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  1. #26
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    I have plenty of sympathy for people with mental issues; but like Jesh says, having mental issues doesn't mean their actions can be excused or waved away. Boogiewhatever's obviously functioning well enough to seek help and not act out, but if he hasn't, that's on him. I know at least two people with borderline psychosis, bipolar disorder and all the concomitant issues that go with those, and they chose to find qualified therapists of their own volition. That's the reason I'm friends with them to begin with: despite everything, they're self-aware, and exercised a choice to make things better.

    Acknowledging you have a problem and then not doing anything about it makes you far worse of a person than someone who can't see it to begin with.

    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    This is one of those cases, where your not going to be satisfied unless I read through it all extensively and then state my side after reading it, and I'm telling you that I'm not going to do that. If that makes me a weirdo or whatever, then meh fine.
    It doesn't make you a weirdo that you're switching half of your brain off. I'll leave the obvious conclusion as to what that means for those who don't.

  2. #27
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: they/them mayhem
    Oh, are we defending Boogie1488 in this thread then? I see we're playing the "separate the art from the artist" game with JonTron too.

    This thread doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

  3. #28
    Because TTLG is just evil, right?

  4. #29
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: they/them mayhem
    Yeah, you got me, why else would I post here?

  5. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    If he had done horrible things, he'd have been arrested which he hasn't.
    That might be how things work in cop dramas, but it's not how things works in the real world.

    Not only does a victim need to file a report with the police, the police also has to believe the victim. This can have varying levels of success depending on where you are in the world (down to individual precincts), which specific officer is spoken to and how the victim (friend/whoever) presents themselves. Then if the story is believed, the officer has to make an evaluation on the seriousness of the offense, whether a repeat is likely, how hard it would be gather enough evidence, whether the precinct has the resources to go after the case (or if other cases would take precedence before this case gets too old to pursue), what effect a visit from the police would have on the offender. And if something doesn't fall into place, the case is likely to get dropped (possibly with an apology to the victim).

    And that's assuming the victim can name the offender and isn't too scared of some sort of backlash to go to the police.

  6. #31
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Maupertuis
    Quote Originally Posted by Sulphur View Post
    I have plenty of sympathy for people with mental issues; but like Jesh says, having mental issues doesn't mean their actions can be excused or waved away.
    I don't know anything about Boogie1488. However, I strongly agree with the above, and I'm speaking as a person with severe mental illness. As flawed as I am, I would be a far worse person today if I had allowed myself to use my illness as an excuse.

  7. #32
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    On a different note, while Folding Ideas and Innuendo Studios mostly focus on other issues than games, I've enjoyed many of their game-related videos in the past, such as the following:





    They both very much come at it from an angle of cultural criticism/critique, though, and they unapologetically veer into the political. If you mind that, you're likely not to enjoy their work.

  8. #33
    Member
    Registered: May 2004
    If game critique is what you want, I've enjoyed Errant Signal quite a bit. He occasionally veers into the more academic analysis side of things and also looks at lesser known indies from time to time. Right now, though, he's doing a series on early 90s FPS games:


  9. #34
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: The Plateaux Of Mirror
    Errant Signal is great. I don't watch all of his videos, because a necessary part of his critiques is spoiling the game story/mechanics, but the stuff I've seen is great.

  10. #35
    Level 10,000 achieved
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    Cloth Map uploads rarely but has some good content. Hosted by Drew Scanlon (of blinking_man.gif fame), it features interviews with game developers the world over. Their most recent video is this interview with Croteam, and it's pretty interesting hearing about just how hard it was to get a game dev studio off the ground in early 2000s Croatia.


  11. #36
    El Shagmeister
    Registered: Jul 2000
    Location: Under your fingernails.
    LALALALALALAAAA, THERE ARE NO TREES IN THIS FOREST, WHAT THE FUCK?

    OW. I BUMPED INTO A TREE.

    WHERE IS IT NOW? YOUR SHITTING ME.

    LALALALALALALALA, I SEE NOTHING!

  12. #37
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: they/them mayhem
    Folding Ideas is unquestionably one of the best channels on Youtube. I particularly liked his explainer on creepy kids' animation on Youtube and how people abuse the algorithm:


  13. #38
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Somewhere
    The thing I dont get about that is why the creepy weirdass content? Surely if this is exploitation of algorithms for increased ad revenue streams, why wouldnt you make the content as safe and kid friendly as possible? Instead of Spiderman injects stuff up pregnant elsa ass, why not spiderman and elsa take a walk in a park. Kids would watch either just as much, and the safe content would fly under the radar so much more.
    One would have to assume that at least some of it is made with malicious intent, which is fucked.
    Also, dont let your 3-4 year old kid watch youtube unsupervised

  14. #39
    Level 10,000 achieved
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    but it it wasn't for kids animation youtube we wouldn't have this masterpiece.


  15. #40
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2004
    Location: Netherlands
    Quote Originally Posted by PigLick View Post
    The thing I dont get about that is why the creepy weirdass content? Surely if this is exploitation of algorithms for increased ad revenue streams, why wouldnt you make the content as safe and kid friendly as possible? Instead of Spiderman injects stuff up pregnant elsa ass, why not spiderman and elsa take a walk in a park. Kids would watch either just as much, and the safe content would fly under the radar so much more.
    One would have to assume that at least some of it is made with malicious intent, which is fucked.
    Also, dont let your 3-4 year old kid watch youtube unsupervised
    That assumes they're in this for the long haul. If they were, they'd probably just try to make good content. What I think happens is that they're basing the video subjects off of frequently searched words to SEO their titles, and they really don't care about their audience as long as they're getting their hits and ad revenue. They know the grift will be over at some point, so they're going for max profit before it does.

