't, I was gambling with a small, but still very real risk of death were I to go for them.

    That was when it started feeling real to me, the moment when I couldn't easily get my tacos.

  16. #766
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    It's just...tragic, man.

    Also:


  17. #767
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    A 13 year old girl died in Panama today. No mention, so far, of underlying causes which is usually stated. Poor little mite and now I worry more for my grandchildren. I read today that the WHO say the spread of the virus is accelerating.
    It took 67 days from the first reported case to reach the first 100,000 cases of Covid-19, but it took only 11 days for the second 100,000 cases, and just four days for the third 100,000 cases, WHO director general Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, said.
    I am confused by conflicting reports. I listened to a US doctor say that her dog couldn't get it but I've read of two dogs now who've tested positive. The first dog subsequently died but I don't think that was because of the virus.

    I listened to another US doctor describe a scenario where one of those dickhead brats on a spring break took the virus home, left again, and 2 hours later, a grandparent could walk in the room and catch the virus. I didn't think this was airborne.

    Clarification would be appreciated.

  18. #768
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    everyone is under the impression this is an old people problem, just like AIDS was supposed to be a gay problem, few have the capacity to understand that virus fucking mutates and we can ALL be in a world of shit pretty soon.

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  19. #769
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renzatic View Post
    A celebrity dying would make it feel more immediate to some people, but they'll also take notice when a few of their friends and family start dropping dead around them too.

    You know, the one thing that made this feel truly serious to me was when I got one of my taco cravings a couple days ago. Usually, all I have to do is run down to the local Mexican place to grab a couple three. Ain't no thing. This time? I wanted my tacos, but the place was closed down due to the virus. Even if it wasn't, I was gambling with a small, but still very real risk of death were I to go for them.

    That was when it started feeling real to me, the moment when I couldn't easily get my tacos.
    Unfortunately, it seems that to a lot of people it takes a death or a near death to get the message across:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/19/u...rk-frilot.html

    [...]Mark Frilot — 45 years old, “never, ever sick” — came home with a fever.

    In the haze of days that followed, Ms. Frilot, a 43-year-old oil-and-gas analyst, occupied one world, the rest of her community in Kenner, La., another. She saw her friends making jokes on social media about the coronavirus — eye-roll emojis, Fox News talking points, Rush Limbaugh quotes writing off the threat. And then one person asked if anyone really had this thing.

    Ms. Frilot had an answer to that.

    “I have been seeing a lot of posts about people taking this virus lightly and joking about it,” she began in a Facebook post. “Mark has tested positive for the coronavirus.”

    Days earlier, it never occurred to Ms. Frilot (pronounced FREE-low) that her husband’s fever that Friday — 99 point something or another, low enough that she teased him for being a wuss — would lead to this, even as his condition rapidly worsened.

    By March 8, a Sunday, his temperature was 101.9. The flu, urgent-care doctors in Kenner told him.

    Wednesday night, and the fever had worsened. “I just couldn’t break it,” Ms. Frilot said, remembering how she alternated between Tylenol and Advil, just as the doctor prescribed. She found her husband sitting on the edge of the bathtub, wrapped in a towel, talking to himself.

    Thursday morning, emergency room. Thursday night, ICU. Friday morning, intubation. Saturday, coronavirus test results: positive.

    [...]

    Crises are political only until they are personal. As news of Mr. Frilot’s diagnosis spread, among his friends and on Nola.com, his story was no longer just that of a young, healthy person who caught a virus that young, healthy people had been told they were not supposed to catch. It was a revelation for the conservative suburbs of New Orleans, where many had written off the pandemic as liberal fear-mongering. Mr. Frilot, a registered Republican, and his family are generally apolitical, and were not thinking much about the virus — whether as a fiction or anything else — before he got sick. But many in their community had opinions on it from the start.

    The language they used was the language politicians and media figures were also using. On March 8, when Mr. Frilot first went to urgent care, President Trump retweeted a joke from his White House social media director about Nero fiddling as Rome burned. The next night, Sean Hannity said on his prime time Fox News show that the virus was the media’s attempt to “bludgeon” Mr. Trump with “this new hoax.”

    After Ms. Frilot shared her husband’s experience, she saw social-media musings about the virus as a liberal plot to tank the stock market come to a halt, toilet-paper jokes no longer rack up likes. Several people have called her “to pass on to me that everyone has been awakened,” Ms. Frilot said. “Because everyone knows Mark.”
    [...]
    https://www.nola.com/news/coronaviru...e94bc7f56.html

    On March 10, Natasha Ott, 39, felt the beginnings of a cold coming on.

