Reply With QuoteIt wasn't sunk, it was upgraded to a submarine with extremely limited mobility.
Wow, there's a leaked video of the actual moment of the "accident" on the ship!
It wasn't sunk, it was upgraded to a submarine with extremely limited mobility.
Igor Osipov, the Admiral of Russia's Black Sea fleet, has reportedly been arrested.
He has failed Darth Puter.....
Darth Puter blaming underlings for his own mistakes. Who saw that coming?
You know you fucked up if it actually gets David Gilmour to work on new music.
the songs pretty meh, but you cant deny that Gilmour tone.
This may be the weirdest thing I've heard in a while.
https://www.businessinsider.com/sunk...rd-2022-4?op=1
According to sources: Russians thought the Moskva would be protected because it was carrying a fragment of the True Cross.
It's a measure of how this war is stupid and a relic from the russian imperial past.
Lenin would be ashemed of this kind of neo-imperial Russia.
But he would have been happy to have seen Germany's financial suppport, just like the old days.
I have been banned for a third time from facebook for things I have have said to Russian propagandists. It's not much but it takes things away I would have posted to family. It's a month each time now. I have to speak truth anyway but I do still want to post pictures and keep my account for keeping in touch. I feel I should be there. Old men should fight wars. They have the least to lose and they know what to stand for now. There was a Brit who was captured recently for fighting for Ukraine. Of course the Russians paraded him like a prize. I understand him. Some things are worth fighting for. But here I am not doing it. In my book he is a hero. He risked everything. Here in the west that is a lot. Too much for me to give up apparently. I feel like a coward. Ukraine is standing against authoritarianism and I'm not there though it is a thing I feel deeply about. I'm ashamed but know I won't go. Once again I will watch. Some part of me dies. I feel for that young man. He did what his soul told him he must.
Hate to admit it, but the Finns seem much better prepared than we are:
https://www.news.com.au/world/europe...5be297762c28a5
So, what do people think?If Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine was for reunification and a grand show of the Russian Federation’s military might, then the country’s annual Victory Day was likely billed as the date in which the Kremlin would boast about its victory.
Just under three weeks away, the May 9 celebrations likely loom in the minds of the nation’s President and his officials.
The reality is less rosy.
The date will mark 75 days of fighting since the invasion began on February 24. It also represents an internationally condemned war that’s seen Russia hit with wide-ranging sanctions, a crushed economy and the death of an estimated 20,000 Russian troops.
In Russia, May 9 is also known as Victory Day. The country celebrates the surrender of Nazi Germany in 1945 and the signing of the German Instrument of Surrender. While the signing officially took place on the evening of May 8 in Berlin, it occurred after midnight in Moscow.
However this year, the date holds more weight.
According to the Kyiv Independent, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reports Russian troops have been told the “war must end by May 9”.
Russia tries some dirty fighting, and kamikazees thousands more of it's guys to try and swiftly topple the Ukrainians?
Or they drop the mother of all bombs on Kyiv and declare "victory" that way?
Or they just lie about it and have their parade pretending they already won?
Details are still emerging but someone poured gasoline through the mail slot of the house where the pastor of a local Ukrainian church and his family live. They had just held a fund raiser this past weekend. Whether it was some random mad man or someone exporting the war to Canada, is not yet known. Thankfully the arson was discovered as it was being committed and the family was able to escape with minor injuries although a few moments longer and things would have been much worse.
Bomb on Azovstal and parade in Mariupol like Berlin (LOL, there's no *REAL* NAZI in Ukraine, and they got destroyed a city they did come to "protect" from some people less nazi than russian Wagner Group).Originally Posted by Cipheron
If Russia had working MOABs, I think they would have used them already. They haven't shown the slightest hesitation in committing war crimes otherwise. But many other terrible weapons, definitely.
Russia doesn't need to kamikaze their own guys right now -- that's what the Wagner Group and thousands of cheap mercenaries from Syria and other places are for, used mostly as infantry cannon fodder without any other support.
