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pretty good odds even if you get it.The latest coronavirus death rate is 3.4% — higher than earlier figures. Older patients face the highest risk.
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hope they recover soon.
Chile, Argentina, and Poland have now been infected.
Worldwide:
Total Confirmed Cases
94,261
Total Deaths
3,214
Total Recovered
51,039
Looking at the graph, what we want to see is the green line (Total Recovered) maintain a higher trajectory than the orange and yellow lines (Total Infected), in order to avoid a negative spiral effect.
the flu killed over 60k per year in the US alone ....
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.htmlWhile the impact of flu varies, it places a substantial burden on the health of people in the United States each year. CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.
An entirely meaningless comparison. The flu...
* infects a massive amount of people, way more than the currently confirmed coronavirus cases
* is much less lethal
* usually has enough resources available to treat it
* has a vaccine to reduce both the chance of catching it and dying from its complications
It's that we don't know much about it that's so scary. This is a virus that's directly related to SARS, a much deadlier sickness. Will it mutate? If so, when? Tomorrow? 10 years from now? Will it become less lethal? More?
Who the hell knows?
Meanwhile, you can practically time your watch by what we know the flu does.
symptoms are similar between them.
* we have flu season every damn year
* HOW the hell did you get that ? https://www.kff.org/other/state-indi...2:%22asc%22%7D that is about 14% per 100 infections? flu is worse
* see above, far more deaths due to flu
* likewise on corona, the symptoms are very similar
* your chances of dying from Corona virus are 3.5%...........................
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SOME of you are seemingly scared over a virus that does not hold a candle to flu deaths .
Um... read it again and think about it a little. Is it really the case that 14% of people who catch the flu die?
Also, your chances of dying from coronavirus depend a lot on in how much risk you are -- how old you are, do you have any chronic illnesses, are you immunocompromised, how good are the health services in your area, etc.
damn, sounds just like the flu only you have a lot more deaths from the flu.
Really don't understand your maths there, jk. From your previous link the estimated rate in 2018 was 61 thousand deaths out of 45 million people with symptoms - that's around 0.14%. Using your "good odds" figure of 3.4% for covid-19 then about 1.5 million people in the US would die if the same number of people caught it.
(your other link of flu being responsible for 14.9 deaths (not %) per 100,000 people in the US is age adjusted but would be roughly 49 thousand for the entire population which is reasonably consistent with the CDC burden figures)
The only reason why we have more deaths from the flu is because we don't spend billions of dollars quarantining entire cities every time it breaks out. If we let corona spread without trying to stop it, it'd infect twice as many people, and the death toll would be considerably higher.
Think of it like this:
The flu infected 42,000,000 people, and killed around 61,200 in 2019. 0.14% of everyone who caught the flu died.
Coronavirus has infected 90,000 people so far. If it were just as deadly as the flu, it would've only killed 128 people so far. Instead, it's killed around 3000.
So you could imagine how much worse it would be if it spread unabated. Even then, it wouldn't be the end of the world, but it'd be really not fucking fun in the least. It'd basically be another 1918 epidemic
Lol jck be all dumb
The mortality rate of regular flu is around 0.05%. The mortality rate of Corona was 2% we were told. Today on the news it is now said that the rate has been adjusted to 3.4%. My guess is it will go up a little. Maybe to 5%. Reason: the Chinese have been lying. E.g. Italy has 3k+ infections, and 107 deaths today. That's already 3.3%, and not all infected have either recovered or died.
So, is 5% mortality-rate a big deal ? Or not news-worthy. That's up to you.
I was using common core math
you guys are correct, my apologies.
we are no putting cities on Quarantine, quarantines right now seem to be voluntary.
this could cripple our economy to a degree but since it is world wide we would all be in the same boat somewhat breaking even.
if in quarantine, HOW are people going to pay their bills? if you are under advised quarantine and have bills to pay your ass will head out to work. ..
again I was wrong in the numbers so my apologies.
Here's how they compare, according to our current best estimates:
This is basically correct...Yet, to be clear, the newly discovered Wuhan Coronavirus is named "COVID-19". Which of right now, has a (3.41%) death rate, resulting in roughly 7x (672%) the death rate of the seasonal flu.
EDIT: In addition, the morality rate for COVID-19 is certainly higher than what is being reported here, due to the lack of testing and cover-up by the Chinese government.
Last edited by Vae; 4th Mar 2020 at 18:03.
Should've clarified. China locked down 5 or 6 cities, the rest of the world is still voluntary. But we're all spending billions combating it.
Actually, South Korea, which has the highest number of cases outside China, is only reporting a death rate of 0.6%.
They are dealing with it in a different way, test more, catching more. The healthcare practices make a lot of difference. It's not as simple as saying "death rate is X".
don't care about China, oh wait my wish order is going to be late
Of course there are a number of variables, which include region, age, pre-existing conditions, etc...First World nations such as South Korea that have advanced western medical practices and technical resources are going to get notably better results than the developing areas of the world, which get hit the hardest. However, the worldwide mortality rate aggregate is useful for understanding the threat level of the virus itself, when compared to Influenza A, B, C, and D.
Also, it's extremely important to keep in mind that if the rate of infection increases to the point that it overwhelms the ability to effectively test and treat, then we would see a higher mortality rate in that region.
Last edited by Vae; 4th Mar 2020 at 22:57.
I hear Wish gets someone to lick every item they send overseas.don't care about China, oh wait my wish order is going to be late
Sending it to family back in China I suppose.
Edit:
And we're officially at three confirmed cases here.
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