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  1. #676
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    Well of course, when people went against Netanyahu's plans he retaliated and started a war to stay a float, I wonder how long will be before he's thrown out of the government.

  2. #677
    Quote Originally Posted by Starker View Post
    Just as Hamas doesn't care about popularity inside Gaza, as they can enforce their rule at the point of a gun, they sure as hell don't care about appeasing Western populaces either.
    Perhaps not, but do you not think they feel emboldened by the anti-Israel/anti-Zionist sentiment that's apparent world wide?

    It's more than that though. You say Hamas committed an atrocity but it certainly seems to be ignored/forgotten by those campus protestors. Why are they calling for only Israel to stop, and not also for Hamas to release the hostages/surrender. You say Hamas doesn't care, but it's supporters in Iran and Qatar might.

  3. #678
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    Do you think universities have much sway over what Hamas does? Protesting a university to get them to divest from the military-industrial complex is one thing, protesting a university to get them to influence Hamas's decision making is something completely different.

    But yes, this has been one of the demands I've seen in other protests.

  4. #679
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    Also, while people are worried about antisemitism, motives of the students, etc, I've not seen nearly any concern about anti-arab anti-muslim sentiment. At one of the protests, the protestors were attacked by people playing the national anthem of Israel and carrying Israeli flags while calling for a second Nakba: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_U...otester_attack

  5. #680
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subjective Effect View Post
    SD - the weird thing to me about Iran is I have never encountered such a government/people split. I've met a lot of Iranians and they are almost always super chilled and never in support of the Iranian regime nor especially sympathetic to Palestinian "resistance". It's a real contrast to people from a lot of other ME countries or even Pakistan, Indonesia or Malaysia, who (in my experience). I guess they know what it's like to live under nutjobs.
    I believe the Ayatollah theocracy draws most of its support from the poor and uneducated (basically the same types who landed us with Brexit, Trump etc) and most Iranians you're likely to encounter will be the educated Westernised middle class, and some will even be refugees or dissidents. I remember reading the results of one of those periodic attitude surveys, and the level of antisemitism in Iran was actually quite a bit lower than in a lot of other countries in the Middle East.

    The Persians are of course an ancient people with a history as rich and storied as that of the Judeans, with whom they have crossed paths many times over the millennia; they know that the Jews are who they say they are, so they're less likely to be taken in by Palestinian conspiracy theories. I think there is also some lingering resentment of the native Persian culture being sidelined by Islam, which is of course foreign to both Persia and Judea. Though some Zoroastrians bravely soldier on in Iran, and the country as a whole generally resisted Arabisation, even while it succumbed to Islamisation.

    As it happens, my brother-in-law is an Iranian nuclear engineer, which is not the setup for a joke, but an amusing fact.
    Last edited by SD; 18th Jun 2024 at 10:30.

  6. #681
    Quote Originally Posted by Starker View Post
    Also, while people are worried about antisemitism, motives of the students, etc, I've not seen nearly any concern about anti-arab anti-muslim sentiment.
    Is that because it's fairly rare? And it comes largely from the Far Right, not from Zionists, Jews, Israelis or their other supporters.

    Quote Originally Posted by SD View Post
    As it happens, my brother-in-law is an Iranian nuclear engineer, which is not the setup for a joke, but an amusing fact.
    I think it's both!

  7. #682
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    Sure, it's rare, but as you could see in the video and from what's known currently, it's the protestors who are the targets of violence while the protests are overwhelmingly peaceful.

    And in one case the far right even joined forces with the pro-Israel counterprotestors to assault the protestors: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ests-far-right

  8. #683
    Idiots will be idiots. Hopefully that type of thing doesn't spread.

    In the meantime it looks like there's no end to the war in sight and a new front with Lebanese rebels may even open up.

    What an insane moment in history we are living though.

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