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Thread: What are you drinking right now?

  1. #1
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    What are you drinking right now?

    Let's talk about amber ales, barleywines, brown ales, IPA's, porters, stouts and all the new post-modern hipster trash canned in cans with wallpaper labels.

    I started drinking microbrew amber, porter, stout, brown, red and barleywine ales in the 1990's when micro-beers started showing up in grocery stores and pubs in the US. I've even brewed some which took a few years to age to a drinkable state. This one pictured I picked up a couple of months ago hidden on a shelf at a local beer shop that has lots of cool hard to find drinkables. I have a couple of whisky barrel aged ales from the UK that are like a barleywine, and very good, but are not, so I don't age those beyond what they've already been aged.

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    I like Chimay. I hear they are undergoing a supply problem of not enough Trappist monks to make it and who can blame them? Who the fuck wants to forgo an actual life in favor of religious bullshit? I also like Samuel Adams ale. But Yuengling is my favorite. It's best if aged for five years at room temp and then dumped in a kiddy pool of ice in the middle of summer. But who does that on purpose? Mostly I drink wine. Cheap Sunset Blush or Lambrusco. Sometimes Moscow Mules or spiced rum or Scotch or just Jack and coke. There is a drink called the Travis McGee made with Boodles gin and vermouth and sherry which tastes like aftershave but in a good way that is quite lovely. The funniest ale was one from Senoia, Georgia called Turtle head ale. It was based on an episode of Walking Dead where a character ate a tortoise head. It wasn't bad at all. I drink everywhere I go. I'm a fuckin drunk. But contained to times when it does not interfere with work and supporting family. Or driving. Otherwise I'm a connoisseur of shitface.

    Ooooo and Capital City Ale but you can only get that one place. Guess where.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tocky View Post
    I like Chimay. I hear they are undergoing a supply problem of not enough Trappist monks to make it and who can blame them? Who the fuck wants to forgo an actual life in favor of religious bullshit?
    If they are dead set on only employing actual monks for their brewery, that might cause supply problems. Monks are getting older, and the influx of new monks is slow. However, larger abbey-based breweries like Leffe, Affligem and La Trappe treat their companies like a commercial enterprise where you don't have to be a monk to work at the brewery. My guess is they don't even require their employees to be religious. At the supermarkets I go to their beers are always in stock. But yeah, if for some reason you require that only monks can brew your beer, that might become more and more problematic in the future since their numbers are dwindling.

    And with that, I've already named some of the beers I like, like Leffe Blond and Tripel, and Affligem Double. I also like Gouden Carolus, they have a strong whiskey infused beer that's great. Also La Chouffe and Westmalle beers, good stuff. As you can tell I have a preference for abbey beers, like blondes, doubles, triples, quadruples. I know IPAs are big nowadays but I'm not that much of a fan, I don't really like the bitter taste many of them have.

    EDIT: I've checked, and Leffe has been taken over by Anhauser Busch (and anyone can work there), and with La Trappe the brewing still happens 'under supervision and responsibility' of the monks, that implies to me that the actual day-to-day work of brewing the beer is not done by monks anymore.
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    Tocky

    I like Chimay.
    I'll have to buy some. I remember drinking Chimay about thirty years ago and don't really remember what it's like.


    If they are dead set on only employing actual monks for their brewery, that might cause supply problems. Monks are getting older, and the influx of new monks is slow. However, larger abbey-based breweries like Leffe, Affligem and La Trappe treat their companies like a commercial enterprise where you don't have to be a monk to work at the brewery. My guess is they don't even require their employees to be religious.
    Somehow as I get older I feel like brewing beer at a abbey seems like a great lifestyle ... Run around in dark robes all day, sample ales, eat cheese, garden, read and not talk to people. I used to brew homebrew for about ten years so I have a basic understanding of the brewing process albeit on a five gallon scale.

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    This little barley wine gem from J.W. Lees is pretty expensive at $9.99 USD but is pretty amazing to sip.

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    that looks nice, 10.5 abv damn. That shit can get you fucked up.

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    The ABV may be high but a 9.3 oz. bottle at $9.99 isn't really a chugging kind of beer. It's more of a slow sipping kind like a good single malt scotch whisky.

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    Does anyone in here drink anymore?

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    Sitting at the cafe right now, drinking an ice coffee, listening to some smooth bossa nova and posting here.

    I honestly can't remember the last time I drank alcohol, come to think of it. Having covid-related surprise heart trouble right at the start of 2020 I think played a big role, because I didn't know what was safe and what wasn't, nobody did!, so I was extra paranoid. And once you're off the stuff, it's actually kind of hard to just start up again, I mean even having the occassions to drink any more.

    My favorite thing to drink a few years ago was black umeshu, which I think is umeshu inflused with brown sugar and which you could mix with coffee or milk or cream pretty well, but it mysteriously disappeared from the market, it's been impossible to find, and I never did find a good replacement that checked all of its boxes. I guess it works like Kahlúa or liquors like it, but it's its own thing.

