[UPDATED] T2 Campaign: Lonmore v1.3 (November 12, 2021)

[szabikka]

Thanks for the FM Beltzer! It was a blast to play. Very well done!

[baeuchlein]

I have tried the DML fixes for performance problems on two machines with low-performance graphics hardware now. One is a machine with an Intel G43/G45 chipset with built-in graphics hardware, the other is a notebook using the Intel processor graphics of an old Core i3-2350M CPU. In both cases, the serious lags that occurred while looking into the streets below vanished almost completely when adding the DML's and restarting the (first) mission. Less serious lags, occurring because of a wide view over the rooftops, did persist, of course, since these have other reasons than performance-eating graphics for particles.

Good job, these DML's!

[Beltzer]

szabikka: Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.

baeuchlein: That sounds very good. They do a great work.

[Kubrick]

DML patch for those experiencing performance problems on the streets due to excessive particles:

this greatly reduces the number of particles used to shroud the streets below. it also enables the normal efficiency mode for these particles and the dust mote particles in some rooms in the mission, so they don't take any cpu time when not visible.

1. download from Dropbox
2. unzip the files into the FM's folder (e.g. c:\Thief2\FMs\Lonmore-v1_2\)

The mission has gone from literally impossible to play for me due to previous performance issues (framerate was so low that mantling utterly failed, the game thought I was letting go of space bar) to normal low framerate in some areas do to my computer being old, as I may get with big missions like this one. Absolute improvement, thank you so much. Will play now.

[vfig]

i have updated the lessparticles dmls. the download link is unchanged.

this update makes the particle density in the street shroud more consistent with the unpatched mission.

previously i had just set all the particle systems have the same (much lower) number of particles, as i just wanted to do something to get framerates up; but Beltzer had given each a number that correlated with the size of the brush for consistent density. my previous patch would therefore look a inconsistent between streets or at street corners. this updated version does a better job of respecting Beltzer's visual design while still performing well. (and i have to say i think the shrouded streets is a great idea!)

baeuchlein or fortuni or whoever is thinking of including them in FMDMLs: please feel free to do so if Beltzer is okay with it, but use the updated version. the dmls do not have a fingerprint in them, because i could not see a reasonable way to target the current version of the mission and not future versions that might have similar adjustments to the particle systems. (oh le corbeau, why could you not just let us use a sha hash of a .mis for fingerprinting...)

[fortuni]

Beltzer is happy with the dml's being included in the next FMDML package.

As for Fingerprinting IIRC Jax chooses one goal linked object and 5 other random objects from the mission as fingerprint targets, doing that should mean if there is a further update to the dml the fingerprint will still work. The only need to be change the fingerprint is if the author releases an update having changed the specified goal/related object or deleted one or more or of the random targets.

[Beltzer]

i have updated the lessparticles dmls. the download link is unchanged.

this update makes the particle density in the street shroud more consistent with the unpatched mission.

previously i had just set all the particle systems have the same (much lower) number of particles, as i just wanted to do something to get framerates up; but Beltzer had given each a number that correlated with the size of the brush for consistent density. my previous patch would therefore look a inconsistent between streets or at street corners. this updated version does a better job of respecting Beltzer's visual design while still performing well. (and i have to say i think the shrouded streets is a great idea!)

baeuchlein or fortuni or whoever is thinking of including them in FMDMLs: please feel free to do so if Beltzer is okay with it, but use the updated version. the dmls do not have a fingerprint in them, because i could not see a reasonable way to target the current version of the mission and not future versions that might have similar adjustments to the particle systems. (oh le corbeau, why could you not just let us use a sha hash of a .mis for fingerprinting...)

Thanks. I made a link to it in the first post.

[onetruekeeper]

I found a vault key at the south side then when I teleported to the north side that vault key disappeared ! I found a vault key at the north side but I cannot complete the optional goal of finding two vault keys. What happened?

