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Thread: If Stephen Russell were on CAMEO, would you pay him for lines for your FM?

  1. #1
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2009

    If Stephen Russell were on CAMEO, would you pay him for lines for your FM?

    For those who don't know, CAMEO is a platform on which you can pay various celebrities for customized shoutout videos. The price is set by the performer and can vary wildly.

    Now imagine for a moment that our well known favorite Stephen Russell were to appear on CAMEO...

    Would you pay for custom Garrett lines for your FM?

  2. #2
    ZylonBane
    Registered: Sep 2000
    Location: ZylonBane
    "As long as you're here, you may as well leave a message at the beep."

  3. #3
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2006
    Location: On the tip of your tongue.
    Stephen has been asked in the past about doing voice lines for fan missions, and his answer was that he wouldn't be allowed to without going through Eidos's (presumably now Square Enix's) lawyers.

  4. #4
    New Member
    Registered: Oct 2016
    Quote Originally Posted by nicked View Post
    Stephen has been asked in the past about doing voice lines for fan missions, and his answer was that he wouldn't be allowed to without going through Eidos's (presumably now Square Enix's) lawyers.
    i've always wondered if this was actually the case - jeff baker was paid to do new voice lines for a morrowind mod and he happily obliged, and i'm certain other fan projects have done things like this. are videogame voice actors typically prohibited from doing work for mods? is it a union thing? did eidos specifically prevent stephen from doing it at the time? i'm not sure if there are any actual legal precedents for this

  5. #5
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    Registered: Feb 2021
    Quote Originally Posted by prengle View Post
    i've always wondered if this was actually the case - jeff baker was paid to do new voice lines for a morrowind mod and he happily obliged, and i'm certain other fan projects have done things like this. are videogame voice actors typically prohibited from doing work for mods? is it a union thing? did eidos specifically prevent stephen from doing it at the time? i'm not sure if there are any actual legal precedents for this
    Perhaps there was a clause in his contract saying that Eidos had exclusive rights to his voice as Garrett's for their projects?

  6. #6
    New Member
    Registered: Oct 2016
    considering eidos's history i wouldn't be surprised if they were that ballsy and snuck that into his contract, it just doesn't sound especially likely to me

  7. #7
    Desperately Dodgy Moderator
    Registered: Nov 2001
    Location: Bohn Museum
    Russell's response referenced above was posted here on TTLG at the time, so it really did happen. He politely refused to do custom Garrett lines for a fan work because he was prohibited from doing so.

  8. #8
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2020
    Location: Germany
    Quote Originally Posted by Yandros View Post
    Russell's response referenced above was posted here on TTLG at the time, so it really did happen. He politely refused to do custom Garrett lines for a fan work because he was prohibited from doing so.
    Wow seriously? I wonder why? I mean, what do the gain by prohibiting him from that?!

  9. #9
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2006
    Location: On the tip of your tongue.
    Control over an aspect of their IP. It's just business.

    As for why other voice actors have done it, perhaps they had more favourable contracts. Or perhaps Stephen Russell was just trying to politely say no without any awkwardness.

  10. #10
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    Registered: Jan 2004
    Location: Prince Edward Island, Canada
    Quote Originally Posted by Samantha1 View Post
    Wow seriously? I wonder why? I mean, what do the gain by prohibiting him from that?!
    Well, Eidos does own the character of Garrett but aside from that, I would assume his Actors Union would have something to say about non union work.

  11. #11
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    Quote Originally Posted by Samantha1 View Post
    Wow seriously? I wonder why? I mean, what do the gain by prohibiting him from that?!
    Just being petty. Remember what they did to the franchise?


  12. #12
    Member
    Registered: Feb 2021
    Quote Originally Posted by Azaran View Post
    Just being petty. Remember what they did to the franchise?
    This has me thinking: they may have said that he can't do Garrett, but what about other characters? He voiced Benny, didn't he? And what about commissioning him for an original character or a character mentioned in passing? I could see his baritone fitting a character like the Hammerite Smith-In-Exile.

  13. #13
    Desperately Dodgy Moderator
    Registered: Nov 2001
    Location: Bohn Museum
    You could probably commission him to voice a character if he has time, but it couldn't be a character in the Thief franchise canon, for the same reason as with Garrett - intellectual property rights.

  14. #14
    Member
    Registered: Jun 2009
    What if it was a total conversion?

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