    She had a slight fever. CrescentCare, the medical clinic where she worked, had only a handful of tests for the new strain of coronavirus on hand. She initially passed on the chance to take one, after being told she was low-risk for the serious disease.

    When her symptoms didn't shake, she did take the test on Monday. By Thursday, she felt "something in her lungs," she told longtime partner Josh Anderson. But she still felt well enough by then to join Anderson as the pair walked her dog.

    On Friday, Anderson found Ott dead in her kitchen.

    [...]

    Speaking in an interview Saturday, after his social media post recounting Ott's experience was shared hundreds of times, he said the dearth of tests shows how ill-equipped New Orleans is to handle a pandemic that has already claimed 16 lives and infected nearly 600 people across the state.

    "She could have gotten a test last Friday, but they only had five tests, and she didn’t want to use one of them," Anderson said.

    Less than a week ago, he was one of those who believed younger, relatively healthy people like Ott and himself would be fine amid the outbreak.

    "I believed that people should stay home, but I don’t think I fully understood what the consequences could be if they didn’t," he said.
    [...]

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickie View Post
    I am confused by conflicting reports. I listened to a US doctor say that her dog couldn't get it but I've read of two dogs now who've tested positive. The first dog subsequently died but I don't think that was because of the virus.
    I've heard some warnings about it being vaguely possible to transmit the disease to your cats and dogs, since coronavirus variants are actually fairly common among house pets. If those two dogs have been confirmed to have it, this will be the first case I've heard of them actually being able to contract Covid-19.

    I listened to another US doctor describe a scenario where one of those dickhead brats on a spring break took the virus home, left again, and 2 hours later, a grandparent could walk in the room and catch the virus. I didn't think this was airborne.
    It's hard to say. From what I've read, contracting it airborne is exceedingly rare, though it can survive aerosolized for up to 3 hours.

  21. #771
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    Don't listen to anything coming out of the USA. That's your starter for ten.

  22. #772
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    Thanks, Renz. Google returns many reports about the dogs, in Hong Kong, but I don't have the energy to read at the moment. I could have done that before, I expect.

    I came back to edit my post to say that dickheads are not confined to the US. Our (Welsh) government has just ordered the closure of caravan parks and tourist spots in Wales because our own brand were out in force over the weekend. Probably the safest thing to do as the English are still detested and I wouldn't be surprised to see the pitchforks out if they kept coming.

    Edit. Thanks, SubJeff. I know you're right but I'm fascinated by the apparent disconnect between the US view of itself and what the rest of the world thinks. And by the way, my very grateful thanks to you and your colleagues.

  23. #773
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    I wonder when will come the point when testing for the virus gets completely abandoned. I read that testing capacity for Germany was 12K per day some days ago - which given the amount of positives found per day there seemed to steer towards not having enough ... leading to an artificial drop in spread stats.

    ... hm ...

    Now it seem some places in USA seem to give up on testing anyone not already needing hospitalization (correct if i am wrong). So far the daily new case count for USA draws a pretty convincing 1.4 line (~ doubling every 2 days) on the logarithmic scale over ~24 (!) days. Which is crazy high (highest Italy ever got, excluding only the initial jump of 1->17->58, was 1.3 (rounding up) before settling around 1.25 and now has gradually curved down to 1.1 and still lowering).

  24. #774
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    Quote Originally Posted by zombe View Post
    Now it seem some places in USA seem to give up on testing anyone not already needing hospitalization (correct if i am wrong). So far the daily new case count for USA draws a pretty convincing 1.4 line (~ doubling every 2 days) on the logarithmic scale over ~24 (!) days. Which is crazy high (highest Italy ever got, excluding only the initial jump of 1->17->58, was 1.3 (rounding up) before settling around 1.25 and now has gradually curved down to 1.1 and still lowering).
    It's likely to spread in the US faster than elsewhere because we have 4 populous points of entry at each corner of the country that sees a ton of traffic, we like to travel a lot, and, most importantly, we only started taking it truly seriously just two weeks ago, while it's been silently spreading about for close to a month now.

    We've got a rough couple of months to look forward to.

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    Country bumpkins!

    Anyway, were on moderate lockdown now. Good job Boris!

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