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  • Windows 10

    43 65.15%
  • Windows 8 or 8.1

    5 7.58%
  • Windows 7

    16 24.24%
  • Windows Vista

    0 0%
  • Windows 2000

    0 0%
  • Windows XP

    2 3.03%
  • Windows ME

    0 0%
  • Windows 98 or 98SE

    0 0%
  • Windows 95

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Thread: What OS do you play Thief 1-3 on?

  1. #1
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2005
    Location: Billings, MT

    What OS do you play Thief 1-3 on?

    Just curious, what is the minimum version of windows that you play Thief 1-3 on?

    EDIT: Only consider T1 & T2 when answering the poll. I know T3 can't go back as far.
    Last edited by tolsen64; 17th May 2020 at 14:58. Reason: clarification

  2. #2
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2005
    Location: Billings, MT
    I know, Windows 2000 and Windows XP should be reversed in the poll list. But I can't edit the poll.

  3. #3
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    Windows 7. I'm holding onto it as long as possible

  4. #4
    Member
    Registered: Mar 2005
    Location: Kent, UK
    Windows 10 now'a days.

  5. #5
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2001
    Location: Lille, France
    Latest Windows 10 64bit.

    Why windows-only in the poll? There's Linux and MacOS.

  6. #6
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2010
    Location: Switzerland
    Quote Originally Posted by Azaran View Post
    Windows 7. I'm holding onto it as long as possible
    and there is totally no reason for that...windows 10 works so great, I bet you love your Thief 1 without patches?

  7. #7
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    Quote Originally Posted by Supremcee View Post
    and there is totally no reason for that...windows 10 works so great, I bet you love your Thief 1 without patches?
    All my patches work fine on Windows 7. I use Windows 10 for work, and don't like it at all - don't care for forced updates either. Plus I hear a couple of programs I have won't work on Win 10.
    I know I'll have to upgrade eventually, but as long as it works, I'm keeping Win 7.

  8. #8
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: CT, USA
    Windows 9 and OS/2.

  9. #9
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2018
    Location: Ukraine
    Why not add Linux? Thief 1-2 works excellent with wine.

  10. #10
    New Member
    Registered: Mar 2020
    I have only just recently and reluctantly made the move to the Win 10 from 8.1 on my main machine (I upgrade to Ryzen 300 & X570). I use a combination of Shutup10 and WindowsFirewallControl (binisoft) to block the bulk of the telemetry.

  11. #11
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: Sheffield, UK
    I play on Zorinos 15, a ubuntu variant, using wine

  12. #12
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2005
    Location: Billings, MT
    Quote Originally Posted by A.Stahl View Post
    Why not add Linux? Thief 1-2 works excellent with wine.
    What do you use to play fan missions? Do any fan mission loaders work on wine?

  13. #13
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: Sheffield, UK
    Quote Originally Posted by tolsen64 View Post
    What do you use to play fan missions? Do any fan mission loaders work on wine?
    I made a shell file that cd's to wherever Thief is installed then "wine THIEF.EXE" for thief 1/G & "wine THIEF2.EXE" for thief2

    I use fmsel to load missions, doesn't seem to have any issues

  14. #14
    New Member
    Registered: Apr 2020
    I use Wine on macOS. Works great except there is no fog.

    FMSel for fan missions.

    I plan to switch to Linux in the future.

  15. #15
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2019
    Location: Poland
    I play on both Windows 8.1 64bit (my main notebook) and Windows XP Professional SP3 32bit on my old Pentium 4 machine, but I could only pick one in the poll...

    Also I agree that Linux/MacOS/ReactOS should be added to the poll as well.

    Personally I'm holding onto my heavily manually debloated 8.1 as long as possible and not touching 10 with a 2 metre pole. I'd rather move to Linux in the future if I really needed (or ReactOS in case a miracle happens and it suddenly starts bearing semblance of a useful OS)

  16. #16
    The most annoying problem with Windows 10 is that they inexplicably made the UI run like a 386. Try it: In Windows 7, go to Windows Firewall, click "Inbound rules" or "Outbound rules", and look at the list. Observe the speed at which it draws. Then do the same in Windows 10. Then try dragging the edge of the window. That window, as well as any others using the built-in Win32 UI, are now literal tens of times slower on Windows 10 for some reason. Also, try putting a bunch of icons on the desktop in Windows 7 and moving your mouse around over them. Instant highlighting. Now do the same in Windows 10. Instant highlighting for the first column of icons, and then for all subsequent columns it's inexplicably so sluggish that you won't even see any icons highlighted unless you leave your mouse on them for like a literal half second. Not that that's a functional issue, but it's visually annoying. Also AngelLoader, because it uses WinForms, is now also a colossal slug when you resize the window, so now I look bad too. Microsoft: ultra physics defying wizards who can bend the laws of space and time to such a degree that they can make a Ryzen 3950x run like a 386 THANKS MICROSOFT YOU JERKS

    Oh, the poll: I use Windows 10

  17. #17
    Member
    Registered: Oct 2018
    Location: Ukraine
    Quote Originally Posted by tolsen64 View Post
    What do you use to play fan missions? Do any fan mission loaders work on wine?
    Built-in FMSel.
    Sometimes there are problems with heavily customized main menus, but I'm not sure if that is wine-specific or Windows have the same problems. Besides that, everything is flawless.