    ...

    Edit: People here can be fanatical about scotch whisky. E.g., Suntory bought Jim Beam. Reminds me that I think Yamaha bought Gretsch guitars; similar kind of vibe. There are these aficianodo fetishes Japanese salarymen pick up where people are stupidly obsessive about very particular brands and will drop obscene amounts of money for, e..g, in this case a single bottle, while glibly ignorant of the underlying history or culture of the thing, but I guess that's another discussion.

    Speaking of which though, drinking culture is a really special thing here. It's kind of built into the work culture, because it has a strict formality to it. So the way people in an organization can talk openly with each other is to have regular mandated drinking parties where it's important you at least act like you're getting stupid drunk because it gives you plausible deniability for saying what needs to be said without being responsible for it. That's just one layer in a bigger story though. Long before you're at that stage, you've been going to nomihodai in your booths with your band, your kohais and sempais following these almost religious-like social rituals, which morphs into the work culture.

    It's so different from how I understood the role of drinking, I kind of never understood or got into what was going on or why.
    In the West, I think the importance of drinking is you disarm yourself with your mates. There's some kind of trust thing going on, like I can trust the guy I regularly go out drinking with. There is a culture of expat drinking all over Asia too (and I imagine any expat community), but the issue there is that Japan has a really high expat turnover rate, and one can only go through all the initiation rites so many times...

    I don't know if I have a point. Drinking is really wrapped up with culture in a way I wouldn't have predicted back when it was just the thing we did on weekends without thinking about it much.
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    Is there a problem with alcoholism in Japan like there is in Western countries? I mean like large amounts of medical care is due to alcohol related issues, diabetes, kidney and liver problems, mental health.

    and also, is there any other kind of bossa nova but smooth.

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    In a past life I worked as a bartender for a couple of months in one of Kyoto's pubs, it was interesting. As dema said, lots of salarymen willing to splurge on expensive and frankly not very interesting whiskies just for the brand, but also quite a few connaisseurs drinking the nice stuff. The latter were often coming as couples or as small groups of friends, the former as colleagues.

    It was a long time ago but I would definitely say that there is a drinking problem. Having regular, work-sanctioned binge-drinking parties enables the habit to easily turn into an addiction, and you see a lot of older men (I would suspect women too but they are not as visible) just incapable of not having their daily drink. Single sake doses ("one cup") are readily available in convenience stores for the middle-aged reasonable alcoholic, light or strong alcopops (chuhai and highballs) for younger people and a wide selection of nice 16% ABV sakes or liquor for the hardcore drinkers.

    A difference with my experience back home in France: it seemed that Japanese people were very good at hiding that they had a problem. I guess the habit itself plus the safety net of doing it mainly within formalized events build a natural skill for managing hangovers and not breaking out into violence although I never knew what was going on inside people's homes.
    And during my time there, I never saw a single piece of alcohol education, harm reduction campaigns or alcoholism awareness. But then again I wasn't speaking Japanese fluently. dema, how is it these days?

    The other side of the coin is that alcohol consumption has been systematized into a very cathartic, almost healthy way to deal with stress for Japanese people, moreso than anywhere else I've seen, at least that's how it felt. And because it is done so openly, drinking is very fun, you always find the greatest places and people. I drank a lot in Japan...

    As for what I'm drinking now, since I moved to Sweden I reduced my consumption of beer and wine a lot simply because I can't be arsed to go to the state monopoly store to regularly check on beers or get a bottle of wine. I guess the monopoly is working on me as intended then, although I could say quite a bit about the drinking culture in Sweden.

    On the other hand, I have been a moderate whisky amateur most of my life so I will regularly order a few bottles. Right now I'm finishing a bottle of Ailsa Bay as well as last year's Distillers' Edition of Lagavulin, and enjoying a Glenallachie 15 quite a bit. Really looking forward to the next bottle: a cask strength 17yo Tobermory matured in Oloroso casks. I usually love the output of the Tobermory distillery, their Ledaig (peated) are especially great, comparable in some ways to Islay peated whiskies yet absolutely distinct.
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  12. #12
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    Interesting perspectives on drinking. I was thinking that a lot of people in here that have been around a long time probably don't drink like they may have twenty years ago. I know I don't.

    The drinking culture in Asia is pretty wild. I don't think that it has changed much since I first visited various East Asian countries in the early 1990s. I recall that there was hardly any place to drink in Dubai in 1991, which created a unique problem when we Navy sailors pulled into port just after Desert Storm ended. There was a few hotels where you could buy and drink alcohol and a place out in the middle of nowhere that was established originally for the British navy and civilian sailors to hang out and drink without getting tossed into jail. That small place was overrun by the US Navy with multiple battle groups in port at the same time. Those were wild times and our battle group got kicked out of Dubai at one point and asked not to return by the U.A.E. government, but they eventually let us come back. I discovered in Dubai that there was something other than Budweiser in the world and my life was changed forever. In fact it was in Dubai at that British establishment that I became a beer snob.

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