Russia invades Ukraine

[Silentor]

Moderators, do you have such a button that would reset the last 20 years, but with the preservation of memory, how can everything break through if we are let everything take its course.
Interesting, would be drawn conclusions in terms of normalizing geopolitics? That you didn't win the Cold War. That schizoid hawks like Brzezinski and Madeleine Albright should have been flushed down the toilet.

There would be a competent implementation of the slogan "East and West are one" on the Ukrainian side. Not parasitizing all "dogs" with its "tail".
Yes, Ukrainian rock, as a phenomenon, is the best popularization of culture.

It would be good for us to work competently in a country that is of strategic interest to us (and not support all sorts of scoundrels like Medvedchuk).


No, as it happens, your country is described in our comics as Siberia, where the mafia lives, selling nuclear warheads. But comics are sacred to us.

No, we will burn through our fictional idea of Ukraine. So that we don't have to be like some fictional Muscovites.

No, we have "the crunch of a French loaf", and you Orthodox people, cheerfully die for our "Louis Vuitton".

[Starker]

Russia continues terror attacks on Ukrainian cities:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3wxe5g4z9yo

A Russian missile attack on the central Ukrainian city of Kryvyi Rih has killed at least 18 people and left dozens wounded, Ukrainian officials have said.

Nine of the dead were children, said President Volodymyr Zelensky, who grew up in Kryvyi Rih. Local officials said a ballistic missile had hit a residential area.

Images showed at least one victim lying in a playground, while a video showed a large section of a 10-storey block of flats destroyed and victims lying on the road.

Russia's defence ministry later claimed a "high-precision missile strike" had targeted a meeting of "unit commanders and Western instructors" in a restaurant, and that up to 85 were killed. It provided no evidence.

Ukraine's military responded by saying that Russia was spreading false information to try to "cover up its cynical crime". It said Moscow had fired an Iskander-M ballistic missile with a cluster warhead to maximise casualties.
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Russia keeps bombing civilian targets, including apartment buildings, children's hospitals and maternity wards. Despite claiming that this war is to "protect" Russian-speakers, Russians are conducting a human safari in Kherson, a Russian-speaking city full of Russian-speakers. They are using drones to drop bombs on random civilian cars, fire trucks, ambulances... And they are not even trying to hide it -- videos of the murders along with boasts and mockery are posted on Russian Telegram channels by Russian milbloggers. They are proud of it.

[Starker]

Russian lies about their war crime easily unravel:

[lowenz]

and not support all sorts of scoundrels like Medvedchuk

They have *real* power (until Putin wants him dead but in this specific case it's highly improbable due the personal ties), you haven't. Ask yourself why apart from "West Russophobia against the Greatness of Motherussia" trump (pun intended) card or some Orthodoxy escatological and mystical delirium like in Iran.

[lowenz]

Anyway nobody is buying your Jew hate there Silentor

Well, jews has been confined in Ukraine during the tsar times (you know, russian "holy ground" bullshit) and antisemitism (about the jews) is absolutely endemic in Russia.

https://www.marxists.org/history/int...ts/xx/jews.htm

There are two nations in every modern nation, we shall say to all the National-Socialists. There are two national cultures in every national culture. There is the Great-Russian culture of Purishkevich, Guchkov and Struve—but there is also the Great-Russian culture characterised by the names of Chernishevsky and Plekhanov. There are just the same two cultures in Ukraindom as there are in Germany, France, England, Jewry, etc. If the majority of the Ukrainian workers are under the influence of Great-Russian culture, we know for certain that, side by side with the ideas of Great-Russian priestly and bourgeois culture, there are also at work the ideas of Great-Russian democracy and social-democracy. Fighting against the first kind of “culture,” the Ukrainian Marxist will always distinguish it from the second culture and say to his fellow-workers: “Every opportunity of contact with the Great-Russian class-conscious worker, with his literature, with his outlook, must be seized upon with all energy, utilised, consolidated. For this is required by the vital interests of both the Ukrainian and the Russian workers’ movement.”

If the Ukrainian Marxist allows himself to be stampeded by quite legitimate and natural hatred of the Great-Russian oppressors into transferring even a tiny part of that hatred—even in the form of estrangement—to the proletarian culture and proletarian cause of the Great-Russian workers, that Marxist will slip down by that very act into the morass of bourgeois nationalism. And similarly the Great-Russian Marxist will slip into the morass of not merely bourgeois but Black Hundred nationalism, if he forgets even for a moment the demand for full equality of the Ukrainians, or their right to set up an independent State.

Lenin, 1913.

Because I'm "russophobic" like Lenin.

