Well of course, when people went against Netanyahu's plans he retaliated and started a war to stay a float, I wonder how long will be before he's thrown out of the government.
Perhaps not, but do you not think they feel emboldened by the anti-Israel/anti-Zionist sentiment that's apparent world wide?Originally Posted by Starker
It's more than that though. You say Hamas committed an atrocity but it certainly seems to be ignored/forgotten by those campus protestors. Why are they calling for only Israel to stop, and not also for Hamas to release the hostages/surrender. You say Hamas doesn't care, but it's supporters in Iran and Qatar might.
Do you think universities have much sway over what Hamas does? Protesting a university to get them to divest from the military-industrial complex is one thing, protesting a university to get them to influence Hamas's decision making is something completely different.
But yes, this has been one of the demands I've seen in other protests.
Also, while people are worried about antisemitism, motives of the students, etc, I've not seen nearly any concern about anti-arab anti-muslim sentiment. At one of the protests, the protestors were attacked by people playing the national anthem of Israel and carrying Israeli flags while calling for a second Nakba: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_U...otester_attack
I believe the Ayatollah theocracy draws most of its support from the poor and uneducated (basically the same types who landed us with Brexit, Trump etc) and most Iranians you're likely to encounter will be the educated Westernised middle class, and some will even be refugees or dissidents. I remember reading the results of one of those periodic attitude surveys, and the level of antisemitism in Iran was actually quite a bit lower than in a lot of other countries in the Middle East.
The Persians are of course an ancient people with a history as rich and storied as that of the Judeans, with whom they have crossed paths many times over the millennia; they know that the Jews are who they say they are, so they're less likely to be taken in by Palestinian conspiracy theories. I think there is also some lingering resentment of the native Persian culture being sidelined by Islam, which is of course foreign to both Persia and Judea. Though some Zoroastrians bravely soldier on in Iran, and the country as a whole generally resisted Arabisation, even while it succumbed to Islamisation.
As it happens, my brother-in-law is an Iranian nuclear engineer, which is not the setup for a joke, but an amusing fact.
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Is that because it's fairly rare? And it comes largely from the Far Right, not from Zionists, Jews, Israelis or their other supporters.
I think it's both!
Sure, it's rare, but as you could see in the video and from what's known currently, it's the protestors who are the targets of violence while the protests are overwhelmingly peaceful.
And in one case the far right even joined forces with the pro-Israel counterprotestors to assault the protestors: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ests-far-right
Idiots will be idiots. Hopefully that type of thing doesn't spread.
In the meantime it looks like there's no end to the war in sight and a new front with Lebanese rebels may even open up.
What an insane moment in history we are living though.
How conservatives learned to stop worrying and love crime:
What ever keeps the under-educated in a state of fear makes selling them the Strong Man candidate all the easier.
Suspected pro-Palestine activist dropped a smoke bomb at one of our local public libraries, forcing security to evacuate the building
That'll will show Israel eh?
Must have been one of the "Hamas children".
Seriously?
First off, you said "suspected" pro Pally protestor, so it's not actually known.
Secondly, the point of these protests is to highlight the issues and also to express discontent at the universities' investments in companies that ultimately benefit the Israeli war machine. So yeah.
This time, on some more (not) news: how Ronald Reagan, the actor, ruined the US:
As I'm already fairly familial with Reagan and his aims to turn the US into a Robocop parody, there wasn't much new information for me, but it's a fairly concise, if a bit barebones "greatest hits" compilation of how Reagan managed to start redistributing money from the poor and the middle class to the wealthy and ultrawealthy, how he plunged the country into massive debt, how he ignored and mishandled a massive health epidemic... y'know, standard Republican stuff.
Survivor and its spawn, reality TV, share the blame.
A photograph collection by Andrea Wenglowskyj made the rounds yesterday. It's of a Ukrainian scout camp called Novyi Sokil in Western New York, just an hour from where I grew up. It's just coming up on its 75th anniversary.
https://www.andreawenglowskyj.com/sokil-1
A window falls out of Russia's top economist... oh, wait...
Welcome to the Russian world, where windows are incompatible with life.https://www.newsweek.com/top-russian...window-1929398
Valentina Bondarenko, a top Russian economist, has died at the age of 82 after falling out of her apartment window in Moscow, Russian state-run media reported on Tuesday.