[Beltzer]

I found a vault key at the south side then when I teleported to the north side that vault key disappeared ! I found a vault key at the north side but I cannot complete the optional goal of finding two vault keys. What happened?

teleported to the north side ? I guess you mean that you do not have it in part 2? That's the way it should be.
There is two vault keys in part two. Which one did you find?

[Sir Reginald]

Fantastic Mission Beltzer! totally agree with the eye candy and rooftop highways! Thank you for taking the time and effort for all of us to enjoy! Could I have a more direct hint for the 2 vault keys in Mission 2?

[Beltzer]

Fantastic Mission Beltzer! totally agree with the eye candy and rooftop highways! Thank you for taking the time and effort for all of us to enjoy! Could I have a more direct hint for the 2 vault keys in Mission 2?

Big thanks for the kind words. Glad you liked it
Court house, office. Mansion, office.

[onetruekeeper]

I found vault key #4 at the north side. Vault key #3 at that spooky house on the south side.
At the basement of that Mechanist lady's apartment there was the fireplace which turns into a portal using the Mechanist gear symbol. That's what teleported me to the north side for start of mission 2. Also, before I found vault key #4, I managed to get to the bank vault using that air shaft and window but there was a note at the vault that said everything was removed as evidence and the 4 sub vault doors cannot be frobbed.

[onetruekeeper]

I will return to that bank vault and test vault key #4 to see if it works...lol. I hope it does otherwise what would be the point of looking for these keys?
And I hope I can find the second vault key at the north side as Beltzer said there was.

[onetruekeeper]

Looks like vault key #4 works. Now to look for that other key and I am all done after getting 5000 loot.

[onetruekeeper]

Any hints as to where the other bank vault key is in mission 2 ?
I have key#4.

[Beltzer]

Any hints as to where the other bank vault key is in mission 2 ?
I have key#4.

As i wrote in a previous post yesterday, look in the court house office.

[vfig]

Thanks. I made a link to it in the first post.

Cool, thanks! Can you change the description of it from "DML's that makes the particle density in the street shroud more consistent" to "DML's that improves performance on low end hardware" since i think that communicates better what it is for to the people who need it.

[Beltzer]

Cool, thanks! Can you change the description of it from "DML's that makes the particle density in the street shroud more consistent" to "DML's that improves performance on low end hardware" since i think that communicates better what it is for to the people who need it.

Done

[Cardia]

Walkthrough

Nice! Thank you so much fortuni!

Patrik, the light edges are not sharped, what what build dlg settings are you using? I usually use these settings:

[Beltzer]

OMG. Maybe that's why i thought the lightning looked like shit. I never knew about those settings I feel like a big noob.
I'll try to change it and see how it looks.
I had these settings. Not good.

[Cardia]

Mission finished, had a nice experience with this one, interesting change of pace , had fun with the gameplay, exploring the different areas and the story, my favorite part the cursed house

Thank you !

[Beltzer]

Mission finished, had a nice experience with this one, interesting change of pace , had fun with the gameplay, exploring the different areas and the story, my favorite part the cursed house

Thank you !

Glad you liked it Pedro.

[joinusnow]

I'm stuck in Mission 2 searching for the Hammerite Gate key, which according to the walkthrough is on Priest Tricco's bookcase, in the same room where you place the evidence on his desk, if I'm not mistaken. I have searched high and low to no avail. Please help!

[vfig]

I'm stuck in Mission 2 searching for the Hammerite Gate key, which according to the walkthrough is on Priest Tricco's bookcase, in the same room where you place the evidence on his desk, if I'm not mistaken. I have searched high and low to no avail. Please help!

the key is not in Tricco's room, but it is close by. full answer: the key is on the bookcase in Segonax's room, just down the hall.

[joinusnow]

the key is not in Tricco's room, but it is close by. full answer: the key is on the bookcase in Segonax's room, just down the hall.

Thank you very much!