    And I think the grift is now officially over, with the new youtube content-for-children policy that means that content for children is now bringing in substantially less revenue.

  16. #41
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Maupertuis
    Quote Originally Posted by june gloom View Post
    Folding Ideas is unquestionably one of the best channels on Youtube. I particularly liked his explainer on creepy kids' animation on Youtube and how people abuse the algorithm:
    After watching that video I went and read the James Bridle article... very strange and informative, thank you! Though I was amused by the fact that all but one of Bridle's example videos had since been taken down.

  17. #42
    Taking the Death Toll
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: they/them mayhem
    Quote Originally Posted by PigLick View Post
    The thing I dont get about that is why the creepy weirdass content? Surely if this is exploitation of algorithms for increased ad revenue streams, why wouldnt you make the content as safe and kid friendly as possible? Instead of Spiderman injects stuff up pregnant elsa ass, why not spiderman and elsa take a walk in a park. Kids would watch either just as much, and the safe content would fly under the radar so much more.
    One would have to assume that at least some of it is made with malicious intent, which is fucked.
    Also, dont let your 3-4 year old kid watch youtube unsupervised
    Cultural differences probably. Most of this stuff is made by a handful of outfits in South Asia. (The live action stuff is Russian, which is a whole 'nother can of worms.) I don't think it's malicious so much as the teams working on this stuff simply have no idea that it's objectionable in the west, or at the very least they're uncaring because it brings in the money.

    It's not just kids' videos either. The phenomenon seems to have either branched off of, or developed alongside, the worrying trend of weird Frozen-themed flash games.

  18. #43
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    Quote Originally Posted by icemann View Post
    And that is the last I have to say on it.
    Good. Keep it that way.

  19. #44
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Maupertuis
    Quote Originally Posted by Sulphur View Post
    Good. Keep it that way.
    Hey, don't be mean.

    Broadly speaking, I've compensated for my illness by making extra effort to be rational. Or rather, by making extra effort to develop the abilities that constitute rationality. However, there's an awful lot of deranged public writing of mine out there. A person who so desired could compile it into a very damning document, simply by selection and omission.

    *shrugs* Again, I know little about Boogie, and I don't care enough to go find out more. I checked out a couple of his videos, found them decent but not compelling, then moved on to the other recommendations in this thread.
    Last edited by Anarchic Fox; 14th May 2020 at 15:08.

  20. #45
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchic Fox View Post
    Hey, don't be mean.
    I'm not; I literally don't want to read any more apologism for bad behaviour without an ounce of critical thinking wrapped around it, because it's exhausting to read. There's times when it makes sense, and there's times when biases warp your argument, and this is very clearly a product of the latter plus not thinking very hard combined with a blind spot the size of a continent. I think you need to be able to discern when someone's arguing to justify behaviour because they relate to it and want it validated more than actually being, you know, empathetic.

    And really, don't you get enough of that in your day to day to begin with?

  21. #46
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Maupertuis
    So... how about that SuperBunnyHop, eh? So far he's the only one to make it to my permanent list. Ross's Game Dungeon is great at times, but tedious at others. The embedded Bed Bananas Hitman video was fantastic, the rest of the channel not so great... however, I noticed that the Hitman one is very recent, so maybe it has just hit its stride. The others were not to my taste, or else things I'd enjoy as written work, not as videos.

  22. #47
    Level 10,000 achieved
    Registered: Mar 2001
    Location: Finland
    Noclip has an Arkane documentary coming out next week! They'll talk about Dishonored, Prey, Arx, and Dark Messiah of course, but more excitingly they'll also be getting into the cancelled games The Crossing and LMNO.

    https://twitter.com/noclipvideo/stat...01093190316033

  23. #48
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    I've been watching Bay Area Buggs GTAV Role Play videos recently. He's got like 500 episodes of them that are averaging like 1.5 million views apiece, and each one is entertaining at that level.

    It makes me kind of want to jump into a role play world like this, but something you can just pop in and out of without needing all the commitment and committed friends that this seems to require. But anyway, it's entertaining to watch other people at it. There is something special about (1) gaming with real people that (2) successfully manages to keep the griefers out and everybody is playing along in good faith.

  24. #49
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    Ars Technica's got this series called War Stories which invites developers to talk about some of the challenges they faced when making their games. There's one on Homeworld, one on Thief (with Paul Neurath), and a nice one with Sam Lake on Alan Wake.

  25. #50
    So yep, the thread has people that have cataloged everything he's said, done, going really far back, text logs of private conversations etc. Plus a heap of lies. The guys behind all that are a bunch of evil bullies that delight on the suffering of others. I believe in that so strongly, because I have encountered people like that in my own life. The fact that so many believe it all is the saddest part. And also, if you take at face value everything said by one with mental illness, then really anyone with any kind of mental illness shouldn't be allowed on the internet then, as they say and do crazy shit. That is mental illness. I've met MANY people with mental illness across my lifetime, and they have said and done bad shit, because they are fucked up mentally. Also just generally if you were able to catalog everything anyone has said, across their entire lifetime then we're all damned. Question in my mind is why those people started cataloging him in the first place, and the amount of effort and time required to do so.
    That's why I try to keep a distance from that "influencer" drama and refuse to watch anyone who participates in it, which unfortunately shortens my list rather dramatically.

    I get the distinct impression that a lot of "gamer influencer" culture is just high school girl social bullying tactics on steroids. It's unfortunate life never really seems to move on past high school.


    One thing I may suggest to get over bullying: work on fitness and physical training. I know it sounds vain as hell but it really does make you feel differently when you're fit, look like it, and know you look better than those people ever did.

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