  18. #18
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2004
    Location: CT, USA
    Quote Originally Posted by Dahenjo View Post
    Windows 9 and OS/2.
    OK, I'll come clean .. I haven't used OS/2 in about 25 yrs and Windows 10 is Windows 9. Currently I'm not running Linux, but recently was on a separate drive (Mint 19.3) with Thief running well but only using FMSel.

    I use Windows 10 Home, can easily postpone updates but usually don't and almost never have the bad issues, have none of the sluggishness Fen mentions, and TG & T2 run as well or better at 4K as on any former Windows version at whatever resolution. My only current problem is that AMD's drivers for my RX 5700 video card still aren't right so am using my previous still very decent RX 580 card. The games are under C:\Games on my fastest M.2 system drive, but I keep all FMs & other Thief related files (TFix, etc) on a fast separate SSD, so can quickly backup my games to the D: drive, wipe the M.2 and clean reinstall Windows via a bootable USB stick, then copy the game folders back over intact which run fine right from where I left off without reinstalling them or AngelLoader because all paths & locations are the same.

    My belief after running every Windows version since 3.1 is that any version will get screwed up over time, so my approach has long been to keep system and data on separate physical drives and do clean Windows reinstalls to keep things running optimally. And it's so much faster a process now than in the past, I use Chrome so in about 3 minutes after booting a clean install I can install it, sign in and have all my browser bookmarks & settings exactly where I left off. True, I do have to reinstall/reconfigure some apps, utilities, and various system drivers every time, but so much else is preserved online now and to me it's worth doing to avoid all or most of the issues seeming to plague other users.

  19. #19
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2012
    Location: Lucija, Slovenia
    Quote Originally Posted by Azaran View Post
    Windows 7. I'm holding onto it as long as possible
    Seconded, I have a 9 year old laptop and I don't plan to change it any time soon.

  20. #20
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Albertslund, Denmark
    Quote Originally Posted by FenPhoenix View Post
    The most annoying problem with Windows 10 is that they inexplicably made the UI run like a 386. Try it: In Windows 7, go to Windows Firewall, click "Inbound rules" or "Outbound rules", and look at the list. Observe the speed at which it draws. Then do the same in Windows 10. Then try dragging the edge of the window. That window, as well as any others using the built-in Win32 UI, are now literal tens of times slower on Windows 10 for some reason. Also, try putting a bunch of icons on the desktop in Windows 7 and moving your mouse around over them. Instant highlighting. Now do the same in Windows 10. Instant highlighting for the first column of icons, and then for all subsequent columns it's inexplicably so sluggish that you won't even see any icons highlighted unless you leave your mouse on them for like a literal half second. Not that that's a functional issue, but it's visually annoying. Also AngelLoader, because it uses WinForms, is now also a colossal slug when you resize the window, so now I look bad too. Microsoft: ultra physics defying wizards who can bend the laws of space and time to such a degree that they can make a Ryzen 3950x run like a 386 THANKS MICROSOFT YOU JERKS

    Oh, the poll: I use Windows 10
    Hmm, maybe Windows 10 just doesn't like your machine config.
    I have none of the problems you describe on my Windows 10 (1903) machine, everything you describe is smooth and immediate for me, no sluggishness at all.

  21. #21
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2005
    Location: Germany
    Quote Originally Posted by A.Stahl View Post
    Why not add Linux? Thief 1-2 works excellent with wine.
    Thank you that answers my question. I will switch to Linux soon and was wondering if Thief2 works on it.
    Windows is garbage. Most games run on Linux now.

  22. #22
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2011
    Location: Ferrol - Spain
    Windows 10 x64 Education (1909)

  23. #23
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2009
    Location: Aarhus, Denmark
    I'm playing Thief Gold and Thief 2 on Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon 64bit (which is using the base of Linux Ubuntu 18.04 LTS)

    I use a combination of Wine 3.0 and PlayOnLinux v 4.2.12 which utilizes wine, so that every installation is created on a separate virtual windows drive in the users /home folder.
    That way any alterations (like installation of vcrun or Microsoft Core Fonts for example) in one game doesn't affect the other. And if it farks up, then just delete the virtual drive and start anew.

    It appears that fog doesn't work when running wine, but other "translater" for windows files are available, like for instance Cross Over witch is proprietary software and not free (as in gratis).

    I use FMsel which works like a charm, I've tried New Darkloader at got it running, but decided not to leave FMsel.

    And I've set up Wine with Windows XPsp3 Compatibility.

    Thief 3 can be run with the above software and OS, but it makes an annoying oddity in the in-game menu. I've only tried T3 original, not FM's.

  24. #24
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2008
    Location: Deutschland/Germany
    AFAIK NewDark won't run under Windows ME, 98, 98SE or 95.

    I don't play Thief 3 at all.
    My FM campaigns Garrett's Young Years XTra, Reunion With Basso
    Want your upcoming FM translated in foreign languages?

  25. #25
    Member
    Registered: May 2018
    W10. Everything works like a breeze, even OldDark. Was on 8.1 for a while which gave me problems on OD, but otherwise no issues.
    Donīt see a reason to slow down my PC with the aging 7. Some other stuff runs much better on 10. In fact, 10 is just a newer version of 7 which was already a revamped Vista, so basically 10 is Vista.

    (just for fun I installed TDP on my old Samsung R50 XP notebook - no DDfix needed )

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