Also, they have been lying from the beginning and pretending everything's is fine, basically, so whatever happens outside of an attack on Russian territory big enough that they can't sweep under the rug, they will just pretend that they are winning. The thing is, though... there's officially no war, so there can officially be no victory. I watched a portion of a Russian state TV program where they talked about the unfortunate accident of the Moskva sinking due to a combination of an accident and stormy weather and the need to avenge the accident and all the sailors, who are all alive and well and were evacuated without any problems, except for the sinking of the ship, of course, which is a terrible.... accident... and must not be forgiven.
Anyway, I recently chanced upon a video where an Australian economic analyst takes a stab looking at the costs of waging war in Ukraine:
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Problem is: russians of course know it's ALL A LIE, but are they "willingly complicit" and "willingly silent" (I can't find the exact english words, here in Italy we use dedicated terms related to the particular social context of mafia-driven regions) about this?
The REAL problem after Putin's death is that "willingly".
Because here in Italy the mafia problem is unsolvable 'cause of people and to me Russia seems a big Sicily with nukes.
Moskva sinking due to a combination of an accident and stormy weather and the need to avenge the accident and all the sailors, who are all alive and well and were evacuated without any problems, except for the sinking of the ship, of course, which is a terrible.... accident... and must not be forgiven.
Moskva+2 nuclear wearheads possibly present on the ship = 1 billion $ sunken for NOTHING, just for the show (there's no war there.....)
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I hope it all ends soon. innocent people get hurt.
First post on TTLG in this thread? Very normal.
Not-innocent people NEVER get hurt, unless Hammer of Dawn mode
Last edited by lowenz; 21st Apr 2022 at 19:01.
Jesus. The Russians have put out some propaganda claiming they are photos of a haul from a foiled Ukrainian Nazi terrorist plot.
Buckle up. This gets GOOD.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...lin-journalist
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...in-journalist/
1) First they were caught with a BRIGHT RED WWII Nazi flag t-shirt. Exactly what all Neo-Nazis wear when they're infiltrating another nation to carry out an assassination. It also looks creased like it would if it was never worn.
2) there's a wig for disguise. but it's a fucking shade of green, like you'd get in a dollar-store party shop. He would have looked very inconspicuous in his bright red swastika t-shirt and long greenish blonde hair.
3) They had passports, but the signatures were unclear. LITERALLY "unclear". As in they were told to make the signatures unclear but wrote "Unclear".
4) They had 3 sims. EXCEPT THEY ACCIDENTALLY GOT THREE PACKS FROM THE SIMS 3 video game, didn't they? Instead of sim cards.
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It's not the passports, it's the book with a dedication in it that was signed by "Signature Illegible". And yes, that's literally what's written there.
From Russian point of view, of course it's only natural that terrorists infiltrating another country would pick a journalist as their target. I wouldn't be surprised if Russia said next that the terrorists were also trying to kill a human rights activist, poison a critic of the government, and jail opposition leaders for decades on trumped-up charges.
Last edited by Starker; 26th Apr 2022 at 03:40.
Is this "malicious compliance"? This really smells of some guys effing around rather than simple incompetence. I know, I know, never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence, but come on, they had to have known.
I don't think the Russian security apparatus appreciates people getting cheeky like that. Seems more likely that someone was copying the text literally word for word, perhaps even without knowing what it was for or that it was going to be shown on television.
Another symptom of that same issue plaguing their army then?
Lack of initiative, underlings kept in the dark about what's going on, the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, and so on.
So maybe people have put that preposterous load of stuff together and nobody dared question it even if they thought something was off, because to do so would be to question the orders, and that's not on in Russia.
It actually makes you wonder about the people on the higher ranks who actually ordered this made. For example if some colonel ordered that put together and then when it came back and wasn't what was expected, maybe even he was too scared to turn around and correct it, because of the perceived failure.
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