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Thread: Synthesizers (and other pro audio stuff)

  1. #176
    verbose douchebag
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Lyon, France
    There's definitely some magic going on in Moog circuitry somewhere.

  2. #177
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    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    This is what my imagined setup is shaping up to right now.
    It's an interesting thought process, trying to find the best mix that fits one's sensibility.

    Edit: This isn't what you'd call efficient. It's like two semi-standalone systems, so it's duplicating almost everything (osc., waveshaping, filters, envelopes, LFOs, sequencers, etc.). But I had an intuition that they could run in sync with each other and play off of or complement each other well, since they still have their own sound and approach. I was thinking the Mother 32 would be a kind of solid backbone structure and the Swarm some crazy layer on top of it with some edge. I was originally thinking about the Subharmonicon, but watching the videos of that, that's really unstable and it's hard to make it play nice if you're just improving on it, so it's definitely never going to fit with another system where you have to claw on to stability. But it did make me think two independent sequencers that worked off each other (e.g., triggering each other's reset or advance trigger) could have some cool polyrythmic effects while still keeping everything in a harmonic neighborhood not derailing the harmony like the Subharm. could.

    And for rhythm the Erica Sample Drum is like a mini Digitakt that just lets you gets a nice drum loop in to do the job, and you can cut it up and switch it around. Then there's a mixer and the Expert Sleepers Disting mk4 is a kind of multitool utility that just packs a lot of random utilities all together.

    Last edited by demagogue; 22nd Dec 2020 at 02:41.

  3. #178
    verbose douchebag
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Lyon, France
    Wow. Instruō just released 17 free modules for VCV Rack: https://library.vcvrack.com/?query=&...&tag=&license=

  4. #179
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    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Yeah I just saw that. Omri Cohen put out a video walking through them. I haven't watched it all yet, but I like what I hear & I like their style.

  5. #180
    Member
    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: The Plateaux Of Mirror
    Whoa, I haven't been to the VCV Rack site in awhile. There are a metric fuckton of modules now.

  6. #181
    Member
    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: Edmonton
    It's interesting that they didn't include most of their purely digital models like their looper or granular processor, which could actually probably be pretty close if not exact replicas. I wonder how their virtual analog modules compare to their actual analog ones.

  7. #182
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    Registered: Jul 2002
    Location: Edmonton
    Make Noise is coming out with a new box, made in collaboration with Alessandro Cortini (whom I'm not really familiar with, but I gather he's a big modular guy). It sounds nuts. At first I was like "nope" but after listening a few times I'm kinda tempted. Thinking about selling my Reface DX to put a down payment on a Strega, as they're calling it. I'm not always into stuff like this, but when it's Make Noise I give them the benefit of the doubt; everything they make is just fun to play with.



  8. #183
    verbose douchebag
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Lyon, France
    Alessandro Cortini is great.
    As well as being a long term fixture of NIN's live band, he also makes some pretty awesome music.
    I'm pretty tempted by the strega too, though I highly suspect I'd use it more as send effects than a synth.

  9. #184
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    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    I like the creative way it's using contact pads as controllers to make it more hands-on, and the calm and clinical way he's explaining it while absolutely insane sounds are coming out. XD

    I picked up the Plasmonic recently while it was on sale, mostly on the reputation of the creator (Brian Clevenger), who also made Absynth which I loved & what I learned to synth on. Its focus is on handing as much mod control to the user as possible, changing the waveform & effects on the fly, and physical modeling (naturalistic sound design), kind of the opposite philosophy of Absynth in a way (which was focused on the creator creating the waveform & long evolving modulation through the envelope, which sounded great but the user is just holding down a key and not participating much). So it lends itself to an aftertouch or MPE keyboard. It fits right in the zeitgeist with morphing alien physical modeling, like the soundtrack to Tenet, etc.

    Qubit Surface is another physical modeling module that interests me. The popular one is Rings, but it may be starting to get overused as the sound is becoming cliche, at least in its vanilla form; it's not used as a processor as much.

    Other things I was looking at was the abovementioned eonoise Quadrantid Swarm.

    I wanted a simple & interactive sample-based drum machine, just so I could put some cool beats behind what I'm doing without having some massive piece of gear for it like the Digitakt. So far what I like the most is the Erica Synths Sample Drum.

    I was also looking at the Vector recently.
    On the horizon, I'm still thinking about a Novation Summit for my main work station.
    There's just so much out there though... It's hard to focus.

  10. #185
    verbose douchebag
    Registered: Apr 2002
    Location: Lyon, France
    Quote Originally Posted by demagogue View Post
    The popular one is Rings, but it may be starting to get overused as the sound is becoming cliche, at least in its vanilla form; it's not used as a processor as much.
    Rings can be had for free in VCV rack anyways. I never got the cliché thing though. It either sounds good or not. I mean, piano and guitar are pretty ubiquitous, but how valuable they are within a piece of music isn't diminished relative to how many pieces they appear in. Novelty isn't an important indicator of quality.

  11. #186
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    Registered: Nov 2003
    Location: The Plateaux Of Mirror
    The Strega looks awesome, I just wish it were either a modular module or part of a full instrument. Desktop modules are such a massive waste of space and power cables. Also kind of holding off on this because PghModular is supposed to be releasing a new VRL and some other system this summer.
    Last edited by Jason Moyer; 30th Jan 2021 at 16:29.

  12. #187
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    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Quote Originally Posted by faetal View Post
    Rings can be had for free in VCV rack anyways. I never got the cliché thing though. It either sounds good or not. I mean, piano and guitar are pretty ubiquitous, but how valuable they are within a piece of music isn't diminished relative to how many pieces they appear in. Novelty isn't an important indicator of quality.
    Just really quick, I was repeating a point someone else was making that struck me too, but your (also correct) point makes me want to elaborate. The point should be that Rings is often being used in a really cliche way, where it's just dropped into a patch for some "organic flavor", almost like a wind chime. The whole problem is that it's so versatile, but you very often hear it used in the same way. So yeah, it's not because it's an overused sound per se; it's that there's not much thoughtfulness put in its use, which you could say the same about piano & guitar licks.

    But, that said, there is one arguable difference between synthesized music & acoustic music, I think, which is that synth types should be a little more responsible for the actual sound because half of the art itself is about synthesizing sounds. It doesn't have to be, and plenty of people make plenty of great tunes or patches with stock voices (cf. the DX7), but I think there is a special admiration for people that make their own voices that have an iconic sound, like some of the most iconic electronic bands like NIN, Boards of Canada, Squarepusher, etc. You can tell right off when a pad or a lead voice has their sound.

  13. #188
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    Registered: Feb 2001
    Location: Somewhere
    I am guilty of this, I have some vst's which have such great stock presets that I rarely push myself to create more unique sounds. But when I do it does make a difference.

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