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Thread: TMA20AC Mission Where the Unknown Lurks (Mar 24, 2020)

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    Desperately Dodgy Moderator
    Registered: Nov 2001
    Location: France

    TMA20AC Mission Where the Unknown Lurks (Mar 24, 2020)

    This thread is for any discussion or questions related to the mission Where the Unknown Lurks by Skejven.
    You can download the mission HERE or HERE.
    The contest thread is HERE.

    Please give clues instead of outright solutions when helping others and use the spoiler tag when you do this.

    Remember that this mission, and by extension every mission made for the contest, is for THIEF 2. As such, do not load it with Thief 1/GOLD! It is highly recommended you do not use the Enhancement Pack and/or HD texture packs to play this mission. It is also recommended you uncheck all optional features T2Fix comes with if you update to the latest version of the full executable.
    Last edited by Yandros; 25th Mar 2020 at 00:08.

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    What a fabulous FM! Atmospheric, looks beautiful, plays like good old Thief ... but with some twists!

    I want a house like that! Together with the underground Hammerite church! Didn't see that one coming to be honest, I thought it's gonna be one of those short and sweet FMs and I'll finish it tonight. Also, awesome Planescape:Torment reference!

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    Member
    Registered: Oct 2001
    Location: 0x0x0
    Time to polish my lock picks, dust off the blackjack, pickup a few rope arrows and give the boots a good spit shine. No point in waiting. It's time to begin.

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    Member
    Registered: Oct 2017
    Location: France
    Cute mission . Short and sweet, very cool.

    Unless you find the (admittedly easy as hell to do so) Hammerite Temple stuffs. This area is like 3x the play area of everything else but optional for... Reasons, I guess? Would have been really cool to have this be the main meat of the mission and have the lore of it expanded upon. As it is, its a really cool side area and probably like 500x better than the main areas, if I'm being frank :P

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    New Member
    Registered: Nov 2018
    Location: New York
    I really quite liked this one, I liked the architecture of the castle. I'll always give props to people Hiding things behind bannisters, if only because when I first played through Thief those were the only secrets I could find.

    I enjoyed the optional quest, especially how I just expected you to go down and get a bunch of loot then leave, and that it was likely 2/3rds of the level entirely, which is a bit of an odd choice admittedly.

    This was a solid first level to play in this contest.

  7. #7
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2008
    Location: Deutschland/Germany

    Quote Originally Posted by mallso View Post
    This was a solid first level to play in this contest.
    Mine, too.

    I was all about to leave this "small" mission when I thought it was done but then I realized that there must have been much more loot hidden. So as a master thief I restarted, loaded back and then finally discovered the underworld. That was really unexpected!

    Finished playing hard with 3514/3944 loot.

    BTW did anybody else transform the guards into rats?
    My FM campaigns Garrett's Young Years XTra, Reunion With Basso
    Want your upcoming FM translated in foreign languages?

  8. #8
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2003
    Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas!
    I agree I thought it was a very short mission so i ended it then I came to this thread and found out I needed to go back and explore more and I am glad I did WOW what a treat this was awesome!!

  9. #9
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2007
    Location: USA
    I've picked up all of the glowing body parts except for the leg. IDK if it bugs out from quicksaving/quickloading, but I can't find it wandering around anywhere. If it's in a secret place, I just want a hint.

  10. #10
    New Member
    Registered: Dec 2019
    Location: Poland
    Quote Originally Posted by Corsair View Post
    I've picked up all of the glowing body parts except for the leg. IDK if it bugs out from quicksaving/quickloading, but I can't find it wandering around anywhere. If it's in a secret place, I just want a hint.
    Big face in a wall will know the answer

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    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: CT, USA
    I had the same problem with the leg, earlier I roped up on top of those beams thinking there might be something up there, not sure I would've found it without the hint.

    Really enjoyed this & almost missed the underground section too. I liked that the zombies can't get you after turning them into rats. First entry I've played and a great way to begin, many thanks to its builder!

  12. #12
    New Member
    Registered: Dec 2019
    Location: Poland
    If you think you're done with the mission then maybe this lil fun fact about it will interest you
    As a fan of mesoamerica I always wanted to make an FM inspired by mayas, incas, aztecs, toltecs etc. So before the hammerite complex idea was born this was meant to be the "main optional" area.
    Maya temples, buildings, even a court for the meso ballgame . Then I realized I probably won't be able to make this a fun area using only stock assets, and also the layout of whole place was pretty meh and not planned at all. So in the end I scrapped it. Here are some screenshots in dromed https://imgur.com/a/KxAyLzb

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    New Member
    Registered: May 2018
    Location: Bristol
    I remember when you showed me that, it was very cool so it's a shame it had to be scrapped.

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    Member
    Registered: Aug 2012
    Location: France
    I think the location where you find the leg should have been lit more. I had to check this thread for hints to find it, and even then I wandered around for a while trying to find a face in the wall somewhere, which was hard to find due to the lack of lighting in that area.

  15. #15
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2011
    i got problems with all 3 downloadlinks

    this is the error message:
    this file is downloaded rarely

  16. #16
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2003
    Location: Switzerland
    radogoal:

    I had the same problem. I found out that this was caused by firefox browser I usually use. Try to download with microsoft standard internet explorer and it will work.

    And then I wish you happy hours with this nice mission,
    greetings, urumo

  17. #17
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2011
    I for one can't find the secret underground Could it be because I'm playing on Normal?

  18. #18
    New Member
    Registered: Dec 2019
    Location: Poland
    Quote Originally Posted by zajazd View Post
    I for one can't find the secret underground Could it be because I'm playing on Normal?
    There is a riddle to be solved in the highest point in the castle. You will need a scroll with instructions in order to solve it, but it's very easy to find.

  19. #19
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2016
    Location: The Mystic's Keep
    Really nice looking mission, plus the secret that's 2/3 of the mission for some reason was a pleasant surprise. I think the presence of the Mechanists was a bit odd as the area would have worked just as well as a straight undead affair, but that's a minor complaint. A tad more development on the pagan front might also have helped, but otherwise it was a good mission and fun to play.

  20. #20
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2011
    so i was able to download this mission, but when i integrate this mission in angelloader , this mission will not be noticed

  21. #21
    New Member
    Registered: Dec 2019
    Location: Poland
    Quote Originally Posted by radogoal View Post
    so i was able to download this mission, but when i integrate this mission in angelloader , this mission will not be noticed
    No idea tbh. I use FMsel but I know that for a few people with AngelLoader this mission worked just fine.

  22. #22
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2011
    Quote Originally Posted by Skejven View Post
    There is a riddle to be solved in the highest point in the castle. You will need a scroll with instructions in order to solve it, but it's very easy to find.
    I tend to skip readables that are longer than one page, my mistake.

    This is one of the stronger contest missions with a lovely level design, congrats

  23. #23
    Member
    Registered: May 2003
    Location: West Seattle
    thanks to everyone here I've found all 4 roaming body parts; I've returned to their owner, but what do I do with them?

  24. #24
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2015
    Location: Shawano County, Wisconsin
    Beautiful mission, Skejven!

    No speedbrains allowed, huh? Good thing that doesn't pertain to me...

  25. #25
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2004
    MrMunkeepants Put them into the sarcophagus (select "item" and press r to drop it).

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