[Starker]

Examples of the kind of free speech in Russia that the Russia-supporting free speech absolutists would like to bring to the West:

[lowenz]

Not a fan of Nixon and his convictions (oh, the joke), but about the harsh reality to deal with Russia (and a good bunch of russian people)

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZHAMqpgil-I

The problem IS about *a part* of the russian culture, just like here in Italy the mafia problem is about *a part* of italian culture.
Yes, there's a cultural aspect we can't avoid anymore because of some prententious "respect" (not even due by default)

And I'm not posing, it's a real problem that must be addressed because liber(al)ism can't address nothing at "high levels" as we've seen, better, it can work AGAINST (more efficiency -> more power -> more abuse of power as Khrushchev grand daughter said in an interview)

[lowenz]

An Interview with Nina Khrushcheva on Russian Foreign Policy

https://logosjournal.com/between-the...oreign-policy/

I joke sometimes that the problems arise from Russia’s desire not to sit at a children’s table next to the toilet, where it invariably ends up. And also, Putin is a “hobby historian.” He likes culture, in awe of cultural figures and cultural thought. I was a witness to it myself in Moscow in his early presidency when he was starstruck by sitting next to the dissident musician Mstislav Rostropovch. He saw Alexander Solzhenitsyn as his historical mentor, the true Russian spirit. In many ways, Russia was an empire and therefore after the collapse of the USSR was lacking its own nationalist identity, unlike other republics that fell off. So Putin listened to those like Solzhenitsyn, who offered panslavic Eurasianism as a uniting concept. Russia is a big and complex country with a complex history and culture so it is hard to distinguish what comes first – the imperial drive and the desire to be recognized and respected or a quest for power. That too is an important, and imperial, feature.
In Russia power is barely rotatable. If the “czar” comes in, it is for life. Putin’s actions in Ukraine are also driven by necessity to stay in power, because like many leaders he thinks that the first two quests, being imperial and being respected, would perish if it were not for him. In a way, he created a system of governance – with poisonings, arrests of opponents and so on – that is not going to look kindly on him leaving, so he needs to stay. And generally, leaving or wanting to leave power in Russia is a dangerous endeavor – Khrushchev was ousted in 1964 because he wanted to have only two terms of leadership, rotate the party apparatchiks and so on.

Thanks "anticommunists" to get the imperial ambitions back.

[Starker]

Russian terrorists kill 34 people with cluster munitions on a religious holiday:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...d-ukraine-sumy

At least 34 people have been killed and more than 100 injured in a Russian ballistic missile strike in the Ukrainian city of Sumy as people were going to church for Palm Sunday, in the worst attack on civilians this year.

Two missiles landed in the crowded city centre on Sunday morning. One hit a trolley bus full of passengers. Footage from the scene showed bodies lying in the street, burning cars, and rescuers carrying bloodied survivors. Two of the dead were children.
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[Tomi]

For the first time ever, I gave Trump a cautious nod of approval when I saw the following headline today:

Donald Trump Reacts To Deadly Russian Missile Strike: 'They Made A Mistake'

I foolishly thought that Trump had suddenly grown a pair and said something like "they made a mistake that they're going to regret", but of course he was just defending his dictator pal and his barbarians again. Yeah sure, it was just an unfortunate mistake, eh? Fuck you Trump and all of you who voted for the bastard.

[lowenz]

For the first time ever, I gave Trump a cautious nod of approval when I saw the following headline today:

Donald Trump Reacts To Deadly Russian Missile Strike: 'They Made A Mistake'

I foolishly thought that Trump had suddenly grown a pair and said something like "they made a mistake that they're going to regret", but of course he was just defending his dictator pal and his barbarians again. Yeah sure, it was just an unfortunate mistake, eh? Fuck you Trump and all of you who voted for the bastard.

Exactly.

[demagogue]

Here's a quote from Krasnov's press conference an hour or so ago.

Trump: "He [Zelenskyy] is always looking to purchase missiles. Listen, when you start a war, you gotta know you can win a war. You don't start a war against somebody that's 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles."

Nobody shut this bs down better than Jasmine Crockett:
(It's a short video, but the money quote is at :52 into the video.)

[lowenz]

Trump will always lie, and so his supporters. Of course Zelensky did not start the war but there's no more thuth - you got to start from THIS postulate, you can't talk about "truth" when you're dealing with Trump and his electorate - so everybody can say it was Zelensky the cause.

It's why it's impossible to attack Trump and his supporters, they simply refuse to admit the truth and they're always do because....it's legal to lie. So, they just lie and lie and lie until you give up. It's just the classic children tactics, because we're talking about widespread narcissism.
Thanks freedom of expression.