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Thread: Make your own AI-generated art

  1. #251
    The Necromancer
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    Some of my recent Dalle 3 experiments



    The detail here is insane





  2. #252
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Location
    Nice! The first one is very lost city-like.

  3. #253
    The Necromancer
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    I'm using my company's internal Dall-E 3 program, best generator I've ever used. The amount of terms that are blocked is insane though, e.g. 'sword', 'soldier', and for some bizarre reason 'gouda cheese' lol (they spit out the deceptive message 'the server is busy right now' instead of actually explaining why they blocked a prompt). Often if you mention an existing historical or mythical figure, it will redirect you to an internet search and say it's not able to generate images.

    Anyway, a few others






  4. #254
    The Necromancer
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com









  5. #255
    The Necromancer
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com







  6. #256
    The Necromancer
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com





  7. #257
    The Necromancer
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    Outer space. Moons, planets and exoplanets
















  8. #258
    Member
    Registered: Jan 2024
    Location: Egyptian Afterlife
    There is no denying there is a lot beauty in that AI content.

  9. #259
    Member
    Registered: Dec 2001
    Location: Marlboro, MA, USA
    Reminds me of No Man's Sky
    The Keep for Thief 1 and 2 FMs, Shadowdark for Thief 3 and Dark Mod FMs

  10. #260
    The Necromancer
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    We're branching out










  11. #261
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    That castle looks a lot like the mansion front I'm making for a Darkmod FM, with the two front towers and the windows laid out like that. I'd say that's a nice coincidence, but we're a forum built on the back of a game set in the medieval period, so not really... =V

  12. #262
    Member
    Registered: Apr 2001
    Location: Switzerland
    Gotta say, the castle (and especially the colour scheme) makes me think of... The Pawn? Guild of Thieves? One of the old Magnetic Scrolls text adventures. But that's probably also because I associate Thief much more with the early industrialised look of The Metal Age than with the steampunk medievalism of The Dark Project.

  13. #263
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Location
    The TTLG Forums tavern looks great!

    Also, anyone notice that IMGUR changed and it seems they've dumped the links you can grab for posting to forums like this one? Maybe I'm not doing something right though.

  14. #264
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    After you upload the image and it displays, right click it and select "open image in new tab", or whatever the equivalent is for your browser, and then you can get the url for the image itself to post it in a forum. As far as I know this works for every image hosting site.

  15. #265
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Location
    Maybe this will work now: nope. Only shows the link.

    Last edited by mxleader; 13th Feb 2024 at 14:11.

  16. #266
    The Necromancer
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    Quote Originally Posted by mxleader View Post
    Maybe this will work now: nope. Only shows the link.

    https://i.imgur.com/SAC6pYQ.jpg
    You need to choose the insert image option


  17. #267
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Location


    Sweet, thanks! IMGUR has gotten annoying now because it takes extra steps just to grab an image. Also, the section where you could just upload images is gone and everything is just a new post now. Oh well, it's free so I shouldn't complain.

  18. #268
    The Necromancer
    Registered: Aug 2009
    Location: thiefgold.com
    You can now use this generator to make short AI videos
    An example

    This IG page has some fascinating videos they made with it

  19. #269
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Location
    That's creepy yet exciting.

  20. #270
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    AI taking over people's imaginations isn't a good thing in the cosmic scheme of things. It's not just that we get a flood of mediocre AI-generated tripe. I think we're already getting that now. But beyond that, it's that humans get detached from handling their own imaginations, and there's a filter there that shouldn't be there.

  21. #271
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: The other Derry
    What if skills are the real filter, and using AI tools allows us to express our imagination more richly and more directly?
    Azaran's TTLG taverns were immediately familiar because I've imagined the same before, but I could never draw them myself.

  22. #272
    Chakat sex pillow
    Registered: Sep 2006
    Location: not here
    Nothing's really stopping you from asking ChatGPT to give you prompts for interesting images to feed into DALL-E 3 et al. And if it's not great at it today, it'll be better at it tomorrow thanks to us; humans are built into the improvement algorithm anyway.

  23. #273
    Member
    Registered: Aug 2002
    Location: Location
    Quote Originally Posted by demagogue View Post
    AI taking over people's imaginations isn't a good thing in the cosmic scheme of things. It's not just that we get a flood of mediocre AI-generated tripe. I think we're already getting that now. But beyond that, it's that humans get detached from handling their own imaginations, and there's a filter there that shouldn't be there.
    I agree but is there a huge difference between using text prompts to create AI art which requires writing skills and the ability to imagine and articulate directions? Also, people have been coding machines to make video games for decades now so there are some similarities. At the same time a human artist can more easily create what is in their head by physically doing the work. AI art generators are literally just fun and games at this point.

  24. #274
    Member
    Registered: Sep 2001
    Location: The other Derry
    I think the average person can create the imagery in their head more easily using these tools. If you're not a well practiced artist, drawing and painting what's in your head is hard.

  25. #275
    Moderator
    Registered: Jan 2003
    Location: NeoTokyo
    Quote Originally Posted by heywood View Post
    I think the average person can create the imagery in their head more easily using these tools.
    Yes, this is actually part of my point, though I may be trying to be too subtle with this, and I don't know how well this stands up to scrutiny. But I think there's a fine line between translating what's in your head on to the page and the generation of the idea in your head. I know this for music, but I think it applies to visual arts as well, also dance, martial arts, a lot of things...

    But to stick with music, when you learn to play an instrument, you know, you're doing scales, chords, arpeggios, runs, or whatever, and you're getting the feel of the instrument in your hands, where there's this coordination between your body, the instrument, and the sound, and that's where the ideas come from. Like your musical mind and fingers are guiding you create inspired music before your thinking mind can even catch up to understand where it's coming from. I have an idea there's a similar process when you're learning to paint or draw, with the feeling of the brush or the pen in your hands, and the ways it wants to move for art to come out.

    That's what AI is taking away. Now it's a cognitive exercise where you build this image in your head divorced from the process... Well, let me step back. I think it's a new art with its own process. I think there's an art to understanding how prompts work, knowing how to iterate on parts to build up an image piece by piece, and even building up the model -- though I think a lot of people are going to just take what's already out there.

    So what I'd say is that I recognize it as its own legitimate art, and power to the people that are thinking about how to use the process in inspired ways. But I think something is being lost when people lose the embodied part of most arts, the feel of the pen or the guitar in your hands, and the coordination between mind, body, and art/sound that emerges from deep recesses of your mind that even you didn't know you had in you until it comes out. If that feel is the source of a lot of what is inspired about art, then AI would actually be generating the important part, and there's not much coming from the person anymore. I'm fine with AI as this new art form, but I wouldn't want to see it undermining that, if that's what it's doing.

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    Edit: Also it reminds me of a common thing I hear in jazz... I think Brad Mehldau said it in his interview with Rick Beato just yesterday, and Adam & Peter say it all the time on their You'll Hear It jazz podcast, but I think even a few days ago. Practice is supposed to be too hard! You're not making progress unless you're trying something that is beyond your ability, and practice it until you get it. When the things you're practicing start becoming easy, that's a signal that you need to take the next step into techniques that you can't do yet. Something being too hard is your map to the direction you need to go. AI is also taking that away, so art isn't a journey anymore. That would be a particularly bad loss.
    Last edited by demagogue; 14th Feb 2024 at 14:16.

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