Bondarenko, a leading research fellow at the Institute of Economics of the Russian Academy of Sciences in Moscow, fell out of her apartment window on Monday evening, emergency services told news agency Tass.
"She fell out of the window of her apartment, unfortunately, it was not possible to save her, the injuries she received were incompatible with life," the source said.
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I doubt there are many or any people here who remember My Lai but it fundamentally changed my perception of the US. I believe that probably every country in the world has committed atrocities at one time or another but this was very shocking to me at the time, still young and naive but not yet cynical. That came later.A former US officer who was the only person to be convicted in connection with the My Lai massacre during the Vietnam War has died, according to reports.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9wv9l7pe9po
And just knowing a tiny part of the truth is a fatal health condition.
Fake electors being put on the paperwork to try and get radical leftist Cornel West onto the presidential ballot. Turns out, it's Republicans pushing it, because they want him to split the liberal vote.
https://apnews.com/article/ballot-de...2e63edadf14398
Some random woman who's name was used used to work forRepublicans and their allies have worked to get West on the ballot in Arizona, Wisconsin, Virginia, North Carolina, Nebraska, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Maine.
Their hope is West will serve as a spoiler candidate, boosting former President Donald Trump’s chance of winning in November by siphoning liberal support away from the Democratic nominee, Vice President Kamala Harris, in battleground states that could be decided by just a few thousand votes.
Anda signature gathering contractor called Wells Marketing, a mysterious Missouri limited liability company, is leading the effort to get West on the ballot in Arizona. The company did not respond to a message seeking comment at a phone number listed for it.
So her employer basically harvested the name of someone who quit the company, because they didn't like what the company was doing. The fact that they can't find willing people to put their name on this and have to basically steal identities is suss as hell.She and her husband were both enthusiastic supporters of Bernie Sanders and were drawn to West’s progressive message earlier this year. They later took jobs gathering petition signatures to get an initiative on the ballot that would raise the wages of tipped workers. They soured on West’s candidacy when they read that Republican-aligned operatives were working to get him on the ballot to play spoiler.
... the article goes on to list almost two decades of fraudulent signature-gathering and petition work done by this guy with his front groups. Classic dirty-tactics operative:The company is closely affiliated with Mark Jacoby — a brother-in-law of a Wells Marketing official, according to social media posts — who was also listed on state documents as the employer of one signature gatherer working to get West on the ballot in the state.
Jacoby is a Republican-aligned operative from California with a longstanding reputation for using deceptive tactics. He was convicted in 2009 of voter registration fraud, court records show.
Other ones are unusual too:He was accused in 2008 of tricking voters into registering with the California Republican Party by telling them they were signing an initiative to strengthen penalties for child molesters, the Los Angeles Times reported.
So she's a MAGA ax murderer. It's unclear if she agreed to this or they just harvested her details from some database she was on however.One of them, Elizabeth Rothgeb, pleaded guilty to manslaughter after accepting a plea deal stemming from the killing of her then-husband with an ax in 1998. She spent 10 years in prison and was released on Christmas Eve 2010, according to online records from the state prison system.
Rothgeb, who could not be reached for comment, is a registered Republican, as are two other electors for West, voting records show. Two additional electors listed in the state filings are not registered to vote at the addresses provided for them, records show.
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If you hand out wads of dark money to unscrupulous people there will be fraud. In North Carolina, state officials tried contacting a sample of 250 people who signed Cornel West's petition. They were only able to contact 49 out of the 250, and 18 of the 49 said they hadn't signed. Another thing that was fishy about it was the majority of signatories were from Republican-heavy counties, not the cities and university areas you'd expect West's support to come from. So the state board of elections disqualified him. Then a Republican federal judge ordered West on the ballot anyway. He's unlikely to affect the race there unless the margin is very, very close. But every vote counts, so if you've got money burning a hole in your pocket...
Belgian Olympian who got sick after swim in Seine River says virus caused her illness, not E. coli
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/claire-...us-not-e-coli/
Bacteria levels in the long-polluted river have been in flux during the Games, causing test swims ahead of the triathlon events to be canceled and the men's triathlon to be delayed by a day. Organizers had said that water quality tests done the day of the individual triathlon races showed "very good" levels of fecal bacteria E. coli and enterococci.
Events ON the Seine? Splendid.
Events IN the Seine? WTF were you thinking?
Quoted as it was, never touched the thing (e coli).
You might say that the organisers were in-seine.
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